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margym0o
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posted January 21, 2016 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm asking because my co-worker had divorced from her husband a couple years ago when her children were small, only 2 and 4 years old I think and she said it was because it became unbearable to live with him. She said it was like a switch went off when the children came along because he all of a sudden viewed her as a real "mother" in every sense of the word and she became responsible for all of the household duties and child care while he took a backseat, which was overwhelming for her. She thought he was going to be a very hands-on parent but she was wrong. Ultimately his mistreatment of her caused her to initiate the divorce (not him) and it was a very messy process. He continues to be very controlling and dominating and acts manipulatively "in the best interest of the children" but makes himself look like a fool in the process. She says his mental state has seemed to deteriorate in the time since the divorce as he talks and act erratically to her and in front of the lawyers when he feels backed into a corner.

I should note that his now (older) girlfriend and his mother have been HUGE influences and helpers in his life and he does not solely care for the children when they're with him, because he never seemed fully capable of doing so.

He is a quadruple Cancer - Sun, Moon, Venus and Mars.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted January 22, 2016 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are two types of Cancer energies that I have come to know.

The first type is the type that expects to be taken care of:Preferring the motherly treatment to be transferred to their partners(friends or otherwise) in every sense of the word i.e. Cook, Clean, Rub my back, Hold me when I cry, Wash my clothes and generally "baby" me.

Then there is the 2nd type of Cancer.

Those that look for a person to care for and be the breadwinner i.e. big money-savers, anxious about the future, men are very macho sometimes even chauvinistic/ women very domineering, caring but defensive, ambitious, troubled relationship with immediate family(because they insist on handling the reigns).

Now this guy sounds more like the 1st. And perhaps even competing with his own children for affection and parental attention?

What Sun/Moon is the ex wife?

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Valentine
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posted January 22, 2016 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex-husband was the first type,

As a father he was indifferent.

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PixieJane
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posted January 22, 2016 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Cancer man I was close to wasn't like that. Quite the opposite. I don't mind devoted, but I felt his wife (much like a previous wife of his, but I didn't know him then) took him for granted and was supremely selfish, but he went along with it. He has been involved with kids whether they were his own or became his by marriage.

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charlie
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posted January 22, 2016 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Cancer woman (Cap Moon) No kids. I want to be the bread winner and I can be extremely dominant! I do want children but there's no way in hell they will change my pursuits in life!! And now people will say "just wait and see....everything will change..." but I know myself and nothing will change.

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posted January 22, 2016 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Southern Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From personal experiences, I've found that Cancer women carry that "go-getter" cardinal energy in family & personal relationships way more than Cancer men in my life.

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posted January 22, 2016 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES, I am a Cancer Moon and it really intensified when I had children lol

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margym0o
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posted January 22, 2016 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
There are two types of Cancer energies that I have come to know.

The first type is the type that expects to be taken care of:Preferring the motherly treatment to be transferred to their partners(friends or otherwise) in every sense of the word i.e. Cook, Clean, Rub my back, Hold me when I cry, Wash my clothes and generally "baby" me.

Then there is the 2nd type of Cancer.

Those that look for a person to care for and be the breadwinner i.e. big money-savers, anxious about the future, men are very macho sometimes even chauvinistic/ women very domineering, caring but defensive, ambitious, troubled relationship with immediate family(because they insist on handling the reigns).

Now this guy sounds more like the 1st. And perhaps even competing with his own children for affection and parental attention?

What Sun/Moon is the ex wife?


He definitely sounds like the first but also a bit of the second. He is a cargo airline pilot and is gone for periods of time every month so maybe he felt entitled when he returned home? It's hard to say. He is very co-dependent on his mother though and always has been. His current girlfriend is a few years older and has grown children of her own so I feel she is probably the more "mature" one of their relationship.

My co-worker is a Gemini Sun/Sag Moon/Cancer Venus/Aries Mars. I think her Sun/Moon combo definitely prompted her to "break free" from the situation.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted January 22, 2016 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by margym0o:
He definitely sounds like the first but also a bit of the second. He is a cargo airline pilot and is gone for periods of time every month so maybe he felt entitled when he returned home? It's hard to say. He is very co-dependent on his mother though and always has been. His current girlfriend is a few years older and has grown children of her own so I feel she is probably the more "mature" one of their relationship.

My co-worker is a Gemini Sun/Sag Moon/Cancer Venus/Aries Mars. I think her Sun/Moon combo definitely prompted her to "break free" from the situation.


I think he may have stifled her. That Sag Moon needs to grow in a relationship. And I don't think that much was possible in the one that she was in

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DualGem
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posted January 23, 2016 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very Interesting and unique question.
I say this because I'm the child of two Cancer parents.

Although my dad is a late June born and has some Gemini in his chart.

While my Mom is a Mid July born with some leo aspects, (off topic thats why Leo suns with Venus in Cancer tend to remind me of my mom).

What happens is my mom ends up being the more cardinal of the two and the more dynamic one.

My dad on the other hand would rather watch movies and do nothing from time to time.

But he's no dummy he's aware and knows how to manipulate my mom into accepting his behavior, Gemini moons tend to be manipulative in that way.

My mom is protective of me and sometimes controlling, the concept of "mother knows best" presides greatly with her.

The only problem is sometimes controlling things falls back on you and you don't have the desired outcome.

She pretty much always has the idea that I should work in the public sector because she assumed it was a secured job.

I would always explain to her thats not always true epically when a country is in debt, public sector employees are first to go.

Its even worst for IT and tech professionals because skills are important either you learn new skills or work on projects that have you learning new things, the jobs she wanted me to do never had that.

So for years, it was always that way.

But now she realizes I had better goals and ambitions. I realize that her thinking was I will take care of my kids by making them do a job that I think is secure and best, thats how I show I love them.

Well, she's finally let me peruse what I really want.

Heres what I can say about there relationship.

CONS:
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My Dad is used to my Mom taking care of him and he manipulates my mom if he doesn't get his way (Gemini Moon).

My Mom blocks my dad of what he wants because she's the one that runs the finances.

Pros:
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Although there codependent on each other they complement each other because they have what the other lacks.

In the bigger scheme of things I think indirectly I keep them together because I'm not exactly pleased with both of them
and they always come together when that happens.

The other thing is my Mom, a typical Cancer who loves and protects her children sees some of the traits I have my dad does, remember he has some Gemini aspects so It works that way to. She looks at me and then looks at her husband.

I'm glad you asked this question margym0o because I never really put much thought into it.

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Gemini Sun,
Capricorn Rising
Aries Moon
Gemini Mercury
Venus Taurus
Mars Cancer

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hypatia238
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posted January 23, 2016 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My cancer male clients are very involved parents. Dedicated to not repeating the mistakes their parents made and very committed to doing things better with their own kids and offering them a better life.

They are leaders of their home, problem solvers, disciplinarians, stern, assertive, consistent, they are good dads. I admire them, they are the sort of man you want to have kids with bc they will be very involved and an equal partner in raising their children.

They can be emotional leading to an explosive temper at times. I feel this happens if they don't feel respected and are not heard and taken seriously.

Both cancer males I have in mind are very resilient, resourceful, independent, leaders and problem solvers.

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