posted February 11, 2016 03:04 PM            

Also I noticed that I can tune in and empathically feel there emotions there thoughts and what there about to say and feel the manipulation. It's very strange...does anyone else tune in easily to heavy scorpio or pluto in the individuls natal? I can sense strong intense emotions from them, don't know if they project there aura onto everybody but since im clairvoyant myself I can see there emotions.

posted February 11, 2016 03:11 PM            

He's a scorpio with a 4 planet and N.Node stellium that spans the 10/11th house.

Pluto in the the 9th conjunct the Midhaven.

posted February 11, 2016 04:00 PM            

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Originally posted by carm76:
You described my husband perfectly.

He's a scorpio with a 4 planet and N.Node stellium that spans the 10/11th house.

Pluto in the the 9th conjunct the Midhaven.

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posted February 11, 2016 04:19 PM            

I did know a Scorp stellium (Libra sun and female) who shared as much as she pried.

My mom is a Scorpio sun, Merc, Venus, and Neptune and 8H Jupiter but she's more interested in herself than in others. She also loves attention, even if it's infamy, and she will brag (including about things most people would keep secret). It could be all the Leo in her chart (and Gemini moon). (ETA: and she was born in the year of the Tiger.)

I was close to another Scorpio sun female (did autopsies for a living!), but I can't recall her chart (I know she had a lot of air and some fire to it) and she was both interested in others and also shared, though she was more likely to shared what she learned rather than how she learned it. And now that I think about it, she didn't say much to me about herself until she decided she trusted me.

The other 2 Scorpio suns I was fairly close to were both secretive. I don't know anything other than their sun. One Scorpio male was like a big brother to me, and I believe he told me more than he did most people, but it still wasn't a lot (it should be noted he was a criminal so he had plenty to hide, but he was an honorable one and I believe I was right to trust him more than most others in society, and I could certainly count on him more for protection than I could the cops--though at the time I was a 15-year-old runaway and thus a criminal myself, even just by being away from home and school, let alone how I survived in a world with little mercy and no way for me to legally gain welfare or a job). The other, a Scorpio woman repaid some anonymous kindness (I believe she liked that I was anonymous about it, that I wasn't trying to put her in my debt, it helped her trust me, but she knew it was me--though I also didn't want her to take me for a sucker that she could milk, either, so there was concern for myself as well as her), but she never told me that much. I certainly shared more about me and my life with her (and she also learned quite a bit from observation) but she didn't pry too much.

posted February 11, 2016 05:42 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
[b]My current partner (female) has Scorpio Venus, Mars, and Jupiter, and also a 8H Cap Mercury (which can make her methodical in her intense curiosity). This fits her. She pried a lot, even got me drunk to get me to open up more. I was surprised how much she knew about me even before I knew her name because she observed me at the fitness center we both belonged to (we didn't talk then), and I do hope that the things she picked up weren't as obvious to most others there!

I did know a Scorp stellium (Libra sun and female) who shared as much as she pried.

My mom is a Scorpio sun, Merc, Venus, and Neptune and 8H Jupiter but she's more interested in herself than in others. She also loves attention, even if it's infamy, and she will brag (including about things most people would keep secret). It could be all the Leo in her chart (and Gemini moon). (ETA: and she was born in the year of the Tiger.)

I was close to another Scorpio sun female (did autopsies for a living!), but I can't recall her chart (I know she had a lot of air and some fire to it) and she was both interested in others and also shared, though she was more likely to shared what she learned rather than how she learned it. And now that I think about it, she didn't say much to me about herself until she decided she trusted me.

The other 2 Scorpio suns I was fairly close to were both secretive. I don't know anything other than their sun. One Scorpio male was like a big brother to me, and I believe he told me more than he did most people, but it still wasn't a lot (it should be noted he was a criminal so he had plenty to hide, but he was an honorable one and I believe I was right to trust him more than most others in society, and I could certainly count on him more for protection than I could the cops--though at the time I was a 15-year-old runaway and thus a criminal myself, even just by being away from home and school, let alone how I survived in a world with little mercy and no way for me to legally gain welfare or a job). The other, a Scorpio woman repaid some anonymous kindness (I believe she liked that I was anonymous about it, that I wasn't trying to put her in my debt, it helped her trust me, but she knew it was me--though I also didn't want her to take me for a sucker that she could milk, either, so there was concern for myself as well as her), but she never told me that much. I certainly shared more about me and my life with her (and she also learned quite a bit from observation) but she didn't pry too much.

ETA: added in gender (save for Mom which is too obvious) in case you think it matters. My current partner and I are in a lesbian relationship now, in case that matters.[/B]

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thank you so much for sharing your experience with scoprio both genders PixieJane! im also with a lesbian as well, she has a venus in taurus in the 8th house along with her jupiter in taurus in the 8th house with pluto in scoprio R.

and about the your friend the one that did auptopsies yes TRUST is a HUGE one for a scorpio HUGE omg....this scoprio guy told me "im telling you all of my personal things because i trust you" **with his eyes looking straight at me dead in the eye**. LOL. its crazy and my best childhood friend she's got a triple scoprio stellium in the 12th/11th house and she is the same way, trust is super important to her, she doesnt trust anyone.

posted February 12, 2016 11:09 AM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:
It's very strange...does anyone else tune in easily to heavy scorpio or pluto in the individuls natal? I can sense strong intense emotions from them, don't know if they project there aura onto everybody but since im clairvoyant myself I can see there emotions.

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I haven't spent any time at all with any Scorpio men with Pluto in Scorpio. I think I've never met one...this is out of my generation. (Libra Pluto)

Perhaps I've known Scorpio men with 8H Pluto.

The only Scorpio man I interacted with "romantically" did have a really strong vibe, he exuded desire, and asked me out repeatedly, yet I guess he either lied to cover up his feelings, or didn't connect his vibes with how he wanted to live, because he made it clear to me that he wasn't interested in an exclusive relationship with me. Even though he was stalking me and the sexual tension between us was thick enough to cut with a knife.

I think he liked me because I just listened. It was a total outpouring by him, of every little thing on his mind, which my Pisces moon just absorbed without question or judgment. Him showing up at my work (as a writing tutor, so I had an office) was more like showing up for a therapy session, and he treated it like that. He'd sit on the sofa across from my desk, and tell me everything...including how he felt about other women....and on that point, I had to suspect he was either lying or exaggerating just to make it a game between us.

If so, it backfired, because that is the only reason I never dated him.

Oh and he showed up at my work many, many times. Even after he graduated, he'd drive over an hour to come see me at work. More than once.

posted February 12, 2016 03:58 PM            

OP,
Well, there are two extremes with them. They either tell you everything, with little to no prompting, or have you butting your head against the wall by telling you absolutely nothing. Also, if they don't trust you they have no qualms about lying to you either - so, there's that.

My ex was a Scorp stellium. And there, the confiding in each other was more or less mutual. But I was the less 'open' one, at least until the very end (unfortunately).

My current -something-, I wouldn't say love interest exactly, is also a Scorp. He's much older, has been through a lot. But since he's started talking to me - all sorts of things started surfacing.
**Editing out example**

So, I guess, to sum it up. They have two modes:
Confession-mode and Clam-up mode
The level of emotional honesty in Confession-mode is just . You can't help but feel one with them.

posted February 13, 2016 01:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
angel4845, what are your placements btw?

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thank you Elysia and Faith for your response. i appreciate you giving me both of your experience on those who have heavy scorpio and/or plutonian aspects.

this is my natal chart.

why did you need it by the way? just curious

posted February 13, 2016 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
@Faith: I think it was very soothing for him to be around you. But, he couldn't get a handle on his feelings well enough to stop playing games.

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This is so on point, I can relate. Also you said it depends on the way they see you as and I think that can be one of the biggest mysteries with strong Scorpio vibes men...

posted February 13, 2016 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
@Faith: I think it was very soothing for him to be around you. But, he couldn't get a handle on his feelings well enough to stop playing games.

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Thank you, Elysia! Well he was Sag Venus like me...

And I guess he was truly interested in these other women, and wanted a sounding board to discuss his issues with them. Some were ex-girlfriends he still loved...he wanted someone to listen to how amazing they were. And I would do that. But I thought he was telling me, at the same time, "If we go out, it's just a fling." Of course, that feeling lessened as he pursued me for...I think all four years I was at college, even after he graduated (two years ahead.)

And how odd. You know he realized I didn't have a car...and offered to give me his car. I said above that I listened to him without judgment, but some stuff really felt like lies. Give me his car??? I just laughed about this to one of our mutual friends...it probably got back to him, but didn't deter him from still coming to see me.

Years later I was talking to someone from his town, and asked her if she knew him. It was kind of a Mr. Darcy moment (!!!) when she told me his family was locally famous and super wealthy. She said he lives in an enormous mansion on some hill that overlooks the town.

Well cr*p, I should have taken the car then!!! LOL Moreover, maybe I should have taken *the guy* because that means he wasn't lying about the car after all (???) In fact many of his fantastical stories actually looked very believable in hindsight, after I realized he was wealthy. But, aw, he never told me. Secretive Scorpio bast*rd!

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Originally posted by Elysia:
My ex was a Scorp stellium. And there, the confiding in each other was more or less mutual. But I was the less 'open' one, at least until the very end (unfortunately).

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Oh no, I hope your opening up didn't spell doom...

But I can relate, if it did. Life sucks sometimes. :-/

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Originally posted by Elysia:
So, I guess, to sum it up. They have two modes:
Confession-mode and Clam-up mode
The level of emotional honesty in Confession-mode is just You can't help but feel one with them.

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Yes...true!

That last part applies to my Scorpio brother. If he tells me exactly what's on his mind, even if it's hard to stomach, he is so vivid and expressive, how could I not see it his way?

I find a lot of Scorpios gifted with language, because when they want to be clear, they mean to be perfectly CLEAR.

posted February 13, 2016 11:28 PM            

The Darcy moment: Man, you absolutely should have taken him up on his offer! The secretive Scorpio bast**d!

Sag venus, eh? Maybe he was trying to impress you with his romantic history. O.o
And he pursued you for so long - he was really into you. The two of you might've really hit it off.
Aargh. #MissedConnections. >_<
Have you spoken to him since?

Btw, fun fact: My Scorp ex had a Sag moon. And the current one has a Sag mars. What is it about Scorpios with Sag placements? I seem to really love them. They're so...bouncy. With a real sexy sense of humour. Normally, Scorps would be called anything but naïve. However, the Sag elements add a touch of innocence to the mix.

Did you notice this with your Sag venus fella?

It's a strange combination to watch in action, that's probably what makes it so interesting. Scorps with Sag placements become sort of like Sag-on-steriods. With staying power.

This conversation reminds me of Randy Pausch, again. (I think we'd talked about him once before, while discussing teachers). He had both moon and venus in Sag. That's a lot to handle, though!

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Originally posted by Faith:

I find a lot of Scorpios gifted with language, because when they want to be clear, they mean to be perfectly CLEAR.

And of course that applies to you and your Scorpio energy. Love it, love it.

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posted February 14, 2016 12:27 AM            

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This conversation reminds me of Randy Pausch, again. (I think we'd talked about him once before, while discussing teachers). He had both moon and venus in Sag. That's a lot to handle, though!

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I loved The Last Lecture, but I don't remember talking to you about it before. "My" Scorpio's birthday is the day after Pausch's, I think? Can't remember if it's the 24th or 26th.

I know what you mean about Pausch...watching him, he just seemed too full of life to survive in this boring, red-taped world.

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However, the Sag elements add a touch of innocence to the mix.
Did you notice this with your Sag venus fella?

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Yes, he was bouncy, good word! I think Sag/Scorpio people are some of the most versatile & fascinating. Like, "my" Scorpio was usually smiling and laughing, but when he concentrated and got to work it was ALL Scorpio, super focused (Mercury in Scorpio.)

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Have you spoken to him since?

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No...

I googled him several years ago and learned he was named Professor of the Year at a certain college. Not surprised, but just another moment of kicking myself, like maybe I should have tried harder to make that work? It would have been fun, being around schools (great for Sag Venus). I just googled him again and now he's a professor at a large university.

Whatever...he would have dumped me looooooong before we got to that point. Just saved myself some heartbreak is all.

Aaaand my husband is not too shabby either

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on off days, garbled messages everywhere.

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I never see anything of the sort...but I like garbled messages, too. Like a collage of sounds you know?

Thanks for letting me monopolize your attention everywhere I encounter you. LOL Gotta break that habit soon, I feel spoiled.

posted February 14, 2016 03:13 AM            

Aww yes.. didn't mean to imply the hubby ain't great.

I subscribe to Hugh Everett's theory of parallel universes - each a separate 'reality' co-existing with one's own (this universe). So, it's interesting to imagine the possibilities - in this case, I was thinking that in one of the universes, you might be with him.

P.S. Nice try, Faith You ain't gettin' rid of me that easily. Yeah I do tend to get carried away focusing on just one person (you ). I enjoy it, but end up derailing people's threads.

@angel,
I asked because of your OP - in which you talked about picking up their emotional manipulations and such. Also, wanted to see the chart in general. I see you have a lovely moon-pallas trine, which functions almost like sun-pallas aspects, but more instinctive! Hence, you *feel* what they're projecting.

posted February 14, 2016 03:26 AM            

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Originally posted by MsAlohaPanda:
One of my closest friends is a Scorpio with also mars & pluto conjunct and it's the exact same thing. They want/need to know all of your most intimate secrets/thoughts/feeling but when it comes to them it's as though the conversation has been cut all of a sudden. It can get really annoying, lol. She is just not big on sharing, I mean she does but it definitely does not come easy to her as well as self reflecting etc.

This is so on point, I can relate. Also you said it depends on the way they see you as and I think that can be one of the biggest mysteries with strong Scorpio vibes men...

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I'm glad you can relate! What are your major placements?

posted February 14, 2016 03:28 AM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:

Also I noticed that I can tune in and empathically feel there emotions there thoughts and what there about to say and feel the manipulation. It's very strange...does anyone else tune in easily to heavy scorpio or pluto in the individuls natal? I can sense strong intense emotions from them, don't know if they project there aura onto everybody but since im clairvoyant myself I can see there emotions.

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posted February 14, 2016 08:59 AM            

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Aww yes.. didn't mean to imply the hubby ain't great.

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I didn't mean to imply that you implied that.

Gotta remember that name, Hugh Everett. I don't know him. (Is he single?....)

Just kidding! Sag Venus humor.

'Til we derail again ~

posted February 14, 2016 09:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
@Elysia

I didn't mean to imply that you implied that.

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Oh goody! *phew*, was worried for a minute there

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Originally posted by Faith:

Gotta remember that name, Hugh Everett. I don't know him. (Is he single?....)

Just kidding! Sag Venus humor.

'Til we derail again ~

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His theory had a lot more to do with quantum mechanics than romance. But you know Libras, gotta find a romantic angle to everything. I use the theory pretty much for everything except the original purpose.

You can find him here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Everett_III
, JIC.
(Dunno why href doesn't work here... )