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missblyss
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posted February 13, 2016 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey

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posted February 13, 2016 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, are there any signs that he WOULD or could turn these things around and live a legitimate life? I can be a bit gullible so I sometimes believe him

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posted February 13, 2016 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jupiter is big in lack of conscience. Look at all those Jupiter aspects.

It is hard to read when it is so big lol

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posted February 13, 2016 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really? I thought Jupiter was like good luck and really nice qualities, but I study Vedic more. Sorry about the size, I'm posting from my phone!

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posted February 13, 2016 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars retrograde. Repressed aggression that finally came out?

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posted February 13, 2016 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by missblyss:
Really? I thought Jupiter was like good luck and really nice qualities, but I study Vedic more. Sorry about the size, I'm posting from my phone!

You may already know this, but in Western astrology, Jupiter rules morals and beliefs.

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posted February 13, 2016 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Mars retrograde. Repressed aggression that finally came out?

Definitely repressed anger, although he doesn't seem to be able to repress it very long. He perceives everyone as his enemy or secret enemy and also feels like divinely justified in carrying out his evil plans... Like he is some divine being with the right to kill, but at the same time he also is impulsive( especially while drinking) and prone to that type of fight as well. Both premeditated violence and impulsive violence

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posted February 14, 2016 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok hopefully it's showing up smaller now!

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posted February 14, 2016 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
You may already know this, but in Western astrology, Jupiter rules morals and beliefs.

Yes I would think that lots of Jupiter aspects would mean someone who was very moral?

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posted February 14, 2016 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrology tends to be like coins, they have a heads and tails, a good way and toxic way to manifest. For example, Scorpios can be the scorpion mired in misery and spreading it to others, or they can be the eagle that flies above it all and help others to rise above their own pain (that is they can be healers or attackers, they can also be criminal masterminds and the detectives that know best how to foil said masterminds). Pisces can get lost in their dreams, or they can turn their dreams into reality. Leos can inspire or they can bully depending on how evolved their energy is (among other things).

If the chart shows that morals are important, then the question is, are they important to uphold, or important to overcome? Which side of the coin comes up? And interesting enough, you say he considers himself like a divine being justified in what he does. Well morality and such really is subjective, and people have been murdering and such in the name of morals and justice for the entire recorded history of our species (many evil people felt really righteous in being so, the most horrific bit is that sometimes people are driven to be extremely cruel and evil--that is, the inflicting of suffering, oppression, and worse--because their own conscience demands such evil in the name of good, and they feel guilty if they're NOT evil!).

On top of that, Jupiter/Zeus really could be a ******* in the name of justice as well. (I loved Thor's line to Zeus in ERBOH in "How can anyone worship anyone as abusive as Zeus is, you're ruthless to humans, your crew is like the clash of the douches.") What you describe of him sounds like he's manifesting the nasty side of Jupiter/Zeus. If he could throw lightning bolts then that's what he would do, but since he's just a mere mortal like the rest of us he has to improvise.

And yeah, you're being really gullible if you believe him in that he's changed. If you're like so many people then you'll have to learn that the hard way.

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posted February 14, 2016 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by missblyss:
This is a chart of a man I know who I have witnessed attempting to plan a poisoning of someone; I do know that it was unsucceful, but he did do everything he could to try to make it work- detailed planning, aliby, etc. This man has sold meth to high school kids, fights, and intended to kill people! He CLAIMS to have turned things around, I don't know if it's true or if I can trust him based on his past..: and these are only the things I know he's done!

He is also very charming and good at getting people to believe he's done no wrong, maybe a sociopath, I'm
Not sure. He could convince a scientist that the sky was purple.


Wow well his Mars rules his chart and is quite busy!!!

He has Mars:
Square Jupiter
Sesquisquare Pluto
Opposite Uranus
Inconjunct Intercepted Mercury

What is his Nessus doing in his chart? curious...

But based on all that action with his mars he could be prone to holding grudges, vengefulness, poor anger management, acting out impulses...

Can he change? I am gullible too and belief people are innately good and can always turn it around so...

His mercury is intercepted so after his first saturn return he may become more conscientious and he should be able to make better decisions, his judgement should improve so it may be that as he matures he will get a better handle on his mars and he actually grows out of this and all these actions were result of immaturity and poor coping skill.

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