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CapriciousCapricorn
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posted February 16, 2016 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could you please explain and compare the two. Thanks

I am going through Mars conjunct natal Saturn transit. Some kind of stalemate...NOT nice Mars is moving Very slowly so it's in effect for like..half a year! It actually feels like Saturn conjunct Mars..weird

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posted February 16, 2016 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah no, sorry, mistake, not half a year! Quite short actually, I also have Saturn conjunct natal Mercury transit going on so that one is really long-lasting, not this one.

Anyways, you reckon Mars/Saturn is a shorter version of Saturn/Mars?

I make plans and they all get delayed, I can't get what I want and thought I could get. Make something happen? Again no. So frustrating!

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posted February 16, 2016 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And another thing.

Mars is ruler of my 7th house
Saturn is ruler of my 4th house

Ruler of 7th conjunct ruler of 4th then. Right? What does it mean? Anybody reads their transits like that?

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posted February 16, 2016 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump, i also want to know in general how is different other than the obvious: saturn transit to mars is way longer than mars transit to saturn...

i have the impression that the difference is the planet transiting the one putting its imprint in the other.. when mars transit a planet is calling bringing willing to do something, drive, energy, rage, anger, action. when contacting saturn it may fight structures, go in coflict with authorities or in a positive look use the energy to organize and create structure. is the transit soft or hard?

when saturn is transiting mars, it would limit the mars energy, it would give it more focus. sometimes throgh limitations, but these limitations are needed for teh individual to focus. one way to work with this transit is asking yourself, what is not needed, where can i focus my energy...

well, while I am writing it seems to me that both becomes the same.. so, if someone has clarity over the differene, let's hear it

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posted February 16, 2016 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nordicsoul:

well, while I am writing it seems to me that both becomes the same.. so, if someone has clarity over the differene, let's hear it

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posted February 17, 2016 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 20, 2016 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anybody knows what's going on with Mars? Why is it moving so slowly, slower than usual? Way slooower. Just checked. Yes, it is going to take 6 months to move away from my Saturn. Grrr

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posted February 21, 2016 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Piscean Tigress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!

I have this conjunction natally, and I can tell you that you want to take action , but deep inside you can't do it; itīs like a car with the breaks on...

Beware with your temper!! you can keep things and suddenly explote for nothing... You could be sometimes very cold (even cruel) with your words when you are angry...

But not all is that bad; you have in this transit enough strength to get your goals, you are able to work really hard and constantly...

So use your patience in every moment, so you can lead this transit in the best way.

You can experience delays in 4th and 7th houses, so you have to ve very pacience to deal with it (relationships, family).

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posted February 22, 2016 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Piscean Tigress,

Thank you!

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posted February 24, 2016 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Anyways, you reckon Mars/Saturn is a shorter version of Saturn/Mars?

No. With the transit of Mars conjunct natal Saturn, you are best well-focused and purposeful in your actions. Delays, frustrations are coming from your own misgivings or inhibitions, or from those life structures you have subscribed to. These represent generally shorter or more trivial delays.

With the transit of Saturn conjunct natal Mars, there is a similar call to be focused in your actions, but you may have to navigate new limitations in your circumstances as part of your efforts. This is a longer learning process in which youthful or misdirected energies have to be retrained a bit, and give your aims more time to develop. There may be practical matters you'd not previously taken into consideration that need to be dealt with first.

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posted February 24, 2016 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And were you able to get your chart rectified satisfactorily?

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posted February 24, 2016 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And were you able to get your chart rectified satisfactorily?


Ah, yes but the keyword is 'satisfactorily'. I will only be able to check the accuracy of rectified birth time with something like marriage date (if and when it happens).

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posted February 24, 2016 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, you could always toss me your data through email and I could take a look at it. No obligation.

Are you saying you don't really have any life events with specific dates to work with?

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posted February 24, 2016 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your kind offer. No, I do have events, 1st marriage (I will soon have divorce date too), emigration date etc. When I said marriage, I meant potential 2nd marriage in the future that can be used to check if rectified time is good.

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posted February 25, 2016 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Thank you for your kind offer. No, I do have events, 1st marriage (I will soon have divorce date too), emigration date etc. When I said marriage, I meant potential 2nd marriage in the future that can be used to check if rectified time is good.

You're welcome I don't think that I've explicitly stated on my website that I give free, no obligation assessment of people's rectification case, so as to give them an idea of what would be involved, what might be required, how much time/info it might take.

Those events are excellent - emigaration (9th and 4th house matters), marriage or divorce (7th), since they contain tests of the important angles of the chart. Date of separation of residence from partner is also a good event to use, even better in my experience than 'final divorce' decree, because it tests the IC/4th.

It looks like Libra might be over the Asc of your chart, which could be narrowed down by taking the positions of planets through the cardinal signs (like Pluto) for those dates, and looking at the degree of other planets in other signs to add up their degree total to find an average. If you do that for each event, you can create a meta-average that could be useful, at least for further watching.

Good luck.

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