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UrsusBlack
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posted March 01, 2016 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UrsusBlack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 02, 2016 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 02, 2016 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer is known for being the "maternal" sign and 4th house is known for home and family. I would say certain Cancer aspects (including Mars) would indicate a need to have a nurturing nature and would probably want children. 4th house aspects are especially important as well, because they create home makers. I would say in men or women certain Capricorn aspects could call for wanting to take care of/protect children as well since it's the paternal sign and family is often caps 1st priority.

However, I would also say warm Leo would want children. Ruler of the 5th house, Leo has a natural affinity with children and certain aspects love kids. Leo moons especially are warm-hearted and love/want kids.

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I have Mars in Capricorn in fourth house and I have a strong desire to have and nurture kids and focus purely on them. I think motherhood is an extremely important job and in my opinion is sadly not valued as much today as it deserves to be. I think some people see motherhood as weak and unambitious but honing the next generation of people is far from weak! I hope that sheds a bit of light on the mentality of someone with Mars in Capricorn in fourth house (or at least my mentality).

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posted March 02, 2016 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bonsai:
I have Mars in Capricorn in fourth house and I have a strong desire to have and nurture kids and focus purely on them. I think motherhood is an extremely important job and in my opinion is sadly not valued as much today as it deserves to be. I think some people see motherhood as weak and unambitious but honing the next generation of people is far from weak! I hope that sheds a bit of light on the mentality of someone with Mars in Capricorn in fourth house (or at least my mentality).

I was about to jump in because I am the same (Cap Mars in 4th) and I second all this!

I have a very strong desire to nurture, to love and to give everything I have to my children (and future family). I am the complete opposite of a "self"-centered person and am very "other"-centered. Forget personal development and saving the world! My sun is conjunct my MC in the 10th so career is very important to me but my goals are clear and realistic and I would never take risks to jeopardize what I have accumulated so far because it would all be for them.

My 5th house is empty.

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Originally posted by margym0o:
Forget personal development and saving the world!

In a way you are saving the world when you raise kids who won't feel emotionally neglected.

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My 5th house is empty.


Same here.

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posted March 02, 2016 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UrsusBlack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 02, 2016 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by UrsusBlack:
I have no planets in Cancer or in my 4th house. I do, however, have a lot of aspects to the ruler of my 4th house, and to my moon as well. Would that maybe have something do with it?

Yep you hit the nail on the head, good aspects to moon and 4th house brings out that mothering cancer nature of the moon/4th house.

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posted March 02, 2016 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nyctea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I(use whole sign system cause it fits me better) have Chiron in the 4th, Pluto in the 5th, Mercury in the 5th and Jupiter ruling this house. Capricorn Sun. Leo ASC.

I don't want kids.

I'm 98% sure it's a Cancer sign thing. Someone close to me is a Cancer Sun and he wants to have a family like wow it's the number 1 thing in his life.
My mom is a Cancer ASC and Leo Moon, she loves babies and she says that the happiest days of her life was when my sister and i were born

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posted March 03, 2016 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nyctea:
I(use whole sign system cause it fits me better) have Chiron in the 4th, Pluto in the 5th, Mercury in the 5th and Jupiter ruling this house. Capricorn Sun. Leo ASC.

I don't want kids.

I'm 98% sure it's a Cancer sign thing. Someone close to me is a [b]Cancer Sun and he wants to have a family like wow it's the number 1 thing in his life.
My mom is a Cancer ASC and Leo Moon, she loves babies and she says that the happiest days of her life was when my sister and i were born [/B]


Leo moons will always have a tender spot for kids. Take it for me, the most lunar leo ever haha

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posted March 03, 2016 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would think that Sun/Moon/Mars or Pluto in 4th would have one "hone" in and focus on their private life.

Leo/Cancer on the cusp of the 4th would also count for this.

I have Leo on the cusp of the 4th. And I really am not so heavily focused in my private life as I "should" be. Nor do I really value children that much.

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posted March 03, 2016 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my Sun, Uranus and Venus in the fourth. I have held no desire to have children, yet I've always clinged onto the idea of having a significant other.

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posted March 04, 2016 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I have my Sun, Uranus and Venus in the fourth. I have held no desire to have children, yet I've always clinged onto the idea of having a significant other.

Are Sun/Uranus conjunct?

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posted March 04, 2016 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know a guy with a 7H Cappie Mars, and he likes kids, but chose not to have any himself.

As for me, I had to fight some temporary insanity in which I wanted to have kids, giving birth to them, but NOT have a partner. That's probably more to do with how I was raised, however, with my natal chart giving indirect reasons for that (packed 5H Sag, including Mars-Uranus, and I wonder if my 7H Aquarius combined with 5H Sag Uranus contributes to my not having traditional urges about these things). I was able to resist the urge.

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posted March 05, 2016 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by UrsusBlack:
There is nothing wrong with not wanting your private life be your entire world.

Still, why do you think that it isn't the case for you when astrologically speaking it "should" be?

Maybe it has to do with the aspects of your Sun and/or Moon?

Possibly Leo on the cusp of your 4th house results in you taking real pride in your physical home and not necessarily the people residing in it? Am I close? Haha


Lol. Unfortunately no.

I project a lot of ideas on the "perfect" home that I would like to have; tons of trees, open fields and a generally "open" environment where I let a lot of air in.

However, I have not worked consciously to its realization. Not in the "soul-full" sense of the word. Only dreamed it.

I get a lot of personal satisfaction from meeting new interesting and diverse people and exchanging ideas. That is where I think I "come alive" etc.

Its really confusing...

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I don't want to have kids

i'd feel trapped

Kids are a burden

Gemini fifth house cusp

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posted March 06, 2016 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gladspeelbkearns     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have:

Sun, Ceres and Mars conjunct in Cancer,

Moon in Capricorn (in the 4th house) well aspected by Venus and Saturn,

7th house ruler Neptune conjuct my IC

and Jupiter as the only entity in my 5th.

I don't have a deep desire to have kids of my own TBH as I doubt I'd be very good at dealing with the practicalities of parenthood. I do however have an interest in political issues directly related to children (for example wanting compulsory media studies in secondary schools and more help for parents), so I think astrological configurations that suggest wanting children can manifest in a different way.

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My sun is in the Cancer duad. That's the only Cancer thing I can find in my chart.

--Do fifth house signs (not planets) count?

Edit: Forgot to add, yes, I do want kids.

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