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Topic: Moon opp Venus sq Jupiter - craving for food
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 4641 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 03, 2016 06:42 AM
Hi there,a friend of mine has been overweight/chubby all her life. I am of the opinion that she simply eats too much but she blames her metabolism However, whenever i go out with her, she would eat huge amounts + i always have the feeling it's never enough. Often she would order several dishes and in case it's too much to eat the servings at one time, she would ask or take-away. Her mother rarely paid Attention to her when growing up and was a terrible cook My friends pattern: Moon in Aqua conj chiron in 1st house is opposite venus in Leo in 7 h and both receive square form her Jupiter in scorpio in 10h. I think this pattern loves to eat the pain away, doesn't it? IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 4641 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 03, 2016 06:48 AM
That's her natal IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 2817 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 03, 2016 07:16 AM
This is common for those who have the Moon in Aqua i.e feeling abandoned or ignored by the maternal figure.I have a friend with this Moon position and his life story is incredibly sad. And involved the mother "forgetting" him. With your friends Moon/Chiron conjunct, it could create a preoccupation with food, comfort, security, relationships with women etc. All things represented by the Moon. The opposition with Venus can create a love of food. But I have always felt that emotional issues perpetuate habitual patterns. And not the other way around. So I want to look at Moon/Venus from an emotional point. And to me, this aspect suggests a strong desire to be loved, cherished, told that one is beautiful and constantly feel good. The problem s that people with this opposition tend to work from the outside in instead of the inside out i.e if I get everyone to like me, than I will feel good. If I can get that car, then I will feel good. If I eat that cake, I will feel good. At the base of every addiction, there is possibly a "void" someone wants to fill. And whatever is used to fill that base is not necessarily the only option. But it is(relative to what that person knows)the best option that supplies the immediate gratification and/or RELIEF. So with me, it could be shopping. But with your friend ,it is food. What she can do is explore other ways to feel good.One that may offer a similar feeling of being gratified or feeling relief. But don't expect her to change overnight. And don't judge her either for not hitting the gym anytime soon. Habitual patterns take a while to undo. As they took time to build up. So going "cold turkey" on things that offer you comfort, is unlikely.
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 4641 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 03, 2016 07:35 AM
Thanks a lot, ariees i don't judge her, it's up to her how Slim/fat she is. Though she is trying to sell me that it's all up to her metabolism. Bullsh*t. I see the huge portions she eats Also, she never gets enough. When she buys grocery, she can't buy just 1 bottle of milk, it has to be 2 bottles- always. She is single, her kitchen is huge and every single Corner is filled with stuff as if she has to cook for a large Family. It's crazy! IP: Logged |
LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 655 From: New Jersey Registered: Jul 2014
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posted March 03, 2016 07:57 AM
Sounds like she's afraid of being without food..ordering extra portions, buying two bottles of milk instead of one. It probably stems from her mother being a poor cook. IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 4641 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 03, 2016 08:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by LaceyLeigh: Sounds like she's afraid of being without food..ordering extra portions, buying two bottles of milk instead of one. It probably stems from her mother being a poor cook.
On the one Hand she suffered from a mum with terrible cooking skills. but on the other Hand - her Dad was a butcher and owned his own shop. They had plenty of Food at home - they had au pair Girls /maids / employees who cooked on a daily Basis I stopped from offering cooking dinner for her & my other friends because of her (partly): she would always require more and more. She would never give a helping Hand, would sit down only like some queen and would complain if there's only 1 dish- Madame wants at least 2 dishes- take notice that she would just sit down. Ah and the plates would be too small...
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 4641 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 03, 2016 08:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by LaceyLeigh: Sounds like she's afraid of being without food..ordering extra portions, buying two bottles of milk instead of one. It probably stems from her mother being a poor cook.
she would never admit it. She would always tell me "abundance, abundance and abundance and wealth. If you follow abundance, you would experience abundance. I follow the path of abundance". She would not be joking... IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 2817 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 03, 2016 08:22 AM
I wonder if there was neglect in the form of physical starvation? Or perhaps empty cupboards at home etc.? IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 4641 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 03, 2016 08:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: I wonder if there was neglect in the form of physical starvation? Or perhaps empty cupboards?
Nope, look at my post above. She is the daughter of a butcher and a lot of Food was available all the time IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 2817 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 03, 2016 08:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: Nope, look at my post above. She is the daughter of a butcher and a lot of Food was available all the time
Oh ok . I missed that. But in any event, I was taking a shot in the dark. Chrion speaks of psychological wounds. And not necessarily physical ones. I grew up in a home that was reasonably well-off. But my Chiron is in the 2nd house in Taurus. And I think it describes the psychological wound of feeling deprived of physical affection. With Saturn conjunct Venus(ruler of Taurus), I certainly felt like this. I never got hugs from my parents. But I did get monetary "security". In her case, the ruler of her Moon(Uranus) forms a conjunct aspect with Venus. And it Uranus on Venus adds an irregular/ inconsistent quality to physical affection and love. At times one can be over-simulated. At other time, under-stimulated. There is rare consistency in someone preferences/appetite. And that Jupiter in emotional Scorpio on the Moon(square) certainly does not help things. And may exaggerate the emotional nature IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 4641 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 03, 2016 08:51 AM
Same with my friend.Her family was well to do but she almost never got affection. I think it's a generational Problem. The Generation of our mothers and grandmothers grew up during WW2 or shortly afterwards. Anyone was traumatized and showing affection was not common. IP: Logged |
Enneline Knowflake Posts: 4641 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 16, 2016 08:22 AM
*BUMP*Anyone else has an opinion on this? IP: Logged |