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pire
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posted March 04, 2016 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there a way in chart to know what "role" one adopted during WWII, in other words if one was a nazi ? Or a victim ?

Any asteroid, configuration ? Pattern ?

Specifically concerning nazism ?

*ps: this subject isn't meant to be about blaming or anything like rhat, so I hope everyone will understand this and approach the topic with respect for what we find out. We need to approach whatever comes up with compassion and wisdom... Thanks Lindalanders !

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Dreaminess
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posted March 04, 2016 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaminess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jupiter/sag/9th house influence i think. I have noticed they either strongly like religion other cultures etc or they strongly dislike it but they very rarely are indifferent to it.

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posted March 04, 2016 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The rise of the Nazis was based on political and economic realities of the time, and was also a type of blind karma. Given how many were Nazis or collaborated with them (not to mention the passive support the Nazis got, or like when no nation, including the United States, would give Jews who left on a ship sanctuary, plus many of the Nazi racial views came from a US college and after the war the US and Soviets further victimized some of the victims of the Nazis), and how many tens of millions were victims (and that's not even including the war dead), I'd think too many would pretty much share the same traits, because way too many people are involved. That is if you had their charts, then I don't see how you could isolate anything to determine what you want, because people on both sides would have it. (If it could be done, it would require some serious computing, I don't think a human mind could sort through all that data and find anything, not if they looked at all of it.)

Complicating it is that plenty were both. There were Jews who said they were "Germans first" and turned on other Jews and yet were still targeted themselves, as just one example. Even prominent Nazis were purged, such as Strasser . All in all, I don't see how astrology can be used with accuracy here.

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posted March 04, 2016 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, character and values cannot be seen in charts. MOST people are sheep. It takes a very principled person like Corrie Ten Boom or Schindler to stand up.

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Dreaminess
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posted March 04, 2016 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaminess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
" I'd think too many would pretty much share the same traits, because way too many people are involved. That is if you had their charts, then I don't see how you could isolate anything to determine what you want, because people on both sides would have it. (If it could be done, it would require some serious computing, I don't think a human mind could sort through all that data and find anything, not if they looked at all of it.)
Complicating it is that plenty were both. There were Jews who said they were "Germans first" and turned on other Jews and yet were still targeted themselves, as just one example. Even prominent Nazis were purged, such as Strasser . All in all, I don't see how astrology can be used with accuracy here."

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DopGang
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posted March 04, 2016 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is not quite on topic but I think is very interesting. http://www.astrology.co.uk/news/worldwar2.htm

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posted March 04, 2016 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dreaminess:
" I'd think too many would pretty much share the same traits, because way too many people are involved. That is if you had their charts, then I don't see how you could isolate anything to determine what you want, because people on both sides would have it. (If it could be done, it would require some serious computing, I don't think a human mind could sort through all that data and find anything, not if they looked at all of it.)
Complicating it is that plenty were both. There were Jews who said they were "Germans first" and turned on other Jews and yet were still targeted themselves, as just one example. Even prominent Nazis were purged, such as Strasser . All in all, I don't see how astrology can be used with accuracy here."

Yeah, lots of data crunching. But we don't actually have the birthdates of a sufficient number of people (from the ground up) - only the famous ones.

However, it may not be so much about the natals as the generational aspects, and the way transits affected them, that come into play. Maybe some particularly nasty transits coincided with this generation's common denominators? Will have to check...

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Kannon McAfee
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posted March 04, 2016 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pire:
Is there a way in chart to know what "role" one adopted during WWII, in other words if one was a nazi ? Or a victim ?

Any asteroid, configuration ? Pattern ?

Specifically concerning nazism ?


No. Your birth chart deals with the energies for this lifetime only, and at best gives only a very general suggestion of past strengths and weaknesses, not specifics on anything.

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