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Nyctea
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posted March 21, 2016 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nyctea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tell me about your midpoints, your ASC to each planet and how you feel about it. There's this online calculator if you want .

I was reading this topic and i want to know about this "they say your sun,moon merc mars etc midpoints to your asc reveal your true nature..." I think it's very interesting because midpoints, angles, vertex etc are equally important in my opinion.

I want to know if you feel "your nature" represented by the ASC/planets signs??

My midpoints(ASC)
Sun/Ascendant: Libra
Moon/Ascendant: Gemini
Mercury/Ascendant: Libra
Venus/Ascendant: Scorpio
Mars/Ascendant: Scorpio
Jupiter/Ascendant: Scorpio
Saturn/Ascendant: Gemini
Uranus/Ascendant: Scorpio
Neptune/Ascendant: Scorpio
Pluto/Ascendant: Libra

This doesn't have anything to do with this topic but i just noticed that my Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Mars midpoint are EXACTLY the signs in the natal chart of a singer who caught my attention and i had to look at his chart That's cool.

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hearttreasure
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posted March 21, 2016 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun/Ascendant: Cap
Moon/Ascendant: Leo
Mercury/Ascendant: Cap
Venus/Ascendant: Aqua
Mars/Ascendant: Sag
Jupiter/Ascendant: Leo
Saturn/Ascendant: Sag
Uranus/Ascendant: Sag
Neptune/Ascendant: Cap
Pluto/Ascendant: Sag

Interesting! That's why I feel like a cap for some reason besides saturn conjunct asc.

Edit:
Just found out my only celebrity crush, Bradley Cooper, has Cap sun, Cap mercury, Sag mars

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Vixen
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posted March 21, 2016 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those midpoints are only valid in your natal if some of your planets or important points are making conjunction or hard aspect to them under 2 degrees. Otherwise, they're just lying there dormant, unless they're activated by transiting planet.

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hearttreasure
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posted March 21, 2016 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vixen:
Those midpoints are only valid in your natal if some of your planets or important points are making conjunction or hard aspect to them under 2 degrees. Otherwise, they're just lying there dormant, unless they're activated by transiting planet.

Oh, well, interesting!

Moon/Ascendant = mercury
Mercury/Ascendant = jupiter
Venus/Ascendant = sun
Jupiter/Ascendant = mercury
Saturn/Ascendant = saturn
Uranus/Ascendant = saturn

So, what does that mean?

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Spongebob
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posted March 21, 2016 09:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asteodienst has a midpoint calculator chart. I think it's listed under the Pullen charts.

Midpoints matter and it annoys me that people dont focus on them more. Especially in synastry. If someone's planet lands on your sun-moon midpoint, that is not something to dismiss.

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ReadingTheStars95
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posted March 21, 2016 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^
Definitely.

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CosmiqPhuz
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posted March 21, 2016 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interestingly, my Sun/Moon midpoint is trine my Asc. Also, my Venus/Mars midpoint is conjunct my Sun.

I only recently learned about midpoints, so I'm very curious about them right now.

I'll calculate my asc/planet midpoints a little later.

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Vixen
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posted March 21, 2016 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Oh, well, interesting!

Moon/Ascendant = mercury
Mercury/Ascendant = jupiter
Venus/Ascendant = sun
Jupiter/Ascendant = mercury
Saturn/Ascendant = saturn
Uranus/Ascendant = saturn

So, what does that mean?


Moon/Asc = Mercury
You are quite talkative and don't have problem expressing your feelings.

Mercury/Ascendant = jupiter
Jupiter/Ascendant = mercury
You have great sense of humor

Venus/Ascendant = sun
You are charming, social, friendly and probably good looking too

Uranus/Ascendant = saturn
You are probably afraid to be original and to stand out of crowd.

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Vixen
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posted March 21, 2016 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
Interestingly, my Sun/Moon midpoint is trine my Asc. Also, my Venus/Mars midpoint is conjunct my Sun.

I only recently learned about midpoints, so I'm very curious about them right now.

I'll calculate my asc/planet midpoints a little later.


Trines and sextiles don't count. Only hard aspect and conjunctions, since they generate much more energy.
But with Sun on Venus/Mars, you may be very charismatic and creative

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Vixen
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posted March 21, 2016 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spongebob:
Asteodienst has a midpoint calculator chart. I think it's listed under the Pullen charts.

Midpoints matter and it annoys me that people dont focus on them more. Especially in synastry. If someone's planet lands on your sun-moon midpoint, that is not something to dismiss.


Yeah... I HATE how ignored midpoints are...In my natal, they work just great!
Although I'm still quite sceptical about them in synastry. Sun-Moon midpoint seems to work for me pretty well. Others? Not that much... :/

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CosmiqPhuz
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posted March 21, 2016 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vixen:
But with Sun on Venus/Mars, you may be very charismatic and creative

Hey, I'll take that!

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Vixen
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posted March 21, 2016 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ASC midpoints are:

Venus/Asc=Sun and Moon
For Scorpio rising, I'm very friendly and pleasant when talking to strangers. I'm still quite introverted though. And I think that thanks to this midpoint picture I have nice skin

Lilith/Asc=Venus
I kind of love to present myself as a Lilith-type woman

MC/Asc=Neptune
Sometimes I feel like I'm invisible...

Sun/Juno=Asc
Am I seen as someone who would make a good wife?

Mars/Pluto=Asc
People (especially men!) feel pretty intimidated by me...

Venus/Chiron=Asc
Someone help me to interpret it, please

Also, do you guys think that declination midpoints are valid?

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Vixen
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posted March 21, 2016 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
Hey, I'll take that!


How tight it is? I have this too, under 1 degree. People say I'm very magnetic

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Nyctea
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posted March 21, 2016 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nyctea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ohhh. So... alone they don't matter at all? It has to make a hard aspect to be important in the natal?

So about what was said on the other topic "they say your sun,moon merc mars etc midpoints to your asc reveal your true nature..." isn't true?

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XzaultaX
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posted March 21, 2016 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XzaultaX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Positions-
Ascendant- 23 Sco 19' 02"
Sun/Ascendant 24 Sco 38' 13"
Moon/Ascendant 15 Leo 57' 39"
Mercury/Ascendant 25 Sco 52' 46"
Venus/Ascendant 11 Sco 46' 00"
Mars/Ascendant 07 Sco 27' 01"
Jupiter/Ascendant 05 Lib 30' 09"
Saturn/Ascendant 10 Vir 34' 02"
Uranus/Ascendant 09 Cap 09' 22"
Neptune/Ascendant 00 Cap 52' 26"
Pluto/Ascendant 04 Sag 58' 52"

Aspects-
Sun/AC conjunct Sun
Sun/AC square Uranus
Sun/AC conjunct AC
Moon/AC conjunct Jupiter
Mercury/AC conjunct Sun
Mercury/AC square Urnaus
Mars/AC opposition Moon
Jupiter/AC square Chiron
Saturn/AC square True Node
Pluto/AC square MC
Chiron/AC conjunct Pluto

I also have Moon/Jupiter conjunct Saturn I hate this midpoint ;-;

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CosmiqPhuz
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posted March 21, 2016 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmiqPhuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vixen:
How tight it is? I have this too, under 1 degree. People say I'm very magnetic

Mine's 2 degrees, is that close enough for any significance?

What are your Sun, Mars, and Venus? I'm late Libra Sun, Libra Mars, and Scorpio Venus.

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Ceridwen
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posted March 22, 2016 04:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Midpoints work, also in synastry, especially if a natal midpoint picture is triggered by someone else`s planet.
Let`s say you have natally Sun conjunct Venus/Mars and someone elses Mars opposes your Sun, he would activate the whole picture for you.

Activation of midpoint pictures without a planet also work, but maybe a bit more subtly.

Orb: 1°00-1°30 max
aspects: conjunction, opposition, square


Where I find them working amazing is transits btw, and other predictive charts, maybe because they are so event-oriented.


Midpoints in a sign? Hmm, not so sure about it. If so, then we would have to take the whole axis into account, as there are always two midpoints in a circle for any given two objects, a near and a far one. They are both equally valid.

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hearttreasure
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posted March 22, 2016 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vixen:
Moon/Asc = Mercury
You are quite talkative and don't have problem expressing your feelings.

Mercury/Ascendant = jupiter
Jupiter/Ascendant = mercury
You have great sense of humor

Venus/Ascendant = sun
You are charming, social, friendly and probably good looking too

Uranus/Ascendant = saturn
You are probably afraid to be original and to stand out of crowd.


Oh, well, I get caught, you know me now. lol.

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Sikanda
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posted March 22, 2016 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine.
Sun/Ascendant 09 Can 12' 24"
Moon/Ascendant 18 Can 57' 32"
Mercury/Ascendant 09 Can 16' 29"
Venus/Ascendant 02 Leo 01' 40"
Mars/Ascendant 10 Vir 23' 33"
Jupiter/Ascendant 11 Lib 58' 19"
Saturn/Ascendant 19 Leo 35' 37"
Uranus/Ascendant 26 Leo 54' 19"
Neptune/Ascendant 04 Vir 14' 23"
Pluto/Ascendant 05 Leo 21' 33"
Chiron/Ascendant 28 Tau 14' 08"
True Node/Ascendant 28 Ari 21' 05"

I'm more Cancerian and Leonian that I though (originally I have nothing in Leo or Cancer. I don't think I feel much like that, hmmm). But I do feel the midpoint venus/asc in Leo.

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Electro DGX
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posted March 22, 2016 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are mine:

Sun/Ascendant 18 Sag 54' 49"
Moon/Ascendant 20 Leo 26' 22"
Mercury/Ascendant 16 Sag 12' 43"
Venus/Ascendant 29 Sag 36' 33"
Mars/Ascendant 00 Sco 37' 52"
Jupiter/Ascendant 13 Cap 43' 17"
Saturn/Ascendant 29 Can 13' 39"
Uranus/Ascendant 21 Sag 40' 51"
Neptune/Ascendant 16 Sag 29' 25"
Pluto/Ascendant 20 Sco 25' 26"
Chiron/Ascendant 16 Sco 24' 00"
True Node/Ascendant 26 Vir 34' 23"

So much Sag energy, though I've always felt more Scorpio like. Interesting...

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Vixen
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posted March 22, 2016 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Oh, well, I get caught, you know me now. lol.

wow, I'm I that good at inrepreting midpoints ?

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CupOfDavid
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posted March 22, 2016 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CupOfDavid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can never get enough of Midpoints.

Sun/Ascendant: Capricorn
Moon/Ascendant: Sagittarius
Mercury/Ascendant: Capricorn
Venus/Ascendant: Capricorn
Mars/Ascendant: Aquarius
Jupiter/Ascendant: Pisces
Saturn/Ascendant: Sagittarius
Uranus/Ascendant: Sagittarius
Neptune/Ascendant: Sagittarius
Pluto/Ascendant: Sagittarius

My Ascendant is in Sagittarius, so I guess I come across as a true Sagittarius when I first meet people. I call myself an extroverted introvert because people often think I'm the life of a party, but behind closed doors, I'm depressed and extremely private.

Cool thread!

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Ceridwen
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posted March 23, 2016 06:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun/ASC 16°28 Sag
Moon/ASC 12°03 Cap
Mercury/ASC 16°01 Sag
Venus/ASC 21°34 Sag
Mars/ASC 6°05 Sag
Jupiter/ASC 24°06 Cap
Saturn/ASC 26°5 Virgo
Uranus/ASC 19°11 Scorpio
Neptune/ASC 8°28 Sag
Pluto/ASC 8°02 Scorpio


As you can see pretty much all in Sag and Cap, which are emphasized in my chart anyway


ASC conjunct Mars/Neptune 0°32
ASC square Lilith/Juno 1°17
ASC conjunct Mars/Node 0°39
ASC opposite Chiron/Vertex 1°15


Saturn opposite Lilith/ASC 1°12
Ceres square Node/ASC 1°02
Ceres square Neptune/ASC 1°08
Neptune conjunct Node/ASC 1°21
Juno square Sun/ASC 0°29
Juno square Merucry/ASC 0°56
Sun square Saturn/ASC 1°03

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MoonMystic
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posted December 23, 2017 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is rather old. I found the shared
Calculator to be of extreme help with
my Mps. Anyone else interested, it's
worth trying. ☺


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(Asc)
Sun/Ascendant: Capricorn
Moon/Ascendant: Capricorn
Mercury/Ascendant: Capricorn
Venus/Ascendant: Capricorn
Mars/Ascendant: Leo
Jupiter/Ascendant: Scorpio
Saturn/Ascendant: Leo
Uranus/Ascendant: Scorpio
Neptune/Ascendant Sagittarius
Pluto/Ascendant: Scorpio

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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 23, 2017 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me the midpoints I zoom in on are those that are square , conjunct, oppose a planet. The orb is >3 Degrees.

Asc/Mars midpoint conjunct Moon
Asc/Mars midpoint opp Mercury

Moon/Mercury midpoint opp Asc and conjunct natal Mars.

Moon/Mc midpoint conjunct Asc

The Moon/Mercury midpoint opp natal Asc makes sense. I am always talking about how I feel and if not. I am thinking of how I feel.

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