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XzaultaX
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posted March 22, 2016 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XzaultaX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right now I absolutely cannot stand my mother. Everytime I go to her she always makes it worse. I told her about my belief in astrology and she thinks it's all fake. Then I said "why is there a whole study of it and why do so many people believe it?"
Thanks guys

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AC- Scorpio
Sun- Scorpio
Moon- Taurus

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llewsacm
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posted March 22, 2016 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is squaring your moon in the natal? Look at that and anything you might have in cancer. Check synastry and composite with her.

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mercury89
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posted March 22, 2016 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercury89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by XzaultaX:
Right now I absolutely cannot stand my mother. Everytime I go to her she always makes it worse. I told her about my belief in astrology and she thinks it's all fake. Then I said "why is there a whole study of it and why do so many people believe it?"
Thanks guys



its funny that your signature says you have Taurus moon and you cannot stand your mother. Perhaps that Moon sign gives the best mothers in the world.

I believe its because she is opposing your scorpio asc?
What aspects does you moon has? I she squaring/opposing Mars-Saturn or Pluto?

What planets do you have in the 4th house? What aspects does the ruler of your 4th receives?

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XzaultaX
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posted March 22, 2016 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XzaultaX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by llewsacm:
What is squaring your moon in the natal? Look at that and anything you might have in cancer. Check synastry and composite with her.

Moon square Neptune Exact and most exact aspect in my chart
Moon opposition Venus

None in cancer

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XzaultaX
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posted March 22, 2016 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XzaultaX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mercury89:

its funny that your signature says you have Taurus moon and you cannot stand your mother. Perhaps that Moon sign gives the best mothers in the world.

I believe its because she is opposing your scorpio asc?
What aspects does you moon has? I she squaring/opposing Mars-Saturn or Pluto?

What planets do you have in the 4th house? What aspects does the ruler of your 4th receives?


Moon square Neptune exact
Moon opposition Venus

4th house-
No planets
Pisces cusp- Jupiter
Jupiter opposition Uranus and Neptune (light orbs)
Jupiter square sun (light orb)
Jupiter sextile Mars
Jupiter trine pluto

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ReadingTheStars95
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posted March 23, 2016 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah! I have a lot to say to this. I'm just going to need a minute to sit down

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Nyctea
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posted March 23, 2016 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nyctea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mom and I have a 'bad' relationship too.

I have a Taurus Moon in the 9th/10th house cusp. My Moon is receiving 4 squares(Venus, Neptune, Uranus, ASC. And also an inconjunction from Pluto) if i remember. She's too cold and didn't give me attention when i was little. I understand and appreaciate everything she did for me and still does. But sometimes is hard to think that if i wasn't so lonely as a child, i'd be less problematic.

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ReadingTheStars95
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posted March 23, 2016 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me and my Mom have always had a complicated time with each other.

Honestly, there have been times where she has treated me with a lot of compassion.. But, I could also say that she has probably said some of the most hurtful things I've had someone say to me.

She was an alcoholic (well, technically, that never goes away even when they stop drinking.. So, technically she still is even though she no longer drinks..) from when I turned 12 or so until a little while after I turned 20, last year. Well.. Long story short, she ended up having her gallbladder removed because of complications from drinking and ended up with guillain-barré syndrome.. Seeing her go through it, and not being able to do much to help her was a tragic experience. She's still recovering, and is living in a manor until she can walk on her own. She has been having a lot of problems with her memory and such.

I don't mean to go into all the details. I feel bad. But.. Basically.. I guess I'm trying to say..

For me, my Mom was there for me emotionally, in a way my dad never had been. There were times she treated me really well, and times she said some really terrible things to me. I often took care of her when she drank too much or was going through withdrawal.

I guess I'm giving a basis to the relationship, because, even though we had some really tough times, we also had some good times. Basically, there were a lot of times of arguing, and that always got me down. I'd have a really hard time getting through to her at times.. And my arguments with her probably made me feel worse than a lot of things I've experienced.

My Sun is in Taurus. My Draconic Moon is also in Taurus.

You said you have Neptune square Moon. Me having Neptune in the 4th house, I think that can explain it. Especially with your Taurus Moon. It's like.. Taurus wants to be close with their Mother.. They want that common ground. But, when it doesn't happen, it can be very upsetting.

Even through everything I've experienced with her.. All the bad things.. She still means so much to me. I guess there have been a lot of extremes between us. We probably stopped each other from killing ourselves more than once. But, at the same time, there were nights where she made me feel like dirt.

I guess part of why I went into detail about her getting sick is because.. I guess, maybe, if I had known that things were going to go so far downhill, maybe I would have done things a bit differently.

I don't know. I'm rambling.

I guess my message is that.. I know it is frustrating. Very frustrating. Especially with that Taurean influence.

And, I wish you and your Mom the best.

The example you mentioned just reminded me a lot of my relationship with my mom.

One day she'd be calling me crazy.. The next day I'd be trying to stop her from overdosing on pills. A week later, we'd be talking about all kinds of things, enjoying ourselves.

There's more to be said.. But, I've made this post long enough as it is. xD

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XzaultaX
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posted March 23, 2016 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for XzaultaX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you readingthestars and Nyctea

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Aries23Degrees
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posted March 23, 2016 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by XzaultaX:
Right now I absolutely cannot stand my mother. Everytime I go to her she always makes it worse. I told her about my belief in astrology and she thinks it's all fake. Then I said "why is there a whole study of it and why do so many people believe it?"
Thanks guys

Not many people know that I am into astrology. And when they do find out, a lot of them tend to roll their eyes.

Avoid letting someone walk in your garden, if you know they own a chainsaw.

Some people just don't get who you are. And that is really okay- even if/especially if those people are your parents.

One of the best things that I have ever done for myself- is release my father from expectations that I have had of whom he "should" be and what he "ought" to have done.

It was not easy. I was bitter for many years. But the tenacious application of wanting to release him, has made it possible for me to not care what he is choosing/doing/having/wanting. I am just not emotionally vulnerable to him anymore.

The 8th house speaks of loss, the 6th of impediments and the 7th of "open enemies".

Your Moon(mother) is in the 7th house of "open enemies". You may feel that she declares war on you each time she speaks.

The 7th house point can also make one feel like they have to explain themselves or defend their worth to exist.

If the Moon is conjunct the DSC,you could be very sensitive and defensive-feeling like people "out there" are out to conspire or hurt you.

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Elysia
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posted March 23, 2016 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

Avoid letting someone walk in your garden, if you know they own a chainsaw.

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XzaultaX
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posted March 23, 2016 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XzaultaX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Some people just don't get who you are. And that is really okay- even if/especially if those people are your parents.

The 8th house speaks of loss, the 6th of impediments and the 7th of "open enemies".


This explains a little, my moon in is my 6th house. I'm in my teen years and she never lets my do anything and if I buy something that I have use for and she doesn't or do something I think is right she shames me on it.
And thank you Aries for the support this meant a lot

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hannaramaa
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posted March 23, 2016 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon trine Neptune isn't always the best. Could indicate the mother had issues.

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