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Vixen
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posted March 30, 2016 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like you to take this test, share your results here and tell me aspects and placements in your natal that you think may be contributing to your political opinions.
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html

My result is "left social moderate". I should be pretty conservative with my Cancer Sun-Mercury, 4th house Moon and my Taurus Mars, but no I'm actually pretty liberal. I would think most liberal lefties have airy charts, especially strong Aqua, but then again, I don't have any air in my chart...
I think it's my Mars trine Uranus that makes me rebel against traditional conventions. Draco Lilith on my MC may contribute to this as well.

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Ceridwen
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posted March 30, 2016 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apparently I am left social moderate, too.
(Knew that before though )

I donīt think though that a political orientation can be seen in the signs of a chart. I think what rather can be seen how you communicate your political views, not the views themselves.

BTW I am slightly more tilted to Authoritiarian (0.08 - lol, exactly on the line, I am "cultural liberal" though, whatever that means)

Sun in Sag
ASC in Sag conj. Mars-Neptune
Moon in Aqua

9th house has Leo on the cusp, Virgo intercepted, Sun is conjunct Mercury in Sag in 1st house.


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Lerena
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posted March 30, 2016 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Results:
Center-left Moderate-social Libertarian.

I was hoping the quiz would explain why I fit this result, but it didn't. I am left ignorant and without knowledge of my own political affiliation.

When I have time, I'll Google an explanation so I can figure out which placements I have contribute to my views.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted March 30, 2016 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Political Views
I am a left social libertarian
Left: 7.49, Libertarian: 4.25

... agrees generally with http://politicalcompass.org/...

I won't make any correlates to factors in my birth chart because my politics has shifted from far right/authoritarian as a young voter raised in a fundamentalist household to leftist, because I have taken the time to be better informed and listen to those with different backgrounds and views than mine.

In no way does your birth chart set your politics in cement. Period. Politics is a function of learning and democratic interaction.

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PixieJane
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posted March 30, 2016 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Over the last 10 years (I think a little longer), I've taken that test repeatedly and was a tiny fraction less libertarian than before, and noticeably more to the left each time.

While I can speculate on the how and why my chart INDIRECTLY contributes to that (upbringing and life experiences have far more to do with this directly than astrology), I just don't feel like it. But interesting enough, no matter how my ideology changes, the reasons I give for it continue to be what my Libra Saturn would say.

Though I should say, any attempt to label my ideology is futile. As a very general category, perhaps, but not to define my beliefs and values, any such labels would just mislead you.

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Violets
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posted March 30, 2016 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some of these questions are ridiculous, and others are oversimplified.

But I'll do it, because I'm bored.

Far left Social Libertarian.

Left: 7.62
Libertarian: 4.16

Please excuse my tone. Tr Sun is hitting my Pluto/Saturn square, and I'm kind of itchy.

It's probably Uranus that lends itself to my leftist ways, and my tendency to not feel the need to butt into the affairs of other countries unless it appears absolutely necessary.

Edit.
Probably both Neptune and Uranus at play here.

Uranus conjunct IC, trine Pisces Sun.
Mercury/POF conjunct Dsc in Aquarius.
Saturn in H11 trine Sun (taking social issues fairly seriously).

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Stawr
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posted March 30, 2016 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got center-left social libertarian.
Left: 2.97, Libertarian: 4.04

I'm a Gemini rising
Aries Sun house 11
Scorpio Moon house 6

I'm voting for Gary Johnson in 2016

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Faith
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posted March 30, 2016 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not on the spectrum.

I rarely vote. If I do, it's because a candidate impressed me with their character and integrity. I do extensive research before deciding that...personality isn't enough (which is why I didn't vote for Obama.)

Also there has to be a spiritual dimension in order for me to be impressed.

Basically I don't like politics, it's usually more depressing than interesting, and altogether so corrupt it makes me kinda sick.

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DualGem
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posted March 30, 2016 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are a centrist social moderate.
Left: 0.76, Libertarian: 0.81

I guess my air aspects what to go left, but my earth aspects want to go right.

I'm really in the middle. I try to see the big picture on things....but its a complicated world in the end.

I try to refrain from talking about politics or religion in public places. Only around people I know or already know what there political opinions are.

Say anything regarding religion or politics and your bound to get a reaction. Don't add fuel to the fire unless you have to.

Lol, I dare anyone who comments on the Global Unity forum to take this quiz.

My premise is most of the users would score on the extreme side of the spectrum.
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Gemini Sun,
Capricorn Rising
Aries Moon
Gemini Mercury
Venus Taurus
Mars Cancer

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hypatia238
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posted March 30, 2016 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vixen:
I would like you to take this test, share your results here and tell me aspects and placements in your natal that you think may be contributing to your political opinions.
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html

My result is "left social moderate". I should be pretty conservative with my Cancer Sun-Mercury, 4th house Moon and my Taurus Mars, but no I'm actually pretty liberal. I would think most liberal lefties have airy charts, especially strong Aqua, but then again, I don't have any air in my chart...
I think it's my Mars trine Uranus that makes me rebel against traditional conventions. Draco Lilith on my MC may contribute to this as well.


Ok you can have very conservative values and be very rebellious; rebelliousness is not unique to liberals definitely . Like a liberal oppressing the right to bear arms and a conservative rebelling against that oppression so that we dont end up in a world were only criminals or men in uniform with power that can be abused are the only ones carrying. Its a fact that parts of the world were everyone carries and have citizens taught to carry have extremely low crime rate, there is good reason for that. Not to mention that when you make things illegal all it does is create a black market.


Adam Kokesh is an activist and anarcho capitalist who is very conservative who envisions a world with no government but a different type of system in place. He is an aquarius, my husband has similar views to Adam Kokesh and he has Uranus conjunct his Mars and DC angle all extremely tightly. He also has venus in the 4th squaring Mars-Uranus-DC. Both quite the non conformists and there is nothing mainstream about them and both want to live off grid; to me that is rebellious but in a 'right' type of way.

Its hard to picture anyone falling in the moderate spectrum as being rebellious.

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teasel
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posted March 31, 2016 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't taken the test, but I'm Liberal, pretty far left, Independent.

Most of the time, I don't talk politics, but I got caught up in something tonight. I was reminded of why I don't talk about it: people, even those who are supposedly on the same side, dismiss each other and don't listen to their concerns.

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PixieJane
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posted March 31, 2016 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Its hard to picture anyone falling in the moderate spectrum as being rebellious.

An example of this would be a boy I knew raised by a right wing extremist who thought he'd live to see when the Antichrist tried chipping people with 666 which is why he lived in the sticks with some other survivalists, and off the grid (and homeschooled his son, ordering homeschool lesson plans from an extremist fringe group that included notions that the entire universe was only a few thousand years old).

He joined our group (homeschooled and unschooled kids), at least until his father realized we (and the two primary adults who were helping us) didn't subscribe to his extreme religious and political beliefs. In that time the boy made use of the library (which is where our group met, but we became friends and met elsewhere as well) and came up with arguments against his father's beliefs that represented much more moderate views, and came to accept the theory of evolution as making a lot more sense than Creationism. Ironically, I offered him theories in which humans could still be created (featuring extraterrestrials, though more for fun to play with the idea) but he said he'd need strong evidence to believe something like that.

Eventually, he'd join the US Army (more to get away from his father, but his father thought the government was evil, including its military). So I'd say he was moderate...and rebellious, if only from his perspective where the majority he was exposed to growing up was like his father (as opposed to going to public school, to the mall with kids, etc), and then his making a conscious decision to make use of the library to question everything he'd been taught and come to different conclusions.

That said...I think Vixen probably just supports gay marriage, feminism, open immigration, and things like that, which are generally rejected in many parts of the USA (and thus rebellious to have them). Anyone who embraced such ideals (and astrology, too) would be seen as rebellious (and worse) if they were raised in the East Texas small town where most of my kin live. Of course my kin, who tend to be conformist to the area they were raised in, would be considered rebellious (and worse) in San Francisco, though in US terms I'd call them fairly moderate.

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Gemini Blues
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posted March 31, 2016 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Center-right social libertarian. Ever so slightly left on social issues, a little more right on business and foreign policy. But mostly just anti-authoritian. I've taken these before, haven't changed much in the last decade.

Astrologically it's my mutable T-square with Uranus Virgo/10th (freedom) opposing Saturn sR Picses/4th (authority, but stationed retrograde, so waining) square Mercury Gemini/8th (thought, communication) conjunct vertex (makes it a subject I think/care about) Pluto in the 11th, widely aspecting all three gives it all a punch.

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posted March 31, 2016 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a moderate Right leaner.

10th house stellium?

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teasel
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posted March 31, 2016 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
I haven't taken the test, but I'm Liberal, pretty far left, Independent.

Most of the time, I don't talk politics, but I got caught up in something tonight. I was reminded of why I don't talk about it: people, even those who are supposedly on the same side, dismiss each other and don't listen to their concerns.


Oh, I keep forgetting to add astrology.
I don't know: Uranus all over the place, maybe. 6th house Sun in Aries, is probably part of me that likes Bernie so much.

Moon conjunct Venus, wants people to be nice, which is never going to happen in politics.

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Vixen
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posted March 31, 2016 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Hypatia and PixieJane, I know that rebeliousness is not quality that only liberals have. But I'm from country, where most people are strictly against gay marriage, acceptance of immigrants, feminism etc. (a lot of people from my neighborhood actually think that supporting of gay marriage is plot of evil Jews and illuminati to destroy society, lol ) And honestly? My country is full of petty-burgeois racist ******** , who are afraid of anything they didn't see in their god-forsaken village. So yeah, in my country I'm considered rebellious. My opinions are highly unpopular there :P

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posted March 31, 2016 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vixen,

you`re pointing out something important, as the social/ cultural/ familial background really will determine if you are considered rebellious or not.

In a society where people living together without getting married is the norm, someone who gets married will be considered rebellious (and possibly showing some Uranus-signatures ).
While in societies where marriages are the norm, anyone living with someone without being married will fall out of the norm.

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Vixen
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posted March 31, 2016 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vixen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Vixen,

you`re pointing out something important, as the social/ cultural/ familial background really will determine if you are considered rebellious or not.

In a society where people living together without getting married is the norm, someone who gets married will be considered rebellious (and possibly showing some Uranus-signatures ).
While in societies where marriages are the norm, anyone living with someone without being married will fall out of the norm.


Exactly. Or, in conservative country, someone with Sun square Uranus would be the one, who is kissing with member of same sex in front of Catholic priest. Whereas Sun-Uranus person surrounded by liberals, LGBT activists may lean toward right-wing extremism :P

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posted March 31, 2016 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had edited out my previous comment regarding my voting habits (I also don't often vote, because I'm rarely impressed by politicians, and normally see precious little difference between the two US parties), but I'll add a bit.

I think that, in the US, people are generally becoming less one thing or the other, and seem to be consistently leaning towards a more healthy mix of interests and beliefs.

For the record, I'll be voting this election.

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posted March 31, 2016 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Ok you can have very conservative values and be very rebellious; rebelliousness is not unique to liberals definitely . Like a liberal oppressing the right to bear arms and a conservative rebelling against that oppression so that we dont end up in a world were only criminals or men in uniform with power that can be abused are the only ones carrying. Its a fact that parts of the world were everyone carries and have citizens taught to carry have extremely low crime rate, there is good reason for that. Not to mention that when you make things illegal all it does is create a black market.


That's one of the main reason's why I can't be a full blown liberal.

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posted March 31, 2016 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Best. Ever.

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Originally posted by Stawr:


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PixieJane
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posted March 31, 2016 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Heh, that at least is something that has never changed for me over the years.

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teasel
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posted March 31, 2016 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in the 11th, square Jupiter and Saturn. I usually like the person who has no chance whatsoever, of winning.

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posted March 31, 2016 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
Center-right social libertarian. Ever so slightly left on social issues, a little more right on business and foreign policy. But mostly just anti-authoritian. I've taken these before, haven't changed much in the last decade.

Astrologically it's my mutable T-square with Uranus Virgo/10th (freedom) opposing Saturn sR Picses/4th (authority, but stationed retrograde, so waining) square Mercury Gemini/8th (thought, communication) conjunct vertex (makes it a subject I think/care about) Pluto in the 11th, widely aspecting all three gives it all a punch.


That's where I was when I took the test a few years ago. I may have changed and don't want to take the test again.

But I have the same t-square:
Mercury-Saturn-Uranus

Pluto in the 3H on the Mercury/Mars midpoint for punch

Anyway I like Ron Paul.

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posted March 31, 2016 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Adam Kokesh is an activist and anarcho capitalist who is very conservative who envisions a world with no government but a different type of system in place. He is an aquarius, my husband has similar views to Adam Kokesh and he has Uranus conjunct his Mars and DC angle all extremely tightly. He also has venus in the 4th squaring Mars-Uranus-DC. Both quite the non conformists and there is nothing mainstream about them and both want to live off grid; to me that is rebellious but in a 'right' type of way.

Its hard to picture anyone falling in the moderate spectrum as being rebellious.


He's pretty cute, too

It's been so long since I followed anything he was doing. Didn't he run for some kind of office years ago? I might've given to his campaign. But then he protested at the Lincoln Memorial and got arrested for dancing ("What? I can't dance here??") and I lost respect for him over that.

I still like investigative journalist Ben Swann, who looks like a politician and would make a great one, I think. But I don't know.

ETA: Glenn Greenwald should run for President.

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