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UnderworldGlory
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posted April 07, 2016 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anybody else have Neptune and Uranus occupying their 7th house?

Has is it led to any bad relationships?

My Uranus and Neptune are both in Capricorn which isn't an easy sign placement for either planets.

However, since it's in Capricorn I assume this gives both planets a kind of stabilization depending on what Neptune and Uranus are trying to convey while both in the same sign.

Since the rulership for both of them is Saturn, I have a grand Earth and Water trine (Saturn in Pisces) since all of my outer planets are friendly to one anther.

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posted April 07, 2016 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, one example of a man I know close to 50 with Virgo Mars, Uranus and Pluto in the 7th has been briefly married 3 times. I'm not entirely sure why but my feel is he chooses the wrong type of women, or ends up getting himself into difficult situations - like marrying someone who lives in another country. He is also a fairly independent person, and never seemed to care about being single and living alone (post divorce). Very much a stereotypical bachelor. I think some women would take issue with this. I can also see him being a somewhat tough person to live with because of this.

It doesn't necessarily have to be doom and gloom, though. Having planets in this house can also represent the qualities you look for in partner (projected). Uranus would mean you would look for someone with Aquarian qualities.

Another guy I know has a loaded 7th house too - Mars, Saturn, Jupiter and Pluto and just to isolate Saturn in this case, he definitely looks for a more mature, stable partner - someone he can look up to or learn from - someone with Cappy qualities.

Remember ultimately it is a personal choice to stay in a dysfunctional relationship or with a difficult person. Free will can override anything. We are all susceptible to this no matter what our placements are. My 7th house is empty and I've had experience on each end of the spectrum!

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posted April 07, 2016 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the same placements as you. I think it makes me attract eccentric people and i over idolise them or they over idolise me. Thats what ive objectively noticed with my little experience of relationships. I also crave mature, stable people though. I have really had that yet undortunately.

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posted April 07, 2016 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FruityLlama:
I have the same placements as you. I think it makes me attract eccentric people and i over idolise them or they over idolise me. Thats what ive objectively noticed with my little experience of relationships. I also crave mature, stable people though. I have really had that yet undortunately.

Wow it's like someone finally understands the paradox

I read somewhere that Uranus and Neptune on the 7th is horrible since Neptune is delusion and Uranus relates to sudden events

Yet I'm not attracted to this, I also crave stability.

Sudden spirals drive me insane actually.

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posted April 08, 2016 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It be interesting to know what the ruler of your 7th house is doing. That will give an idea where the energy is focused on. what house it is in and the aspects it makes

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posted April 08, 2016 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tofu addict:
It be interesting to know what the ruler of your 7th house is doing. That will give an idea where the energy is focused on. what house it is in and the aspects it makes

7th Rulership is Saturn

Saturn is in Pisces in the 9th house

Can you add?

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posted April 08, 2016 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by UnderworldGlory:
Wow it's like someone finally understands the paradox

I read somewhere that Uranus and Neptune on the 7th is horrible since Neptune is delusion and Uranus relates to sudden events

Yet I'm not attracted to this, I also crave stability.

Sudden spirals drive me insane actually.


Ahaha you found another!! Yeah i get so tetchy when things suddenly change. I know most people dont like this, but with uranus it tends to attract people who seem to do sudden u-turns. It takes me ages to get over it when people just drop you for no apparent reason. It messes with my head like you said :/ and trying to look for an answer because they were so perfect

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posted April 08, 2016 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Focus on the 9th house makes me think you might have had problems with university applicatioms or university lecturers, something like that. Contradictory spiritual leaders or spiritual teachings. Maybe?

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posted April 08, 2016 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All i know is that my ex-boyfriend (a libra sun) had his neptune and uranus in 7th house, along with venus square uranus... (and sun square neptune)

he was super delusional, but I think I never took this serious until the day he broke up with me:P I think he attracts the wrong kind of woman to his life very much lol... for years I thought I was different, but I also ended up being very bad for him somehow...

He was also super detached and independent of me, and that kinda got weird in the end. I always thought it was too much to ask for, when I just called him and ask how his day had been? He took this as me being paranoid or trying to limit his freedom!!! But for me thats just a normal thing wanting to know what your boyfriend is doing?? Its not something I want to know, because I'm jealous, but he always made me feel like I was wrong... so whenever he just "disappeared" for some days, he really didn't wanted me to call him and ask what he had been doing... (and no he wasn't unfaithful). I was never worried that he might be unfaithful either, but in a way it did got a bit weird in the end.... he could also just go on random travels alone or with his friends for months, and during these travels he never really called me or seemed to miss me much. He was experiencing the world without me, and though I could understand why he would want to travel, it also got a bit weird to have a boyfriend who always wanted to go on travels (alone).

Another thing is that he was super social and always invited random friends over, or just went away without telling me... it was impossible to just have a day or 2 with him and me alone. He never seemed to enjoy this much. He almost never texted me either, he just showed up in front of my door at times and was like "surprise". This was all just a part of his personality and it wasn't super annoying or anything, but more and more I just felt like he lived completely in his own world and didn't really needed me at all.... I felt very alone often in our relationship because we just had our own lifestyles (which was completely different too)

But he was a SUPER sweet, funny and loving guy, there wasn't ANY evil in him and he though so much about others, always before himself... he was just the BEST company I've ever had, and he was always smiling, having fun and having a good time with everyone he met... he was so inspiring and an original. I still miss him alot, but it was too difficult to be his girlfriend!

(he was libra sun (5th house), pisces moon, gemini ascendant) - he had a super nice and dynamic natal chart as well

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posted April 08, 2016 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by UnderworldGlory:
7th Rulership is Saturn

Saturn is in Pisces in the 9th house

Can you add?



What aspects is the ruler of the 7th house making?

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posted April 08, 2016 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tofu addict:

What aspects is the ruler of the 7th house making?

Neptune conj. Uranus
Neptune & Uranus opp. Sun
Trine Mars
Sextile Saturn
Sextile Pluto

Thoughts?

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posted April 08, 2016 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Much of what was said here is profound.I love it when people speak from personal experience

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posted April 08, 2016 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Much of what was said here is profound.I love it when people speak from personal experience


Glad you're enjoying!

Do you have any input?

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posted April 08, 2016 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Uranus in 6th H in conjuction with 7th H cusp (opposite to Natal Sun) and Neptune in 7th H (with North Node in there)
All of them are in Capricorn so their ruler is Saturn which is in Aquarius in my 8th H.

I've never had a relationship/sex or anything. I am almost 25 years old. Till my 21 years old I could not believe that I would not be in a relationship.. I felt like there was no point in living if I would not be with someone.. Relationship for me was something wonderful, I fell twice in love and it was hard.. it's all or nothing for me (Pluto in 5th H squaring Mars and Venus in 2nd h).. So what I idolized was the relationship itself.. Inever dreamed of wedding or family.. I do not want these at all.. But I wanted to be in a relationship even if I was not in love.. I wanted to have a relationship because I felt lonely but that kind of loneliness when you want a boyriend you know?

After my 21 years old I understood that relationships are not that great, in favt they are boring.. When I imagine myself having to go to work and then come home for cleaning and cooking and ironing for 2 and after being super tired and go to sleep he will want sex..
The reason I stopped feeling that I want to be in a relationship was because as I told you that I fell in love twice I suffered so much and I just got over it.. it took me too long but I did it.. I feel like I have a great control of my emotions.. Like I do not even care if I suffer because I know I will get over it.. But it doesn't worth it even beig in love because I do not want a family or to get married or be with someone in the same house everyday I can not do all these things, I hate routine.. I do not even feel the need of having sex anymore.

I do not idealize others in fact it's the opposite.. I have very high standards in fact they are almost unreal. (you have to be too lucky to find a rich man caring for you and not wanting sex ahahahah)

Another thing is that relationships (any kind of relationship even friendships) end without apparent reason.. in fact most of the time there is no reason at all.. it just happens.. I am the one that suffers in the end although it's supposed that I would make others suffer because I am the Uranus/indepedent person..

I do not want to let myself fall in love again because it doesn't worth it, I feel like all are the same.. and every relationship will end up with the other one dissapearing for no reason or because he will want to go our relationship further.. like living under the same roof or getting married or having a family etc..

Sorry for my English I hope you understand what I am saying

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posted April 08, 2016 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
I have Uranus in 6th H in conjuction with 7th H cusp (opposite to Natal Sun) and Neptune in 7th H (with North Node in there)
All of them are in Capricorn so their ruler is Saturn which is in Aquarius in my 8th H.

I've never had a relationship/sex or anything. I am almost 25 years old. Till my 21 years old I could not believe that I would not be in a relationship.. I felt like there was no point in living if I would not be with someone.. Relationship for me was something wonderful, I fell twice in love and it was hard.. it's all or nothing for me (Pluto in 5th H squaring Mars and Venus in 2nd h).. So what I idolized was the relationship itself.. Inever dreamed of wedding or family.. I do not want these at all.. But I wanted to be in a relationship even if I was not in love.. I wanted to have a relationship because I felt lonely but that kind of loneliness when you want a boyriend you know?

After my 21 years old I understood that relationships are not that great, in favt they are boring.. When I imagine myself having to go to work and then come home for cleaning and cooking and ironing for 2 and after being super tired and go to sleep he will want sex..
The reason I stopped feeling that I want to be in a relationship was because as I told you that I fell in love twice I suffered so much and I just got over it.. it took me too long but I did it.. I feel like I have a great control of my emotions.. Like I do not even care if I suffer because I know I will get over it.. But it doesn't worth it even beig in love because I do not want a family or to get married or be with someone in the same house everyday I can not do all these things, I hate routine.. I do not even feel the need of having sex anymore.

I do not idealize others in fact it's the opposite.. I have very high standards in fact they are almost unreal. (you have to be too lucky to find a rich man caring for you and not wanting sex ahahahah)

Another thing is that relationships (any kind of relationship even friendships) end without apparent reason.. in fact most of the time there is no reason at all.. it just happens.. I am the one that suffers in the end although it's supposed that I would make others suffer because I am the Uranus/indepedent person..

I do not want to let myself fall in love again because it doesn't worth it, I feel like all are the same.. and every relationship will end up with the other one dissapearing for no reason or because he will want to go our relationship further.. like living under the same roof or getting married or having a family etc..

Sorry for my English I hope you understand what I am saying


Sorry to hear that Pluto

If it helps I think consciously addressing these issues can help tremendously .. There are things I would love to change in myself but it takes patience and effort and a lot of will power

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posted April 09, 2016 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by UnderworldGlory:
Sorry to hear that Pluto

If it helps I think consciously addressing these issues can help tremendously .. There are things I would love to change in myself but it takes patience and effort and a lot of will power


Thanks
it's really ok for me though
I really do not feel like I want to be in a relationship last 4 years.. I hope I will be like this the rest of my life, it's wonderful not needing someone else, and not being in love (being in love is not a happy emotion for me it's like 80% suffering and 20% happiness) not worth it.
But I wish relationships were my main problem.. (it seems like luxury to me being worried about relationships with the opposite sex, I have so many problems that it would be the least important problem even if I still wanted to be in a relationship)

I forgot to mention that I do not like to be hugged or touched generally (of course there is an exception when I was in love with someone I liked it) but generally I do not even like to be close to others
I feel like suffocating, like they take all the air and I can't breath..
I've been told that this is an Uranus in 7th H or conjuct 7th H cusp thing

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posted April 09, 2016 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by UnderworldGlory:
Neptune conj. Uranus
Neptune & Uranus opp. Sun
Trine Mars
Sextile Saturn
Sextile Pluto

Thoughts?


I am still not sure about your ruler of the 7th house , if that is Saturn as you indicate, tham it can not make a sextile to itself. What sign is on the start of the 7th house?

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posted April 09, 2016 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I am still not sure about your ruler of the 7th house , if that is Saturn as you indicate, tham it can not make a sextile to itself. What sign is on the start of the 7th house?


My immediate 7th house is Aquarius

Aquarius's rulership is Saturn or Uranus (depending on which one you want to use. I used Uranus, sorry)

My Saturn is in Pisces in the 9th house

Saturn aspects Sun, Mars, Chiron, Neptune, Uranus, and Pluto.

Since Pisces's rulership is Jupiter I have Jupiter in Sagittarius in the 5th house.

Does that make more sense? lol

Sorry for the confusion

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posted April 09, 2016 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnderworldGlory     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FruityLlama:
Focus on the 9th house makes me think you might have had problems with university applicatioms or university lecturers, something like that. Contradictory spiritual leaders or spiritual teachings. Maybe?

This is very on the money.

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posted April 09, 2016 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by UnderworldGlory:
My immediate 7th house is Aquarius

Aquarius's rulership is Saturn or Uranus (depending on which one you want to use. I used Uranus, sorry)

My Saturn is in Pisces in the 9th house

Saturn aspects Sun, Mars, Chiron, Neptune, Uranus, and Pluto.

Since Pisces's rulership is Jupiter I have Jupiter in Sagittarius in the 5th house.

Does that make more sense? lol

Sorry for the confusion


Thanks for clarification, if Aquarius is on the cusp than the main ruler I use is Uranus. I will look later and come back to you.

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