posted April 12, 2016 06:02 PM            

What is your personal experience with this mars/pluto aspect people dealing with anger/power of control?

mars conjunct pluto?
mars square pluto?
mars opposite pluto?
mars sextile pluto?
mars trine pluto?

I've read some local news years ago and found the story about this couple who did plan and did kill a woman because of jealousy and anger.

There are some aspects that intrigue me and question me, is this a dangerous aspect?

- The man has mars in scorpio conjunct pluto.
- The woman has mars in aquarius square pluto and moon in sagittarius (could possibly conjunct pluto).

I've met one man who I sense is dangerous person inside (can be abusive/has anger issues), very intense and pretty much very good to repressed it. I found out he has mars opposite pluto.

Mars trine pluto also can be surprisingly have dangerous anger.

posted April 12, 2016 06:08 PM            

My dad my Mars/Uranus/Pluto conjunction in Leo he was a skinhead back in the day and enjoyed fighting in pubs etc, was violent to my mum several times.

But then Johnny Depp has a Mars/Pluto/Uranus conjunction and he doesn't seem violent atall.

posted April 12, 2016 06:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Mystic_Cat:
I have Mars in Leo squaring a Jupiter/Pluto conjunct in Libra

My dad my Mars/Uranus/Pluto conjunction in Leo he was a skinhead back in the day and enjoyed fighting in pubs etc, was violent to my mum several times.

But then Johnny Depp has a Mars/Pluto/Uranus conjunction and he doesn't seem violent atall.

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What do you feel about anger/control for those square?

posted April 12, 2016 09:10 PM            

Even as young as 6-7, my Libra side asserted itself. I ended up being forced to play with the boys which sometimes led to scraps with them (as they did with each other). But if parents caught boys hitting me, it could be bad for them (furthermore, if they won, well they just beat up a girl, but if I won, they got beat by a girl, so there were no bragging rights to be gained, but possible humiliation galore that also discouraged them from scrapping with me). Due to this I'd refrain from starting scraps, because I felt it wasn't fair to them...but if a boy started a scrap with me then I was inclined to finish it (as they were taking unfair advantage of my trying to be fair to them, and my Libra side says that won't fly with my Sag side ready to enforce my Libra's judgment).

Even so, I lost control at times, but I think it's understandable. (I also had terrible role models, and it's probably the scifi and such I read growing up that tended to look down on violence that I wasn't worse than I was.)

Though sometimes, it only appeared I was out of control. When I was 16 I was confronted by cheerleaders, and I realized that if I didn't put a stop to it now then it would only continue (they had a pattern of picking a girl to destroy her before finding a new target)...and I even thought if it made them stop tormenting others then so much the better. But as they were physically fit and outnumbered me, I figured they'd beat the crap out of me, so my decision was to make sure it wasn't worth it and I went all out intending to do as much damage as I could while I could. But as the other cheerleaders only yelled (I think I might've gotten kicked or hit once or twice, but in my state I didn't even notice) and as I realized I was going to win, I downgraded from "street fighter mode" to "schoolyard fight mode." (More happened, but that's beside the point, the point being I had more control than observers would've thought. And I wasn't even that angry.)

As an adult, I've had good self-control for the most part. I do remember one time in which an insecure woman tried to get rid of me until I convinced her I was a lesbian and that I was only present for the music when she started telling guys I'd told her I was interested in him. I was so furious that I wanted to smash her into a bloody mess, and I would've, but I was illegally carrying a gun as it was a dangerous neighborhood that would get me into a lot of trouble if the police caught it on me (and if I did what I wanted to her then they could easily become involved). So I went home and put the gun away...I thought about going back without the gun and attacking her then, but I realized I was taking a chance doing so (again, dangerous neighborhood) and she might even be gone...and no one wanted to pick me up and drive me there just so I could start an altercation (I might not have minded a day or two in jail but they sure would as they weren't as fragged off as I was).

posted April 13, 2016 04:26 AM            

But here is the thing: The anger is from the 1st insult/hurt. Rarely really from the person that you are convinced "deserved" the anger.

Mars/Pluto people often let things simmer for a long time before some poor cashier who short-changed them, gets in the firing line.

posted April 13, 2016 04:59 AM            

Yes I can get angry really angry, but its also emotional at the same time.
And its because the person reaaaally didnt behave well!
I feel inner violence sometimes but I control it try to transcend it!
I never loose a direct battle I never let go when something is unfair, I use this "inner violence" to serve the good I think but it takes it toll on me because Im 100%
with time though as Im growing up I feel more light hearted!

I had never and would never attack someone physicaly though I just cant even as a joke to slap someone its hard for me.

I have a dose of "cruelty" in love as if it was a way to show how much I love someone but my rising cancer is taking over and Im becoming softer with age.

posted April 13, 2016 07:36 AM            

I can get annoyed easily, but that depends on my mood as well. It's not easy for me to get angry, only extreme stuff (the usual, abuse of children and vulnerable people..etc..) makes me see red and pushes my anger towards the land of syphilitic insanity.

posted April 13, 2016 09:16 AM            

For the most part I'm harmless and not controlling enough.

posted April 13, 2016 09:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Mars/Pluto people often let things simmer for a long time before some poor cashier who short-changed them, gets in the firing line.

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LOL

Yesterday the elderly woman in front of me in the grocery line was arguing a coupon's validity FOREVER. At one point I rolled my eyes and exhaled, while keeping my eyes glued to a magazine.

I felt bad for expressing even that much.

posted April 13, 2016 11:05 AM            

There seems to be a few people born with Mars conjunct Pluto in Libra who have mentioned their experiences but my SO has this as well, and in my knowing him he is NOT a violent or angry person. I think it is a very controlled anger, that has probably gotten better with age. His parents have said he was an "angry teen" but he has never been a physically violent person - he would never raise his hand to anyone or has ever gotten into a physical fight with someone. If you push his buttons (and I mean really push them) he will snap, have a quick verbal outburst of anger but then walk away, compose himself and return to apologize for getting angry. He is not one to drag out an argument or stew about it for days. He will quickly try to resolve it and restore harmony in typical Libra fashion.

posted April 13, 2016 06:41 PM            

Yes, I notice that Mars/Pluto people take some time to get angry, but once it explodes, it's like.. hard to control. Some time and for some people it can be like a dangerous anger, like they can kill somebody just by their look, if not controlled.

I do have minor aspect and I can understand the neutral of this aspect.

The couple criminal case that I told you in the first post, when I read the official document report is purely about jealousy and anger in relationship. The woman who has sag moon (could possibly conjunct Pluto) and Mars square Pluto definitely had jealousy and anger issue while the man who has Mars conjunct pluto (moon opposite Venus) just had abusive/killer instinct, he said he had no idea why he did that but the question is, preparing all the tools to kill was not just "have no idea". They were a young couple who had no criminal report and it was like an incident, they did plan to kidnap but not to kill. Things just went wrong.

It was just a small example when those Mars/Pluto aspect, the beast within, compulsively out from the cave. And those who has this aspect usually aware of it, that's why it needs to be controlled. It is very important to have healthy outlet to nurture this powerful energy. A healthy environment I think is a MUST.

posted April 13, 2016 07:21 PM            

She was different from me in many ways. Though I was demisexual, she was hypsexual, she was a bit overweight while I was under doctor's orders to gain weight (and given that it affected my puberty, may have contributed to why I'm demisexual), and though I was athletic, she was a stoner (and she also had plenty of sex with the boys I was just friends with). I wonder how her sun being on the Scorpio side rather than Libra side affected her energy.

I also wonder how our upbringing had an effect, in my home my mother didn't take crap and when she was drunk she could become violent (verbally or violently, things were often a draw between her and Dad), and I also spent many formative years raised by my granny with her maternal authority, whereas she was raised by a violent alcoholic father who beat her submissive mother until the mother went away (abandoning the daughter, though it's more complicated than that). Her father was also part of a fundamentalist church (off and on) and though she openly rebelled against that, she probably gained some ideas that were unhealthy to her as a girl to have, whereas I was lucky enough that my parents rejected religion (other than a couple of amusing moments of short lived conversion, and not at the same time as the other). Furthermore, she wasn't into scifi and the like as I was, preferring the media aimed at girls instead.

And as for me, there's the Cheerios incident, which I won't repeat here...but I have wondered, had I accidentally hurt myself falling off the chair rather than succeeding in making my own breakfast, I wonder how different I'd be today (via butterfly effect). Perhaps her own defining moment didn't turn out so well, or maybe having a Scorpio sun instead of Libra sun, she was unable to "think outside the box" as I did (for a 5-year-old) and may have felt that the evil reality she was surrounded by was inevitable destiny and thus surrendered (somewhat) to it.

And if a revelation on previous lives is true, then she and I were once married a few centuries ago, me a male pirate and she a wife who was devastated when I was killed (and not just emotionally), and perhaps that plays a part as well in the roles we adopted with each other as well as how we expressed ourselves in this life.

posted April 13, 2016 10:40 PM            

I can't barely kill a moth. But unfortunately i have anger issues and jealously. I can be easily annoyed tho i never show it, but if this person/situation keeps provoking me then i have a really hard time trying not to beat the sh** out of them. I've been reading persona charts lately and my Moon's(Taurus) persona has Moon and Mercury in Aries! And the Mercury Venus and ASC persona charts, also Draconic have Scorpio Moons.

I really like the persona chart, specially my ASC which has Venus and Mars conjunct in Cancer (i'm being off topic as usual )

posted April 14, 2016 07:52 AM            

I'd say Mars/Uranus aspects are more dangerous/violent. Mars/Saturn can be cruel.

posted April 14, 2016 08:40 AM            

This is funny haha, exactly like me haha, I wonder why it is like that.. Maybe it is Libra, it is my Acc also.

I have the square btw.

never been to a a fight, I daydream with violence a lot.

Once a guy threthned me with his gang, in middle of the party, end of story i couldnt stop crying, eaven when a child half my height bullied me, my words got stoked, I trembled.

But luckilly I was a adolecent back than, haha nowadays I don't know what would happen, no I m kiding I would probably cry..

posted April 15, 2016 06:52 AM            

@PixieJane
Yes, our upbringing had an effect. Family, friends, and environment shape ours.

posted April 15, 2016 12:27 PM              

Aries23Degrees was spot on for me.

The way I perceive greater issues in the world affects my temper in everyday life. I have a very dismal view of the world, so almost everything ****** me off.

For example; I went to pick up my 16 year old son from his local college yesterday. On his way out of the building he stopped, turned to the woman behind him, let her go first and held the door for her. Now she reached the second set of doors before him (mind you she was just a step in front of him), and she couldn't be bothered to even hold the door just a second more so he could get his hand out and stop it from hitting him in his face! I was furious. This woman was obviously middle aged...wtf?! I was livid over this little thing.
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