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headintheclouds91
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posted April 24, 2016 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for headintheclouds91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Kannon McAfee
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posted April 25, 2016 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With the time range of 12-4 AM in Kuwait city, only Leo or Virgo rising are possible.

When you read the descriptions of Leo vs Virgo, which ones fits most?
http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/#leo

Read these descriptions of Venus, Mars, Jupiter, which fit you better?
https://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/planets-2/#venus

I tend to agree with your statement that an early Virgo Asc near Venus and Jupiter is most likely based on how you and others describe you and your gorgeous eyes. Also, your name 'head-in-clouds' and mothers' description reinforcing this indicates Jupiter and/or Neptune tendency. Neptune is nowhere near strong aspect to any possible Asc, so it is Jupiter. I think we need to find a Virgo-Jupiter combo that fits. I don't think we are looking at fire (Leo) upon fire (Jupiter).

So it might be useful to put your chart at 8° Virgo (3:32 AM) and watch the transits across/square/opposite that point. That Asc has the declination 8° North, which is parallel Venus at 9° N, and Jupiter back several degrees in the 12th house. If Jupiter were actually in closer conjunction or parallel your Asc, you'd more likely be taller (I'm assuming all your family aren't as short as you), and more outgoing than you seem to be.

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posted April 25, 2016 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for headintheclouds91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Kannon thank you so much for this. I completely agree with you on the fire upon fire is a bit too much fire for me and having all my air planets in earth houses and even my moon makes so much sense. I plan things long before its time and i like things to be precise in plans. Do you think having my cancer moon in the 10th house might explain why i got a cancerian feel to my appearance and why often people think i look like a cancer since the 10th house got something to do with how the public views you ? And jupiter on asc makes so much sense. I dont relate to the tallness of jupiter but personality i do. i like to share what i have learned and can be a bit preachy and can be a bit too honest for my own good sometimes and i am such a truth seeker too. I can also seem more optimistic and jovial than what i am. I relate to Virgo ascendants reservedness and shyness and their tendency to worry and i can nit pick sometimes too. I think it is a combo of virgo ascendant/jupiter definitively.

Edit: I think i am born closer to 03:45 am instead bc i just read up on transits for that time and it was more on point for me. What do you think ?

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posted April 26, 2016 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My first impression was Cancer. And in fact, I think that you very well could be Cancer rising, but the Asc would have to be in early Cancer, pushing the chart back to late the previous night -- not impossible at all. Don't conflate Asc with birth time. They are hinged together, but virtually never simultaneous. Asc around 8° Cancer conjunct Moon in 12th and closely opposite Uranus at 9° Cap. There is no possible Asc in Cancer during the bookends of midnight to 4 am.

When doing rectifications I take into account the 5-hour time window surrounding the birth where the correct Asc degree is found, which means for your time range I have to consider back to 7:30 PM the previous evening and as much as at least 1/2 hour after 4 AM.

But as far as appearance goes I agree with those who say Cancer. The Cancer rising person often has a cherubic/angelic, innocent look with an introverted, but 'others sensitive' personality. In you I think this is reinforced by Moon in Cancer close to the Asc. So even though this almost certainly triggers some doubts or incredulity, since common astrological practice equates time of delivery with correct Asc, this is a matter of matching up the real you with the real chart.

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posted April 27, 2016 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for headintheclouds91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Yes i can see myself in the cancer rising physical description and i agree that i look like one. But, i was wondering if moon in the 10th house can make someone look like a cancer aswell bc the 10th got something to do with how the public views you which might explain why i give out such a strong cancerian feel? I don't think i got a full blown cancer asc bc that rising and the placements of the planets in the houses around that time don't quite match up with experiences, personality etc etc. I think i got a virgo rising with some extroverted energy in the mix that makes me both shy and not so shy with new people.

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posted April 28, 2016 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by headintheclouds91:
Hello Yes i can see myself in the cancer rising physical description and i agree that i look like one. But, i was wondering if moon in the 10th house can make someone look like a cancer as well ...

No. The only hypothetical exception would be if Moon in Cancer were conjunct/parallel the MC and that were the tightest aspect by a planet to Asc/MC. Not so in your case as it would require a chart timed to about 6 AM. So the only way is if your mother's memory of the b.t. range is way off.

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I don't think i got a full blown cancer asc bc that rising and the placements of the planets in the houses around that time don't quite match up with experiences, personality etc etc. I think i got a virgo rising with some extroverted energy in the mix that makes me both shy and not so shy with new people.

You may be right about Virgo/Jupiter/Venus, but you're too young for enough life experiences necessary to use house positions as a measuring guide. Stick with personality characteristics in light of your choices for rising signs/aspects. Cancer rising in your case would be modified considerably by Uranus closely opposite the Asc. That always indicates an unusual Cancerian, emotional, but detached at the same time. And very, very often those folks are particularly interested in astrology.

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posted April 28, 2016 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for headintheclouds91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But i got uranus influence elsewhere in my chart though, like uranus oppose moon which can explain why i am like that. I don't come off unusual or weird with new people Its only after they have gotten to know me better they see my unusualness, hehe I checked my time around 3:45 am and i think that is pretty accurate for me, my mercury landed in my first house which can fit very well. Isn't mercury very versatile? If so having my mercury in the first house (the house of self/appearance) can explain why i change hairstyles and hair colors a lot. I eat fast, talk fast sometimes, i jump from topic to topic and always need to be on the move when i am out and hate staying in one place for a long period at a time unless we are in an engaging and exciting conversation then i don't mind staying a little longer. And i always have to have something to analyze too. And moon in the 10th can also show a mother that works a lot which my mom does and did while growing up.

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posted April 28, 2016 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by headintheclouds91:
But i got uranus influence elsewhere in my chart though, like uranus oppose moon which can explain why i am like that. I don't come off unusual or weird with new people Its only after they have gotten to know me better they see my unusualness, hehe I checked my time around 3:45 am and i think that is pretty accurate for me, my mercury landed in my first house which can fit very well. Isn't mercury very versatile? If so having my mercury in the first house (the house of self/appearance) can explain why i change hairstyles and hair colors a lot. I eat fast, talk fast sometimes, i jump from topic to topic and always need to be on the move when i am out and hate staying in one place for a long period at a time unless we are in an engaging and exciting conversation then i don't mind staying a little longer. And i always have to have something to analyze too. And moon in the 10th can also show a mother that works a lot which my mom does and did while growing up.

Okay - the tendency for analysis is very Virgoan. We're getting more of your personality coming out here. This is why I don't jump to the conclusion of a particular rising sign.

The other characteristics you mention like changing hair styles often, staying in motion, are characteristics associated with Cancer/Moon/Uranus. Your quicker tempo in activities does tend to favor Jupiter, however.

Watch your chart of choice and see how the fire planets have affected your chart/events with Jupiter this last year moving through Virgo, with Mars in Sag squaring a Virgo Asc later in summer ... and Saturn in Sag squaring possible Asc in Virgo the last several months and perhaps again this summer.

If you are a Virgoan analytic personality you should be good at this. Take notes as you watch events and your personality energy/motivation, etc.

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posted April 29, 2016 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for headintheclouds91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kannon i read your recent post in "Making Best Use of Saturn" and what you wrote fits very accurately for me and i am definitively thinking more now that i was born at 03:45 am. Transiting saturn is squaring my ascendant at that time which explains a lot of what has been going on for me in the last few months. Actually a lot of the transits at that time fits very well with what i have been going through. But i will certainly take more notes 👍

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posted May 02, 2016 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good stuff.

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