posted April 18, 2016 10:10 PM            

What are your needs in personal relationships?

Do you disappear and come back?

EDIT: added for new commenters
By needs in personal relationships, I mean with friends and family as well. Do you need a place to anchor yourself?
And by confrontation, to me it doesn't have to be a big betrayal or anything too dramatic; just daily happening.

It is said that pisces = escape ... How does that tie to your sense of nurturing?

posted April 19, 2016 12:19 AM            

I don't know about her other confrontations but I'm thinking of an instant where we had a heated argument on a road trip. Later on we calmed down, talking about it and she said I'm the only one who makes her physically angry. Thing is... I was feeling that way. I'm the triple Aries + other junk that makes me hot headed, so I think she was subconsciously just picking up all that energy.

She's a really good communicator but if you aren't paying attention or don't listen well she could easily turn the fault back on you.

posted April 19, 2016 05:11 AM            

If I get angry at a person it means I still care for them, because I feel really mad I turn ice cold both inside and outside and I just discard that person out of my life.

posted April 19, 2016 09:05 AM            

Strategically

What are your needs in personal relationships?

Reliability, understanding, kindness

Do you disappear and come back?

Sometimes I did, but I only came back half-heartedly.

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posted April 19, 2016 09:33 AM            

What are your needs in personal relationships?
Freedom, privacy, friendship, respect

Do you disappear and come back?
Mentally yes, I 'check out' when I'm stressed out or just need some time alone to reboot but I always come back

posted April 19, 2016 11:20 AM            

And by confrontation, to me it doesn't have to be a big betrayal or anything too dramatic; just daily happening.

It is said that pisces = escape ... How does that tie to your sense of nurturing?

I am trying to understand. No judgment here

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Originally posted by Faith:
Why do you ask, theunkown? Are you dating a Pisces moon?

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Hehe, I am just curious. Why does it have to be 'bout some dude.

posted April 19, 2016 12:18 PM            

That aside...

My cousin has a 4H Pisces moon (which along with his 8H Cancer Mars--conjunct Uranus--makes me think a painful way to commit suicide would be to harm or even threaten his family, and what I've seen of him as I grew up sure showed that), and with family, he may retreat to his room where he plays his guitar. It is well known that when he does that then LEAVE HIM ALONE. He'll come out fine later (and I was able to figure out what was bothering him just by listening). But mess with him and his Aries sun (and Sag ASC) will activate, and even his father learned to leave him alone when my cousin was a boy despite that his father normally didn't hesitate to use a belt on misbehaving kids, and thus shows me he was really intense that way even as a kid.

Threatening or abusing family (he also has a Taurus Venus, btw) is not tolerated (at least not by those outside the family). When I brought a tattooed racial minority with me to visit and they (including him) took us to my favorite restaurant, my friend came under harsh stares...and I became aware as I heard my Pisces moon cousin demand, "WHAT!?" Other male relatives joined him in staring down the other table until the others looked away. And he did that because my friend was my friend. Though he sometimes bullied and mistreated me growing up, he'd be enraged by anyone else who did so (when we were both kids, he once angrily told me, "No one torments you but me!" )

posted April 19, 2016 12:25 PM            

That said, those who are determined to torment her finds that she combines the brightest and most creative of both Aquarius and Pisces to get rid of them. They typically don't even know she was behind their extreme misfortune, and frankly, I'd be more scared to have her as a vengeful enemy than many who are violent. But she'd rather just tune you out until you went away, as long as she thinks that's an option.

Another has a 9H Pisces and he was born gentle but life made him hard. Even now he's gentle with animals but can be harsh with people...but he'd rather not be, and he's something of a hermit. He feels the pain of others and has compassion which he can express but he gets away from--or gets rid of--those he considers bad news or trying to take advantage of him. He has scars from where he used to be a vigilante and even got into a fight with several cops once, but he'd only seek out violence "for a higher purpose." He was once walking when some teens mistook him for homeless and tried to jump him, but he casually pulled a gun he carries (for people more than wild animals) and told them calmly to think about it (they did and ran). He's compassionate and would rather avoid violence, but he's neither spineless nor easily intimidated. But he is a hermit who prefers to minimize his contact with everyone who walks on two legs.

posted April 19, 2016 03:14 PM            

In some ways I feel like conflict is never about what it appears to be about. I do tend to think about everything underlying the words, and all the dynamics, and what is actually going on.

Sometimes people are telling me off but it seems like they are just wrestling with themselves and using me like an involuntary "sounding board."

So I deal with this in a removed way, it's more like a performance art than competition. Often I'm just wondering how to make that person feel better so they can leave me alone and feel good about themselves after they're gone.

Sometimes I feel like I want to teach them something, but in a very subtle way. Basically I think subtlety is my favorite way of communicating.

posted April 19, 2016 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Re: new questions

In some ways I feel like conflict is never about what it appears to be about. I do tend to think about everything underlying the words, and all the dynamics, and what is actually going on.

Sometimes people are telling me off but it seems like they are just wrestling with themselves and using me like an involuntary "sounding board."

So I deal with this in a removed way, it's more like a performance art than competition. Often I'm just wondering how to make that person feel better so they can leave me alone and feel good about themselves after they're gone.

Sometimes I feel like I want to teach them something, but in a very subtle way. Basically I think subtlety is my favorite way of communicating.

As for escapism, honestly I can only handle so much, so I disconnect. I try to make up for it by giving extra when I reconnect. It just gets bad if I am downtrodden and cannot muster the energy to give back extra. Fortunately I have good taste in friends so at least my friends will not care if I drop off the face of the earth for a while. They know my intentions towards them are always positive.

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This explains me exactly as well!

posted April 19, 2016 10:40 PM            

Well, I'd say that is more of my Cap stellium. Even if I'm bothered by something, I won't directly show it and keep a poker face. I'm a big believer in having constructive dialogue, so each person having a moment to speak in a respectful, professional manner is important. In close relationships, plays out the same.

Needs in personal relationships

Honesty, trust, and communication. I do need a little bit of space because I am an Aqua after all, but the Pisces Moon in me loves company and can't stay alone for too long. I tend to do more nurturing than I receive, which is something I have to actively work on to ensure I don't get burned out.

Disappear and come back?

Lol, yeah. I've been doing it on this site lately, come in a few weeks, drop the next. When it comes to personal relationships though, I've never dropped people that I care about or value. Even if communication is stilted for a while, eventually someone drops a line and it picks back up again.

posted April 20, 2016 12:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Re: new questions

In some ways I feel like conflict is never about what it appears to be about. I do tend to think about everything underlying the words, and all the dynamics, and what is actually going on.

Sometimes people are telling me off but it seems like they are just wrestling with themselves and using me like an involuntary "sounding board."

So I deal with this in a removed way, it's more like a performance art than competition. Often I'm just wondering how to make that person feel better so they can leave me alone and feel good about themselves after they're gone.

Sometimes I feel like I want to teach them something, but in a very subtle way. Basically I think subtlety is my favorite way of communicating.

As for escapism, honestly I can only handle so much, so I disconnect. I try to make up for it by giving extra when I reconnect. It just gets bad if I am downtrodden and cannot muster the energy to give back extra. Fortunately I have good taste in friends so at least my friends will not care if I drop off the face of the earth for a while. They know my intentions towards them are always positive.

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posted April 20, 2016 12:57 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
How do you act when confronted?

What are your needs in personal relationships?

Do you disappear and come back?

EDIT: added for new commenters
By needs in personal relationships, I mean with friends and family as well. Do you need a place to anchor yourself?
And by confrontation, to me it doesn't have to be a big betrayal or anything too dramatic; just daily happening.

It is said that pisces = escape ... How does that tie to your sense of nurturing?

I am trying to understand. No judgment here

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1. It depends - but do not like confrontations,they stress me out,even internet ones xD But that dosent mean i will let them bully me and stemp on me,i will lash out ,esspecialy if i have to protect a family member,friend or an idea i strongly belive in

2. I need freedom yet closeness - i guess emotional and social diversity

3. I often like to isolate myself,phisicaly or mentaly

posted April 20, 2016 01:53 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
You seem to have a very good grasp of your emotional process

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Well it's instinctual and happens pretty fast, but I'd say conflict is more of a mental process for me. And I tend to act on principle.

My emotions aren't that prominent, in an argument.

@Chelsey & VirgoPill - Glad if I made sense earlier.

posted April 21, 2016 05:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Well it's instinctual and happens pretty fast, but I'd say conflict is more of a mental process for me. And I tend to act on principle.

My emotions aren't that prominent, in an argument.

@Chelsey & VirgoPill - Glad if I made sense earlier.

@Bella - HI

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posted April 21, 2016 11:51 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
She's a really good communicator but if you aren't paying attention or don't listen well she could easily turn the fault back on you.

Sometimes she will disappear but she doesn't stay hurt for very long. She flows with it a lot better than I do as a Taurus moon.

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Originally posted by jupitersgirl:
I can get angry quickly but I also calm down quite quickly)(unwanted automatic empathy makes me understand the other side fast so the argument makes no sense to me after a while and I get bored and try to get out, but I get so angry so fast and speak in a very harsh way the other side usually does not want to end the argument when I do). I don't hold grudges. I can get very sharp tongued.
I need peace and sincerity in personal relationships.

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Originally posted by -Chelsey-:
How do you act when confronted?
Stand offish, quiet, shut down -or- I'll get mad and defensive, can be very cold

What are your needs in personal relationships?
Freedom, privacy, friendship, respect

Do you disappear and come back?
Mentally yes, I 'check out' when I'm stressed out or just need some time alone to reboot but I always come back

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
An interesting thing I've noticed about Pisces, especially Pisces moon: they tend to absorb and express the energy around them. If most people don't want drama, then the Pisces moon will avoid it as well, but stick them among the more violent segments of society then they'll also become quick to violence.

I suppose the one thing they all have in common is that they all have moments that they need to be alone, some more so than others.

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Keep in mind, they're not only processing their own energy, but that of everyone else around them as well.

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Originally posted by Faith:
Re: new questions

In some ways I feel like conflict is never about what it appears to be about. I do tend to think about everything underlying the words, and all the dynamics, and what is actually going on.

Sometimes people are telling me off but it seems like they are just wrestling with themselves and using me like an involuntary "sounding board."

So I deal with this in a removed way, it's more like a performance art than competition. Often I'm just wondering how to make that person feel better so they can leave me alone and feel good about themselves after they're gone.

Sometimes I feel like I want to teach them something, but in a very subtle way. Basically I think subtlety is my favorite way of communicating.

As for escapism, honestly I can only handle so much, so I disconnect. I try to make up for it by giving extra when I reconnect. It just gets bad if I am downtrodden and cannot muster the energy to give back extra. Fortunately I have good taste in friends so at least my friends will not care if I drop off the face of the earth for a while. They know my intentions towards them are always positive.

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Originally posted by Hemilla:
1. It depends - but do not like confrontations,they stress me out,even internet ones xD But that dosent mean i will let them bully me and stemp on me,i will lash out ,esspecialy if i have to protect a family member,friend or an idea i strongly belive in

2. I need freedom yet closeness - i guess emotional and social diversity

3. I often like to isolate myself,phisicaly or mentaly

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what do you do when you isolate yourself? by diversity, do you mean you do get bored with the same people?

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
[b]Act when confronted

Well, I'd say that is more of my Cap stellium. Even if I'm bothered by something, I won't directly show it and keep a poker face. I'm a big believer in having constructive dialogue, so each person having a moment to speak in a respectful, professional manner is important. In close relationships, plays out the same.

Needs in personal relationships

Honesty, trust, and communication. I do need a little bit of space because I am an Aqua after all, but the Pisces Moon in me loves company and can't stay alone for too long. I tend to do more nurturing than I receive, which is something I have to actively work on to ensure I don't get burned out.

Disappear and come back?

Lol, yeah. I've been doing it on this site lately, come in a few weeks, drop the next. When it comes to personal relationships though, I've never dropped people that I care about or value. Even if communication is stilted for a while, eventually someone drops a line and it picks back up again.

Alone time is very important to me, since the Pisces Moon in me needs time to compress and get away from the outside world. [/B]

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posted April 21, 2016 12:40 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
it is considered a common position for visionaries and serial killers

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posted April 21, 2016 12:56 PM            

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what if the person who challenges you is responding to who you are and not using you as a sounding board? I mean in daily relationship, we all wrestle with ourselves but we also have problems come directly from others that encourage that too. No?
Again, I am just curious about different scenarios

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Well, if I agree with them, I just take the hit.

You know, one thing about the Pisces moon is, from the time we are young, we are constantly trying to see the other person's point of view. Look at the world through others' eyes. So I'm open to hearing what they have to say, often empathic towards them, if they find me hard to deal with.

If I actually did something wrong and got caught, the only way to salvage some dignity is by owning up to it. And I think because my ego is kind of nebulous, I don't feel like I have to preserve a pristine image of myself, in order to stay happy ~ it can make me happy to think of other people being good ~ keeping my focus on the collective goodness of life and other people keeps me anchored, more than considering my own identity, habits, history. So accusations often don't even bother me.

Many times when it comes to a conflict, either the person is challenging me because I did something accidentally offensive, or they just want to control me in some way.

Neither situation calls for "confrontation" as far as I'm concerned.

So if someone is huffy, I consider that to be their habit, their projection, their issue.

In the event that the tables are turned and I am confronting them, usually it's on the basis of principle. Pisces moons will often go after the ones we see threatening the whole group. I mean, Bella and I have fought side by side against bigotry on this site before. Aquacheeka (Pisces moon) was banned for fighting against it so hard, to the point where she was more hostile than the person she was fighting against.

When I was new to this site I could have seen that happening to me.

posted April 21, 2016 01:06 PM            

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Originally posted by VirgoPILL:
i'm grateful for your comments always because i tend to confuse myself with too much BS then here you come with a clear-headed comment and everything makes sense again ))

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posted April 21, 2016 04:35 PM            

Idk i paint,write,watch tv,be on pc - i just need not to think of people and be sorounded with people - i guess because of my Venus,Sun,Mercury in Gemini in 11th house i feel like i need to be one keeping people interested and i need to be active converionalist - so i need a brake from people,i need a brake from talking,laughing and making people talk and laugh - i just need to be quiet and comfortable with silence (wich i cant be when there are people around me)