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Ami Anne
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posted April 22, 2016 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ten Danger Zone Aspects

I do not mean danger, as in life or death. I mean danger, as in the yellow light——-CAUTION. However, few of us learn our lessons the easy way. I don’t. I learn by falling in the same hole, over and over. Hopefully, little by little, I fall in less and less, until I walk around it—classic Ziggy. Seriously, though, there are danger aspects and let’s explore some of them.


1. Neptune Square Venus

This native, through no fault of her own finds the frog and makes him into a prince. Find a few trusted friends, who have keen acumen, and let them give you their opinions and LISTEN

2. Lucifer Conjunct the Ascendant or Sun

You do not need to be the best, have the best opinion or be the smartest. You can accept yourself as a flawed human. You will make more friends with humility than arrogance. Humility takes the ability to listen and face oneself, so do so, and you will feel much better( as will those who are around you)

3. Dejanira Conjunct the Ascendant or Moon

Try to assess the way you talk to yourself. With these placements, you may feel very lowly about yourself. It is not true. You were made to rise, not fall. You were made to shine, not hunker in the corner. Dejanira can make for a high does of low self esteem, which is no fun. Try, Try, Try to love yourself. You are only human and we all are so very flawed. You are not worse.

4. Nemesis Conjunt the Moon

Your mother may have been a secret enemy i.e undermining you. You may have adversarial relationships with women, as a result of a basic mistrust of them. Try to realize that not all women are the same. This applies to every group of people, of course. You will have to challenge your own instinctive reactions here.

5. Nemesis Conjunct the Sun

Your dad may have been a secret enemy, undermining you in covert ways *Sigh* You may expect this behavior from men, hence fostering that of which you are afraid.

6. Earth Void

This is mine. I am a true earth void. No planets at all in earth, although I do have some planets in earth houses, which does help. We need a few grounded friends and family to help us organize the simplest thing. Also, be kind and call a week ahead if you want to visit.

7. Chaos conjunct the Sun or Ascendant

You may stir up drama/trouble, without being aware of it, of course. You may tend to carry the Pig Pen cloud of dust a la Charlie Brown. As with most things, we need an honest friend to tell us the truth about ourselves. This friend is worth more than gold. Find someone and LISTEN. No chart is the fault of the native. God gave us our charts and only He knows why, but God is love!

8. Unaspected Moon

You do so much for everyone else, but forget about yourself. You are, probably, an amazing friend and family member. Learning the balance of giving to others and taking care of ourselves is hard for anyone, but for the Unaspected Moon, it is much harder.


9. Saturn Conjunct Venus

Saturn can make one hard on oneself. Hence, when Saturn touches Venus in a conjunction or hard aspect, we may have a person who is a gorgeous swan but sees every flaw of the ugly duckling. Her lesson is that you don’t have to be perfect to be lovable.

10. Chiron Conjunct the Sun

This native may have had a very, very painful relationship with his father. The way the father talked to him seems to be embedded in his mind and becomes his manner of self talk. I am sure we can all relate, but this native has a harder struggle than many.

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posted April 22, 2016 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too have an Earth void, along with 6 air planets lol.

Luckily I have Saturn in the 6th, but I also have Pluto and Chiron conjunct in the second, and a 10th house Leo N.N. Helps I guess lol

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posted April 22, 2016 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I too have an Earth void, along with 6 air planets lol.

Luckily I have Saturn in the 6th, but I also have Pluto and Chiron conjunct in the second, and a 10th house Leo N.N. Helps I guess lol



I have an air stelliurm, too--Gemini. No wonder we get along so well!

How do you feel the earth void, E?

There was a lady who was helping me clean my house.

I had all these jars in a cabinet and was looking at them with drool coming down the side of my face, trying to figure out how to organize them.


I could feel the wheels turning in her head thinking "this chick is an idiot"


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posted April 22, 2016 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I have an air stelliurm, too--Gemini. No wonder we get along so well!

How do you feel the earth void, E?

There was a lady who was helping me clean my house.
I had all these jars in a cabinet and was looking at them with drool coming down the side of my face, trying to figure out how to organize them.


I could feel the wheels turning in her head,"what an idiot"



Lol that is funny. I have a Aquarius Stellium of 5 and a Gemini Moon (Moon conjunctions?) It sits at 9 55' Gemini.

I am always on the go and never make plans; impossible for me lol. I tell my mom stuff at the last minute and she freaks out while I'm just like "What? We can just drive to the store and pick it up?" And she goes on about all these different details and I'm just lost in thought thanks to Neptune conjunct Mercury lol .

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posted April 22, 2016 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Moon conj my venus. How cool, E!

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posted April 22, 2016 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my dad has sun conjunct lucifer.. that explains why he is so cruel?

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posted April 22, 2016 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by awakemer:
my dad has sun conjunct lucifer.. that explains why he is so cruel?

Lucifer is not cruel. Lucifer is lack of humility/ like a "know it all"----i.e an egomaniac with an inferiority complex, to put it into simple words lol

Is he like this?

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posted April 22, 2016 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he is pretty narcissitic. A lot of arrogant people who lack humility are pretty closed in the heart so cruetly and arrogance to me is synonymous. He thinks he is king and god's gift. He has the pluto sun square tooo

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posted April 22, 2016 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A lot of arrogant people who lack humility are pretty closed in the heart so cruetly and arrogance to me is synonymous

VERY true, my Friend, and they are the last to know.

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posted April 22, 2016 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:


trying to figure out how to organize them.




quote:
Originally posted by Electro DGX:

never make plans; impossible for me lol. I tell my mom stuff at the last minute and she freaks out while I'm just like "What? We can just drive to the store and pick it up?" And she goes on about all these different details and I'm just lost in thought



LOL these two happen to me, exactly!!!!
Totally laughed out with the mom part in particular, no clue why it happens to me and my mom, too! (she is a Virgo btw, so...imagine ! ).
I am not a literal earth void, but my only earth planet is my unaspected Moon in Virgo 10 56'. But I have a Cap Asc, too, so I guess I can't be considered an earth void. But why I resonated soooo much with these two statements? lol


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posted April 22, 2016 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LOL these two happen to me, exactly!!!!
Totally laughed out with the mom part in particular, no clue why this is.
I am not a literal earth void, but my only earth planet is my unaspected Moon in Virgo 10 56'. But I have a Cap Asc, too, so I guess I can't be considered an earth void. But why I resonated soooo much with these two statements? lol


Maybe because your Virgo Moon is secretly dreading them and your natural reaction to that was to laugh? Sounds weird but could be possible lol

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posted April 22, 2016 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Maybe because your Virgo Moon is secretly dreading them and your natural reaction to that was to laugh? Sounds weird but could be possible lol

LOL, I cant' say I understood what you meant, sorry
Not a native speaker, I found "dread" means terrified (like dreadful, hello???!!!! lol ), but how this fits?
I am terrified of these reactions, yes, but because these incidents happen to me a lot, too!!!!!!!
Did I misunderstood something you said?

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posted April 22, 2016 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LOL, I cant' say I understood what you meant, sorry
Not a native speaker, I found "dread" means terrified (like dreadful, hello???!!!! lol ), but how this fits?
I am terrified of these reactions, yes, but because these incidents happen to me a lot, too!!!!!!!
Did I misunderstood something you said?

I think a better word would've been resented/disgusted by. It would've somehow invoked a strange reaction from yourself lol. That's my analysis (albeit it is a bit corky lol). Dread does mean fearful but I assumed it to mean disgust lol.

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posted April 22, 2016 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I think a better word would've been resented/disgusted by. It would've somehow invoked a strange reaction from yourself lol. That's my analysis (albeit it is a bit corky lol).


No, not at all.
Like I said, I am awful with program/planning etc., I do most of things in the last minute, I don;t feel well restricted in a too stable and monotonous routine, I am very messy, although I am a good cleaner (when I manage to find the strength to be lol), etc etc.
Uranus trine Sun exact
Uranus trine Mercury
Mars sextile Neptune exact
Asc on the Cap/Aqua cusp.
Neptune as part of a yod
Neptune on my Asc/MC midpoint
hmmmm...don't know any other possible explanations about me and not doing well with routine and mundane stuff lol
maybe SN in 12th house?!?!?


...or maybe I misunderstood what you meant...again
nevermind, hahahahaha

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What about Neptune? I could see Neptune as also being a potential player in disorganization since Neptune = Pisces and Pisces is opposite clean, nitpicky Virgo. Piscean indicators could very well indicate a lack of structure/organization.

EDIT: Just saw you added it. Can you list your elements in the order of dominance?

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
What about Neptune? I could see Neptune as also being a potential player in disorganization since Neptune = Pisces and Pisces is opposite clean, nitpicky Virgo. Piscean indicators could very well indicate a lack of structure/organization.

EDIT: Just saw you added it.



Haha, yes, maybe, I have thought of Neptune of possible indicator, but I don;t think Neptune is sooo strong in my chart anyway..
I learned about Neptune as part of a yod
Neptune on my Asc/MC midpoint just a while ago, so go figure...hahahahaha
I really have no clue yet, but I guess it isn;t the biggest "player" in my chart anyway, I have mush stronger Pluto and secondly Uranus than Neptune..
Anyway, so much about my natal, hahahahaha
Thanks for your comment!

Interesting thread Ami!


ETA : I just saw that, too! lol
"Can you list your elements in the order of dominance?"
Yes, this is by pullen/astrolog in astro :
Element Power Percent
Fire: 183.9 / 28.1%

Earth: 93.0 / 14.2%

Air: 185.7 / 28.4%

Water: 191.5 / 29.3%

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LOL these two happen to me, exactly!!!!
totally laughed out with the mom part in particular, no clue why it happens to me and my mom, too! (she is a Virgo btw, so...imagine ! ).
I am not a literal earth void, but my only earth planet is my unaspected Moon in Virgo 10 56'. But I have a Cap Asc, too, so I guess I can't be considered an earth void. But why I resonated soooo much with these two statements? lol

Mar, you have the hard situation of looking super earth like-practical, good with details and the affairs of the practical earth, but you are NOT!

When there is a void( or almost void) and the ASC is the void element, the person feels kind of schitzy.

People expect her to be earth like, but down deep, she is not.

My son is a Virgo and we really, really help each other.

He teaches me systems and I teach him creativity lol

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
What about Neptune? I could see Neptune as also being a potential player in disorganization since Neptune = Pisces and Pisces is opposite clean, nitpicky Virgo. Piscean indicators could very well indicate a lack of structure/organization.

EDIT: Just saw you added it. Can you list your elements in the order of dominance?



Well, Neptune is more "fogged" than disordered

The "fog' can be amazing, like in creative genius, in which the practical world is fogged and one taps into the mystical

Neptune can make for great deception, in which people believe lies that hurt them, such as a really bad person is not really bad etc

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posted April 22, 2016 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mar1982delta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
LOL these two happen to me, exactly!!!!
[b]totally laughed out with the mom part in particular, no clue why it happens to me and my mom, too! (she is a Virgo btw, so...imagine ! ).
I am not a literal earth void, but my only earth planet is my unaspected Moon in Virgo 10 56'. But I have a Cap Asc, too, so I guess I can't be considered an earth void. But why I resonated soooo much with these two statements? lol

Mar, you have the hard situation of looking super earth like-practical, good with details and the affairs of the practical earth, but you are NOT!

When there is a void( or almost void) and the ASC is the void element, the person feels kind of schitzy.

People expect her to be earth like, but down deep, she is not.

My son is a Virgo and we really, really help each other.

He teaches me systems and I teach him creativity lol

[/B]



Haha, Ami, this is so cool, because you just pinpointed my whole "misunderstanding" between me and my parents since I was a kid lol!


"looking super earth like-practical, good with details and the affairs of the practical earth, but you are NOT!"
Yes, totally, I was top student in my class and like the "good" kid when I was a little and a teenager, so my parents thought that I was practical and with both feet on earth lol!

But I have come to realize that I was never like that in fact!
And yes, it felt like "the person feels kind of schitzy.", because there was the image of me that my parents had on the one hand and me in real life/my image of myself on the other hand...so I kept thinking "wtf??!!! why am I like this? why am I not like I was as a child?" lol
I think the fact that I were a good student etc., it was simply my 9th house stellium speaking and my love for knowledge..
When I grew older and finished school, university etc.. my UN-practical self totally came to surface!!!
Pretty spot-on comment, thank you!!!


eta : And yes, I am really good with details, that's true! Like in all the other stuff in my life, except "routine" stuff, haha! But whenever (rarely lol) I decide to use my virgo Moon, I can be detailed in cleaning, too, hahahahahaha

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posted April 22, 2016 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, my Friend. You made my night by my being able to give you something of value. I have a 9th House stellium, too! xx

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You made my night ...


I have a 9th House stellium, too! xx



Ohhh, you are so sweet Ami!
Yes, this 9th house (Mars, Pluto in Libra and Jupiter in Scorpio) is a gem, I am glad I have that! It's kind of a relief, because I think this double libra stellium might have killed me othwerwise (7th house stellium - Sun in Leo, Mercury in Cancer, Moon in Virgo/ plus another stellium of libra planets - Mars, Pluto, Saturn)
No offence to libras, I just think libra is a bit overloaded in my chart, at least at a first glance
Thanks again!


ETA : "My son is a Virgo and we really, really help each other.

He teaches me systems and I teach him creativity lol"
That's nice, about you and your son!!!


ETA 2 : Ami, in which house is your NN, if I may ask? I wonder about your placements since it seems you really like helping people!

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"1. Neptune Square Venus

This native, through no fault of her own finds the frog and makes him into a prince. Find a few trusted friends, who have keen acumen, and let them give you their opinions and LISTEN"

Ami, maybe you could elaborate on that a bit, too?
I know a person that has it, so I am interested in all the possible ways it can manifest lol!
Is Neptune manifested only as self-deception or as deception, too?
Yeah, I know, it's obvious why I ask, hahahaha
Thank you!

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I have NN in the 3rd in Saggi but I think my liking to help people is a Grand trine of the ASC, Chiron and Venus.

I seem to help people through my pain and being honest about it--Cancer Moon conj the MC.

I really don't know how to lie

Anything on my website, I have been through lol

Also, it truly is more blessed( happy) to give than to receive.

I try to develop a spirit of giving.

When I am low, people ALWAYS lift me up.

It goes around and comes back to me lol

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
"1. Neptune Square Venus

This native, through no fault of her own finds the frog and makes him into a prince. Find a few trusted friends, who have keen acumen, and let them give you their opinions and LISTEN"

Ami, maybe you could elaborate on that a bit, too?
I know a person that has it, so I am interested in all the possible ways it can manifest lol!
Is Neptune manifested only as self-deception or as deception, too?
Yeah, I know, it's obvious why I ask, hahahaha
Thank you!


Neptune FOGS.

How it fogs depends on the aspects.

It can do a number of different things--some good and some bad.

For example, neptune conj the ASC can make it hard to have a solid sense of self.

neptune in trines is amazing creativity

neptune in squares can be a stuck kind of fogging

For example neptune square Venus may fog when it comes to love, so that one cannot see the partner, literally, until one has gone too far.

Neptune can BLIND

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posted April 22, 2016 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune can blind one to oneself and/or others.

The aspects would tell us how this would play out xxx

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