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Sccs
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posted April 27, 2016 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sccs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My life seems to be very uranian, the way I my conduct it, especialy my behavior towards work. Also with people.

If I take a step backward and look at my life, I see Uranus influence.

And yet in my chart no aquarius, no H11, and only Uranus opposed to Jupiter. Uranus is exact conjuct asteroid Karma but can it be that significant ?!

Do you identify with a sign or a planet not that present in your chart?

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Electro DGX
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posted April 27, 2016 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Describe what you're seeing as the Uranian influence, and describe where Uranus is in your chart. This may help in determining the reason for this.

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Sccs
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posted April 27, 2016 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sccs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus Capricorn H6 opposed to Jupiter and exact conjuct asteroid Karma.

I often change work, I cant have a "normal" stable job for long. And usualy people trust me and see me as a very serious person (cap moon) and then all of sudden I quit because I literaly feel oppressed and just cant.
With people I would describe myself as a social loner. Im extremely independant but people can rely on me I feel like an outsider but Im social ( but im also sag rising cancer that could explain), I go traveling for long periods of time I talk to people live very intense moments with people I meet but I dont dwell on anything or anyone, I talk to my friends and I have moments when I just stop talking to anyone, I dont really miss anyone ever, but I still feel love deeply Im very intense and yet so detached.
And very very often in every situation I feel oppressed and feel the need to just break everything and problem is I often do it. My life is full of unexpected twist, changes, Since I was a kid I never believed in any kind of group beliefs I dont believe in society, religion, I follow my own rules.
My relationship with my longtime boyfriend is also like that.
And my obsession, my goal is to create alternatives for the common good. which is the only thing I can commit to in terms of work.

I feel like I talked a lot about me haha but this is what I would consider uranian about me, but maybe its not ?

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Electro DGX
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posted April 27, 2016 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm still not entirely sure. If you don't mind, could you post your chart here? It would be easier for me to get a better look into the possibilities that may exist that are causing you to feel this way.

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DopGang
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posted April 27, 2016 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No matter what each sign plays a role somewhere in your chart, in a house.

You could also start looking at aspects to depositors/rulers.
So, if I'm thinking of this correctly, Gemini is your 11th?
So then how is mercury? Where is mercury? Just bounce around with things like that.

Look at decans also.

Another idea still is to look at your draconic.
Also check declination.
(Additional tables PDF link on astro - within a couple degrees at most)

When I look at all of those in my own chart I have "Uranian" all over the place! (An aqua stellium in draconic for example)

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Sccs
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posted April 27, 2016 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sccs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much,
Here is my chart!

[IMG]http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/30299013120607101567614731452621700563299o.jpg[/ IMG]

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Sccs
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posted April 27, 2016 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sccs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
No matter what each sign plays a role somewhere in your chart, in a house.

You could also start looking at aspects to depositors/rulers.
So, if I'm thinking of this correctly, Gemini is your 11th?
So then how is mercury? Where is mercury? Just bounce around with things like that.

Look at decans also.

Another idea still is to look at your draconic.
Also check declination.
(Additional tables PDF link on astro - within a couple degrees at most)

When I look at all of those in my own chart I have "Uranian" all over the place! (An aqua stellium in draconic for example)


interesting! Thank you!!
Im checking right now draconic and declination

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Electro DGX
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posted April 27, 2016 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right off the bat, the Aquarius North Node shows a development of a Karmic destiny with Uranian influences. Your goal in this life is to become more Uranian! It being in the 8th house also explains the intense moments you may be having with people.

Vertex in the 11th can also bring you a lot of Uranian influences. Vesta in Aquarius can also bring out your Uranian potential, since it is our strengths (haven't studied much on Vesta).

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Sccs
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posted April 27, 2016 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sccs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Right off the bat, the Aquarius North Node shows a development of a Karmic destiny with Uranian influences. Your goal in this life is to become more Uranian! It being in the 8th house also explains the intense moments you may be having with people.

antivertex in the 11th can also bring you a lot of Uranian influences. Vesta in Aquarius can also bring out your Uranian potential, since it is our strengths (haven't studied much on Vesta).


Vertex in 11h
NN in Aquarius
Karma asteroid exact conjuct Uranus

And I just check my draconic chart I indeed have a stellium in Aquarius: Mercury, uranus, neptune, saturn and moon

So those important karmic indicators are strongly influenced by uranus and aquarius. It is very interesting.
I do feel like this uranian energy is coming from "outside" and I have to integrate it, that is very helpful to be aware of that!

Thank you very much!!

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margym0o
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posted April 27, 2016 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Leo Venus in the 11th and I really don't know how this manifests in my life. My Venus makes aspects only to Saturn by trine and Pluto by square (both almost exact) so not that well aspected to begin with. I don't really feel the Aquarian nature of the 11th house pertaining to friendships and social groups and certainly not my Venus under this influence.

I am actually more of a homebody and keep only a very few close friends (that I don't even see that often). I don't participate in any social groups or belong to any clubs nor do I have any desire to.

I guess I can see my desire to be "friends" with my partner peaking through as a sort of Aquarian influence but other than that I am stumped.

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Faith
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posted April 27, 2016 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sccs:
Thank you very much,
Here is my chart!

[IMG]http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/30299013120607101567614731452621700563299o.jpg[/ IMG]


The ruler of your sun is Jupiter, and Jupiter opposes Uranus.

The ruler of your chart is the moon in Capricorn, disposited by Saturn, which is conjunct Uranus.

Uranus is also square your MC so it affects your public persona.

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Sccs
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posted April 27, 2016 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sccs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
The ruler of your sun is Jupiter, and Jupiter opposes Uranus.

The ruler of your chart is the moon in Capricorn, disposited by Saturn, which is conjunct Uranus.

Uranus is also square your MC so it affects your public persona.


Thank you!
I have never really paid attention to rulers and depositors in one's chart because I couldnt understand how it would affect the person.
But now it is clear in my own chart.
I will pay more attention to that, it is significative!!

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Nyctea
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posted April 27, 2016 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nyctea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sccs:
My life seems to be very uranian, the way I my conduct it, especialy my behavior towards work. Also with people.

The first thing that came to my mind was Uranus in the 6th. The 6th house does that because it's also about routines, 'daily basis'. Having to deal with outer planets in the 6th can be tough at times.

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nordicsoul
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posted April 27, 2016 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sccs:
Uranus Capricorn H6 opposed to Jupiter and exact conjuct asteroid Karma.

I often change work, I cant have a "normal" stable job for long. And usualy people trust me and see me as a very serious person (cap moon) and then all of sudden I quit because I literaly feel oppressed and just cant.
With people I would describe myself as a social loner. Im extremely independant but people can rely on me I feel like an outsider but Im social ( but im also sag rising cancer that could explain), I go traveling for long periods of time I talk to people live very intense moments with people I meet but I dont dwell on anything or anyone, I talk to my friends and I have moments when I just stop talking to anyone, I dont really miss anyone ever, but I still feel love deeply Im very intense and yet so detached.
And very very often in every situation I feel oppressed and feel the need to just break everything and problem is I often do it. My life is full of unexpected twist, changes, Since I was a kid I never believed in any kind of group beliefs I dont believe in society, religion, I follow my own rules.
My relationship with my longtime boyfriend is also like that.
And my obsession, my goal is to create alternatives for the common good. which is the only thing I can commit to in terms of work.

I feel like I talked a lot about me haha but this is what I would consider uranian about me, but maybe its not ?


wondering if the fact that your chart ruler jupiter in opposition to uranus makes uraruns strong in your chart. anything touched by jupiter is expanded in the chart. and if that is your chart ruler... then uranus may have more importance than you think.. i guess

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nordicsoul
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posted April 27, 2016 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sccs:
Uranus Capricorn H6 opposed to Jupiter and exact conjuct asteroid Karma.

Since I was a kid I never believed in any kind of group beliefs I dont believe in society, religion, I follow my own rules.
My relationship with my longtime boyfriend is also like that.
And my obsession, my goal is to create alternatives for the common good. which is the only thing I can commit to in terms of work.

I feel like I talked a lot about me haha but this is what I would consider uranian about me, but maybe its not ?


i cannot think of anything that describe better jupiter in hard aspect to uranus.. jupiter belief and uranus creating your own rules...

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diamondbaby
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posted April 27, 2016 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sccs:
Vertex in 11h
NN in Aquarius
Karma asteroid exact conjuct Uranus

And I just check my draconic chart I indeed have a stellium in Aquarius: Mercury, uranus, neptune, saturn and moon

So those important karmic indicators are strongly influenced by uranus and aquarius. It is very interesting.
I do feel like this uranian energy is coming from "outside" and I have to integrate it, that is very helpful to be aware of that!

Thank you very much!!


Your Vertex is in Sagittarius, in the 5th house conjunct your Sun.

It's your Part of Fortune (Pars Fortunae) that is in your 11th house in Gemini.


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diamondbaby
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posted April 27, 2016 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Right off the bat, the Aquarius North Node shows a development of a Karmic destiny with Uranian influences. Your goal in this life is to become more Uranian! It being in the 8th house also explains the intense moments you may be having with people.

Vertex in the 11th can also bring you a lot of Uranian influences. Vesta in Aquarius can also bring out your Uranian potential, since it is our strengths (haven't studied much on Vesta).


His/her Vertex is in the 5th. His/her Part of Fortune is in the 11th though.

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missblyss
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posted April 27, 2016 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should look up vault of the stars and see your nakshatras, maybe some of your main ones are Aquarian ruled

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Electro DGX
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posted April 27, 2016 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by diamondbaby:
His/her Vertex is in the 5th. His/her Part of Fortune is in the 11th though.

You're right, I mistook the Part of Fortune for the Vertex

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diamondbaby
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posted April 27, 2016 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Part of Fortune in the 11th house can very well be one of the reasons why you feel "uranian". After all Aquarius/Uranus/11th house represents the very same archetype.

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posted April 28, 2016 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sccs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vertex is in the 5th so Anti vertex is in the 11th!

I have to explore about the part of fortune, dont know much about it!

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Sccs
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posted April 28, 2016 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sccs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree Nordicsoul, I think this Jupiter opposition to Uranus is significant. Also because its in cancer/capricorn and that they are important in my chart I guess!

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diamondbaby
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posted April 28, 2016 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sccs:
Vertex is in the 5th so Anti vertex is in the 11th!

I have to explore about the part of fortune, dont know much about it!


Vertex and Anti Vertex are significant mainly in synastry readings, as they show what we are attracted to. In my opinion, they don't really tell much about our own personality.

Part of Fortune, however, is a very personal point in the natal chart, as it is calculated from the position of the Sun, Moon, and Ascendant. It indicates the area in the natal chart where the we feel that "good fortune" is smiling on us. It's an area of life we are naturally drawn to, and when this energy is expressed, we experience a sense of harmony and well-being.

My Part of Fortune is in Sagittarius in the 5th house, it also conjuncts my Sun. I truly feel the best and the luckiest when I express my "Sagittarius Sun" self in the 5th house areas of life.

PoF in Gemini in the 11th house adds serious air energy to your natal chart (Gemini is an air sign and the 11th house is an air house) so getting to know what Part of Fortune means on a deeper level might reveals why your feel so "uranian".

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Kannon McAfee
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posted April 28, 2016 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sccs, this is a clue to look at your declinations. No, it has nothing to do with any asteroid.

Yes, I identify entirely with Chiron, which is in my 7th house, [b]but which at 5N32 declination is parallel my Asc at 5N03.

Astrological influences are not limited to what is shown on flat wheel charts, which display only east-west movement. ALL the planets also move north and south, shown by their declination positions.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted April 28, 2016 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quickly reverse engineering your planetary positions from the circle chart you posted, I can see ...

Uranus 23S39 Contra-Parallel Jupiter 22N57

... and ...

Uranus Parallel Venus 24S08, which is where your values system, affections and manner of loving take on a Uranian flavor.


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