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Topic: Elsewhere, on some draconic thread....
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 17496 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 30, 2016 05:39 PM
Five minutes ago on another thread... quote: Originally posted by Elysia: Awww... Okay, let's pick this up elsewhere on some Draco thread..
Sure, okay! But seriously I have an important question, for LL people: Have your draconic placements shifted? I'm staring at my draconic chart and everything is one degree further ahead than before. I'm positive my data is entered right. Does anyone know what that's about? EDIT: Thank you Ceri for pointing out my chart might be set to MEAN node. Yes, true. Ignore me, everyone! IP: Logged |
Elysia Knowflake Posts: 1284 From: Gotham Registered: Aug 2015
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posted April 30, 2016 05:44 PM
Well, aren't you a delight!? What is this we hear about a one degree shift? I haven't seen my Draco chart in a while, will go check... IP: Logged |
Elysia Knowflake Posts: 1284 From: Gotham Registered: Aug 2015
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posted April 30, 2016 05:54 PM
Silly question, but are you using the same site/software as before? Coz my degrees seem to be the same. But, when I try out different online programs for it, some of them are one degree ahead. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2221 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted April 30, 2016 06:10 PM
Yep. Mine are the same. Elysia Not sure what degree your moon is but I also have draco mercury at 18 and Venus at 8. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 17496 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 30, 2016 06:12 PM
@ElysiaThanks so much for checking! I only use astro.com & it's been a recent change. An INTERESTING change since now my draconic Mercury is conjunct my tropical Mars by only 0.02 degrees; draconic moon now within a degree of tropical Saturn. Hmmm Anyway I wanted to ask more about your draconic placements but hate to pry. Anything you want to share about that fascinating draco Mars you've got? Like the degree? So I can tell if I've got stuff to match it? If not, I understand! IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 17496 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 30, 2016 06:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by DopGang: Yep. Mine are the same.
Thanks for checking! That's at astro.com? Your draco Venus is on my tropical DSC. Not to be mischievous, just scientific.
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DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2221 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted April 30, 2016 06:16 PM
^^ Yep. Astro.com Edit: my draco asc at 29 aqua. So I have most of aqua covered. IP: Logged |
Elysia Knowflake Posts: 1284 From: Gotham Registered: Aug 2015
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posted April 30, 2016 06:17 PM
Oh wow, how did that happen!?My draco Cap mars is at 17°. (Conjunct your Sun again ). And draco sun @ Cap 11°. What placements would ya like me to tell? @DopG, You have an Aqua stellium in Draconic? Cool! Your mars is still the closest of those 3 though. (Moon is at ~23°). IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25594 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 30, 2016 06:18 PM
Mean Node or true Node will give slightly different results, depending on how close those two are in your chart. Well the mean node does not exist anyway, so I never use it. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 17496 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 30, 2016 06:18 PM
Seriously, why is astro.com picking on just ME? I have my progressed moon in Virgo, I can't handle these little tricks! Figures, just when I'm getting a little OCD, they move my wheel just a smidgen. Just enough to drive me bonkers.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25594 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 30, 2016 06:19 PM
But I just noticed Transiting Draco Pluto is at 26- 27 Cancer currently. conjunct my Draco IC on 24 Cancer and opp. Draco Pluto on 28 Cap
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 17496 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 30, 2016 06:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Elysia: Oh wow, how did that happen!?
Act of God? I don't knowwwww quote: Originally posted by Elysia: My draco Cap mars is at 17°. And sun @ Cap 11°. What placements would ya like me to tell?
Those! So your sun and Mars both on my tropical sun, another clue to the mystery of why you made a thread just like mine! Sorry for manipulating your attention here, I just couldn't leave the conversation hanging! IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2221 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted April 30, 2016 06:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Mean Node or true Node will give slightly different results, depending on how close those two are in your chart. Well the mean node does not exist anyway, so I never use it.
Ohhhhh I forgot about that possibility. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 17496 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 30, 2016 06:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Mean Node or true Node will give slightly different results, depending on how close those two are in your chart. Well the mean node does not exist anyway, so I never use it.
Ohhhhhhhh THAT'S IT. Now I feel like an idiot. I was checking the mean node and forgot to unclick it. Thank you! IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 17496 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 30, 2016 06:25 PM
LOLI didn't see your Ohhhh before I wrote mine. IP: Logged |
Elysia Knowflake Posts: 1284 From: Gotham Registered: Aug 2015
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posted April 30, 2016 06:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Those! So your sun and Mars both on my tropical sun, another clue to the mystery of why you made a thread just like mine! Sorry for manipulating your attention here, I just couldn't leave the conversation hanging!
Oh, not at all!! I'm glad you talked to me. Didn't want to leave it dangling either... And yeah, I know right... My NN, dSun, dMars...all of 'em, ~following-the-leader~, subconsciously though.. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 17496 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 30, 2016 06:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: But I just noticed Transiting Draco Pluto is at 26- 27 Cancer currently. conjunct my Draco IC on 24 Cancer and opp. Draco Pluto on 28 Cap
Wow So dr Pluto on my dr moon Tr Pluto on my tr sun Not dead yetttt but those orbs will be closing in on me this year. Hmm. IP: Logged |
XzaultaX Knowflake Posts: 119 From: Your mind Registered: Feb 2016
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posted April 30, 2016 06:27 PM
Can someone tell me what a draconic chart is and what it means? Thanks : 3IP: Logged |
Elysia Knowflake Posts: 1284 From: Gotham Registered: Aug 2015
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posted April 30, 2016 06:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Mean Node or true Node will give slightly different results, depending on how close those two are in your chart. Well the mean node does not exist anyway, so I never use it.
Mystery solved! IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 17496 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 30, 2016 06:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Elysia: Oh, not at all!! I'm glad you talked to me. Didn't want to leave it dangling either... And yeah, I know right... My NN, dSun, dMars...all of 'em, ~following-the-leader~, subconsciously though..
Leader? No it's more like we're playing leapfrog. I'm like, "Should I say this, or let Elysia do it for me??" Kidding Well for now I am actually just half-kidding since I'm amazed at how often you say what I want said. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2221 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted April 30, 2016 06:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by XzaultaX: Can someone tell me what a draconic chart is and what it means? Thanks : 3
Essentially, it places the north node at the Aries Point. So every draconic chart will have NN at zero degrees Aries. Houses and aspects of the planets will remain the same but signs and degrees will change. You can think of it as the signs sliding (clockwise I think) until 0 Aries lands on NN. So I think of it as your NN chart. Some call it the chart of your soul, higher self, etc. Due to things that the NN is about. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 17496 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 30, 2016 06:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by XzaultaX: Can someone tell me what a draconic chart is and what it means? Thanks : 3
It's a broad topic, you might be interested in Googling it...and then exploring the idea by investigating draconic charts just as you look at regular charts. Their value becomes apparent through use. Here you go, for starters. quote: It just means that instead of the node being at the particular degree you're accustomed to seeing it, it is 'dialed back' to 0 degrees of Aries. The planets all stay in the same houses and have the same angular relationship (aspects) to each other as in the tropical zodiac charts but the signs and degrees are altered (unless you were already born with the North Node at 0 Aries. In that case, your Draconic chart is identical to your natal chart in the tropical zodiac). --- Like the North Node, the Draconic chart says something about where we are headed, if we chose to reach out, and also like the South Node, it says something about where we have been, what's comforting, familiar and secure. Some think of the Draco chart as as the “purpose” behind the soul's intention and link it to a sense of destiny or fate. I like to think of the natal Draconic chart as a layer of “soul fabric” that lies underneath the outward personality. You can’t see it unless you look deep. Like the silk lining of a jacket, we never think about it being there and it never fully shows, yet it is a substance that makes the wearing of the coat more comfortable—a better fit—and when the breeze flips up an edge and we get a glimpse of that contrasting color and silky texture, we go “ahhh”. The Draconic chart is something like that. In this metaphor there is no “blending.” The Draconic chart is not woven into the natal chart like a tweed. It is the satin underneath, distinct and of its own, usually different, nature.
http://www.falconastrology.com/draconic.html IP: Logged |
XzaultaX Knowflake Posts: 119 From: Your mind Registered: Feb 2016
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posted April 30, 2016 06:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by DopGang: Essentially, it places the north node at the Aries Point. So every draconic chart will have NN at zero degrees Aries. Houses and aspects of the planets will remain the same but signs and degrees will change. You can think of it as the signs sliding (clockwise I think) until 0 Aries lands on NN. So I think of it as your NN chart. Some call it the chart of your soul, higher self, etc. Due to things that the NN is about.
quote: Originally posted by Faith: It's a broad topic, you might be interested in Googling it...and then exploring the idea by investigating draconic charts just as you look at regular charts.Their value becomes apparent through use. Here you go, for starters.
Thanks for explaining DopGang and Faith IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 25594 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 30, 2016 06:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: WowSo dr Pluto on my dr moon Tr Pluto on my tr sun Not dead yetttt but those orbs will be closing in on me this year. Hmm.
Yes, rather amazing, isn`t it? No, I don`t think you are going to die. But you will transform and become very clear about who you are and what you need on a very deep level. Wow, just realized that means Tr Dr Pluto is
conjunct Mr Sag`s Sun-Moon-MC and his tropical Juno in his 5th house IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 17496 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted April 30, 2016 06:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by DopGang: So I think of it as your NN chart. Some call it the chart of your soul, higher self, etc. Due to things that the NN is about.
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