posted May 02, 2016 06:37 AM            

which begs the question, does believing in astrology put me in a box? am i using it as justification for the things that i don't like about myself? for example.. no no, i don't have abandonment issues that i could work on .. that's just my venus in scorpio conjunct pluto. it's alright. i'm suppose to be like this. no point fighting or doing anything about it. it's acceptable now because it was deemed 'meant to be' by the planets/universe.

have i been using astrology as a comfort blanket? have i been using it as a mechanism of escape?

the reason i'm asking this question: in January i was still in denial about my childhood, i was born to be an extension of my mother and i was an extension of my mother. over the last 4 months i've gotten in touch with just me. without my mother, father, or the child in me attached - just autonomous me. and i find that less of my chart resonates with me.

we could say it's the transits etc and that i will return to my natal chart but i don't want to because that is now synonymous with a mask i wore to protect myself and to seek validation for just breathing.

so what happens now? what happens when i've made more progress on living in the fullness of myself? does astrology go in the bin?

I've looked at my MC and my north node. those are significant factors but what happens when i accomplish my north node mission? when i've become the personification of my MC?

does my natal chart then end? or does it evolve? do i move away from my natal chart and instead start using my progressed chart? solar return? lunar return?

posted May 02, 2016 06:44 AM            

Your chart is like a "code" that is been giving to you, free yourself from it is to me the goal.
Free myself from the energy that has been deposited on me by my parents/ancestors is also the goal.
But understanding those energies and understanding what running inside of you is a major key, the travel in between.
And freeing doesnt mean denial.

astrology should never be an excuse, nothing is fated, and unchangeable

posted May 02, 2016 08:33 AM            

However, the way of expressing the symbolism might change. Any astrological symbol has a range of expression.

For example:
Saturn in 3rd house

You can manifest it by having a physical blockage when it comes to speaking (a stutter possibly), or psychologically it could be about feeling like you are a poor communicator, are being blocked from talking and writing freely and exchanging thoughts.

Relationally it could mean that talking with your partner is near to impossible, something prevents you, maybe a fear that your thoughts are not going to be accepted.
Or it relates to isolation and distance to your siblings or neighbours.

However you could ALSO express this Saturn in 3rd house in a different way, by becoming an extremely competent speaker, communicating probably in a rather matter-of-fact way, avoiding small talk but therefore having a knack for analyzing a thing through and through, for having a very dry wit possibly.

Maybe you would feel responsible for your siblings or develop a practical but caring relationship to them and you could even work together.

And of course there are many more possibilities how this symbol Saturn-in-3rd could express. And of course any other symbols too.

So if I hear someone say, the horoscope does not resonate anymore, I donīt believe it. What I do think however is that what you read about certain interpretations does not resonate or does not fit you anymore. Totally possible, yes. Probably the expression of the symbol has switched or changed or got modified, but you will still express the symbolism of your chart, just that the symbolism usually contains more possibilities than any cookbook interpretation indicates.

And the chart should never be taken as a JUSTIFICATION of something.

It`s like saying the clock is the reason that I am too late for my appointment!
And because it shows I am late, it is okay.

If there are abandonment issues, it might have been indicated by Moon-Saturn or Venus-Pluto, but that doesntīmean that someone should not try to figure out how to work with them.
Strive for a higher or healthier expression of MOon-Saturn or Venus-Pluto.

posted May 02, 2016 10:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
The natal chart doesn`t end and it keeps on describing you as a person

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Thanks so much, Ceridwen!

posted May 02, 2016 02:26 PM            

Those are all good questions. I think sometimes it is good to just put astrology aside for a while. In my first year of study, I got really tripped up over my rather literalist receiving of Robert Pelletier's interpretation of my chart related to Saturn (among other things).

I would simply recommend that you focus on what seems to you to be the most empowering and healing direction for you now. Astrology does not have to be incorporated as a belief system that we cling to.

You don't have to throw it into file 13. Just hide it under a stack of other more important things for now.

I have long noticed that my serious studies of astrology (and my own chart) have greatly benefited from taking breaks from it. Sometimes rather lengthy ones.

posted May 02, 2016 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:

though I'll add that many harsh placements can become the strongest if the energy is worked through and mastered. To oversimplify, favorable positions are born ahead of the game, but those with challenging aspects can exceed those with the favorable positions, and be more motivated to try. I think that's true whether dealing with one's own planets, or in synastry. ('Course there's a right way and wrong way to go about these things.)

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posted May 02, 2016 03:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I think sometimes it is good to just put astrology aside for a while. ---

I would simply recommend that you focus on what seems to you to be the most empowering and healing direction for you now.

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