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Topic: Went to an herbalist store..
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Selenite
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From: Lyra
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posted May 02, 2016 02:43 PM
  
... to apply for a job, and they asked me to leave a copy of my natal chart as part of the application process.
This was truly strange to me, and interesting. What are your thoughts? What would you even look for, in a chart, as an employer? Would you leave your chart as an applicant?  IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted May 02, 2016 03:06 PM
That's kind of bizarre. I guess they want to see if you would mesh well with the other employees, or be a good fit for the job duties? I know that Chinese astrology is often used in the hiring process. To me it seems like discrimination, but I guess if people are really serious about astrology it's just as important as prior work experience to them. If I wanted the job bad enough I would give them my chart, but I'm a Scorpio with a Moon/Pluto conjunction and a packed 8th house. I think people might be afraid of hiring me based on my chart, unless they really like Scorpios. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted May 02, 2016 05:48 PM
I have never heard of that, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Personally, I trust my direct instincts on such things with people, etc. So as an employer, I don't think I'd ever need to ask for the prospective employee's birth data/birth chart. As an applicant, I'd probably say "I'm an astrologer. What do you want to know about my chart? Here I'll give you my data." I would probably quickly grill them or ask them some questions about their chart -- you show me yours, I'll show you mine. If they don't want to, I'd refuse. I might even refuse if I got the sense they didn't know astrology well enough. ------------------
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Violets
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posted May 02, 2016 05:54 PM
It's not entirely surprising, but it does seem rather intrusive, and yes I think bordering on discriminatory. I absolutely would not give them my natal chart, any sooner than I would give them access to my Facebook account. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted May 02, 2016 06:32 PM
That is cool lol------------------
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Selenite
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From: Lyra
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 02, 2016 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by Bluejay:
To me it seems like discrimination, but I guess if people are really serious about astrology it's just as important as prior work experience to them. If I wanted the job bad enough I would give them my chart, but I'm a Scorpio with a Moon/Pluto conjunction and a packed 8th house. I think people might be afraid of hiring me based on my chart, unless they really like Scorpios.
That's kind of how I saw it. How on earth are they going to judge placements like that? There are so many different ways to interpret Moon/Pluto and Scorpio.
Another example would be someone with many squares. What about people who have mastered their squares? Square mastery seems like incentive to hire, but unmastered natal squares seem like trouble. (And still at a very general level) How would they be able to tell?? I'm really curious as to what kind of rubric they're using.. I almost want to go back and ask them instead of applying. IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted May 02, 2016 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
That is cool lol
Oh no Ami Anne, don't get any ideas! Libra Moons need not apply  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 02, 2016 08:07 PM
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Bluejay
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posted May 02, 2016 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by Selenite:
That's kind of how I saw it. How on earth are they going to judge placements like that? There are so many different ways to interpret Moon/Pluto and Scorpio.
Another example would be someone with many squares. What about people who have mastered their squares? Square mastery seems like incentive to hire, but unmastered natal squares seem like trouble. (And still at a very general level) How would they be able to tell?? I'm really curious as to what kind of rubric they're using.. I almost want to go back and ask them instead of applying.
Yeah this is exactly why it is discriminatory. Who's to judge whether they are able to overcome the harsher aspects. Also the way an aspect manifests is based largely on the person's environment. I've known someone for half of my life that has a Mars/Pluto conjunction in Scorpio almost to the minute. I was actually shocked to see that in his chart. He is not aggressive at all and is not a very sexual person. I have my theories about how that aspect plays out with him, but I would have never expected him to have it in his chart. I would make all kinds of assumptions about him based on that one aspect alone if I didn't know him.
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Bluejay
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posted May 02, 2016 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yea, Libra Moons are verboten
My Libra Moon is offended! That's just not fair!!!  ETA...although something tells me I wouldn't want the job anyway.  IP: Logged |
Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 02, 2016 09:03 PM
@SeleniteIt's been a long time since I talked to my friend about this but I'm almost positive that her essential oils company consulted her approximate birth chart before hiring her, and told her so. I don't think she submitted a chart, they just worked off her birthday.
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diamondbaby
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posted May 02, 2016 11:31 PM
Wow, I have never heard of anything like this. Sounds cool though. IP: Logged |
Selenite
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From: Lyra
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 03, 2016 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by Faith:
@SeleniteIt's been a long time since I talked to my friend about this but I'm almost positive that her essential oils company consulted her approximate birth chart before hiring her, and told her so. I don't think she submitted a chart, they just worked off her birthday.
Interesting. I wonder if it's the same place. It seems really small, which is probably why they can get away with asking. IP: Logged |
Selenite
Knowflake Posts: 1097
From: Lyra
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 03, 2016 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by Bluejay:
My Libra Moon is offended! That's just not fair!!! ETA...although something tells me I wouldn't want the job anyway.
Yeah it's one of those things where I kind of don't want the job, but I'm curious. I'd have to pay for herbalist classes because I'm not qualified in the 'medicinal properties' realm, so that's pretty much out of the question. ..But if I was qualified, I'd apply just to see what they say about my chart. I wonder if they know about Lindaland? So many questions.. IP: Logged |
VirgoPILL
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From: cosmos
Registered: Oct 2015
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posted May 03, 2016 03:56 AM
i personally don't like this. they can discriminate the same way when they do it by your age or sex or photo on a CV instead of how you do the actual job
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PixieJane
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posted May 03, 2016 04:09 AM
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Originally posted by Selenite:
I'd have to pay for herbalist classes because I'm not qualified in the 'medicinal properties' realm, so that's pretty much out of the question
It's sounding a bit like a scam now, or at least very manipulative. They also sound like control freaks to me. Of course, I'm only going by what I've read in this thread. IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted May 03, 2016 07:15 AM
I would be pretty excited if they asked me. To know I could talk about astrology at work.But you're right, it is unfair if they use it to judge you with out knowing you. IP: Logged |
Stawr
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posted May 03, 2016 07:18 AM
I hope that they would reimburse her on the classes/training.IP: Logged |
12muddy
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posted May 03, 2016 08:44 AM
On one hand, it's cool that they seem to believe in astrology. On the other hand, it seems possible that they may misuse it. I wouldn't leave my chart.
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Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 03, 2016 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by Selenite:
Interesting. I wonder if it's the same place. It seems really small, which is probably why they can get away with asking.
The place I'm talking about is in Germany, a large company. IP: Logged |
Selenite
Knowflake Posts: 1097
From: Lyra
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 03, 2016 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
It's sounding a bit like a scam now, or at least very manipulative. They also sound like control freaks to me. Of course, I'm only going by what I've read in this thread.
That was also my first reaction, but I tend to think everyone is manipulative and a control freak. I am a little naive though so I took the flyers they gave me. They wanted me to study with herbalists they knew, as an apprentice. It seemed like it made sense at the time, but I knew there would be no chance of me having the time or money to do that. I probably won't go back, but I have a satisfying image in my head of leaving a ridiculous (fake) natal chart... IP: Logged |
VirgoPILL
Knowflake Posts: 314
From: cosmos
Registered: Oct 2015
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posted May 03, 2016 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by Selenite:
I probably won't go back, but I have a satisfying image in my head of leaving a ridiculous (fake) natal chart...
good! i'd do the same! :P IP: Logged |
bella_taurus
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From: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 04, 2016 03:48 PM
I want a Leo boss. Just saying. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted May 04, 2016 04:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Selenite:
I probably won't go back, but I have a satisfying image in my head of leaving a ridiculous (fake) natal chart...
Bahahaha! You really should. IP: Logged |
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