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Mergoatsun
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posted May 04, 2016 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From her first album she has the song "Signs" and a song called "Gifts from a Virgo."

This is her sign "Signs" and apparently she was in love with a Sagittarius and a Pisces hurt her. I wonder who they could be? She does mention that she loved them all though.

https://youtu.be/Nz7evGexG_8

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I know the guy she was in a relationship with before she got with Jay cheated on her, i don't remember his name though. I think "Best thing i never had" might be about him.

Edit: i found out his name, he`s name is Lyndall locke

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posted May 04, 2016 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She has the 12th house planets that influence her liking in astrology.

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posted May 04, 2016 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libracorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her time of birth listed on Astrotheme is still a topic of debate. I personally think it's wrong, no one is born directly on an hour really (10:00am). And the source of birth time comes from IMDB (which can be modified by anyone).

So those 12th house placements may or may not be existent.

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posted May 04, 2016 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Libracorn:
Her time of birth listed on Astrotheme is still a topic of debate. I personally think it's wrong, no one is born directly on an hour really (10:00am). And the source of birth time comes from IMDB (which can be modified by anyone).

So those 12th house placements may or may not be existent.


I don't know. She could be a leo riser but i think Libra asc fits her, even though she has a Libra stellium.

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posted May 05, 2016 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealsaturn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She definitely appears to be a Leo Rising.

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posted May 05, 2016 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Beyonce, if you're reading....

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Gemini30
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posted May 05, 2016 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by etherealsaturn:
She definitely appears to be a Leo Rising.

Id be willing to bet she is actually a Virgo rising. Her interviews seem to me shes a virgo. Either way, this lady was born in the morning lol.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted May 05, 2016 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. I was not aware of those lyrics.

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Originally posted by Libracorn:
Her time of birth listed on Astrotheme is still a topic of debate. I personally think it's wrong, no one is born directly on an hour really (10:00am). And the source of birth time comes from IMDB (which can be modified by anyone).

So those 12th house placements may or may not be existent.


I agree. I have worked with Beyonce's chart in an ongoing in-depth rectification and I can tell you she is not a Libra riser, and does not have any of those planets in her 12th house. She does have lots of Libra qualities because of the stellium there.

I have first been able to eliminate certain signs while gradually narrowing things down. Libra and Leo have been eliminated.

I believe the best possibilities for her are Virgo and Cancer.

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"I'm really kinda shy, not really shy, but more reserved ..."
- Beyonce, BET interview

If anyone who follows her more closely than I do (I'm sure most or all of you do), please feel free to post biographical information, especially events tied to a particular age or date that could help me make a final determination. I'm especially interested in events of a significant nature around ages 18 (late 1999-early 2000) and 24 (late 2005-early 2006). That could allow me to determine if she has a diurnal (daytime) or nocturnal chart.

I'm not really a listener of pop music much anymore, but I do find her fascinating, magnetic, sexy, beautiful, unbelievably talented and creative.

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posted May 05, 2016 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bella_taurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to say, Beyoncé does not strike me as a Virgo. She reminds me so much of a true Leo. Like Jennifer Lopez. The way she carries herself, her lyrics, even the way she talks....everything. Whenever I think of a Virgo singer, I think of someone like Carol King, Anita Baker, or even Beck. Even though Beyoncé is a Virgo, she must have some serious Leo in her chart, even Aries. IMO.

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posted May 05, 2016 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bella, Astrology is first planets. The fire principle can be found in Sun, Mars, Jupiter. She has Mars in Leo. There is zero chance of her being a Leo rising. She does have Sun parallel Pluto, and that can create a lot of strength, even strut.

She can have Asc in mid-Cancer square Jupiter.

I did discover a 2-event cluster in September 2005. She split with Destiny's Child on the 10th, and she announced the founding of the Survivor Foundation to help hurricane Katrina victims get transitional housing on the 16th. since these events are within 3 months of the 24-1/4 age mark, this leads me to look more at nocturnal charts (Virgo, Cancer, Gemini rising in AM, or Pisces or Gemini in PM)... unless someone can find significant events at age 18-18.5 ...?

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posted May 05, 2016 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Bella, Astrology is first planets. The fire principle can be found in Sun, Mars, Jupiter. She has Mars in Leo. There is zero chance of her being a Leo rising. She does have Sun parallel Pluto, and that can create a lot of strength, even strut.

She can have Asc in mid-Cancer square Jupiter.

I did discover a 2-event cluster in September 2005. She split with Destiny's Child on the 10th, and she announced the founding of the Survivor Foundation to help hurricane Katrina victims get transitional housing on the 16th. since these events are within 3 months of the 24-1/4 age mark, this leads me to look more at nocturnal charts (Virgo, Cancer, Gemini rising in AM, or Pisces or Gemini in PM)... unless someone can find significant events at age 18-18.5 ...?


I see her as a Libra riser, especially because her chin is like a Libra riser, but I could also honestly her being a Cancer riser too. She has those eyes and the curves

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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
I see her as a Libra riser, especially because her chin is like a Libra riser, but I could also honestly her being a Cancer riser too. She has those eyes and the curves



IMO she also has a tendency to look kinda worried which is also very typical cancer asc or cancerian influence.

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posted May 05, 2016 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the whole 10 am on the dot is misleading. If anything she could've been born around that time. Like 10:01-10:15 but "they" rounded it to 10 am to make it easier to remember.

My mom say i was born at 3:30 pm but i was actually born at 3:38. 3:30 pm is easier to remember, i guess.

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posted May 05, 2016 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She always struck me as a Sagittarius.

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posted May 05, 2016 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neptunicity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
From her first album she has the song "Signs" and a song called "Gifts from a Virgo."

This is her sign "Signs" and apparently she was in love with a Sagittarius and a Pisces hurt her. I wonder who they could be? She does mention that she loved them all though.

https://youtu.be/Nz7evGexG_8


The name "Destiny's Child" is "suggestive" and their final album was titled "Destiny Fulfilled", so you know they have analyzed their charts, lol.

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posted May 06, 2016 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Kannon McAfee, I am curious. What is your rationale to say that there is zero chance of Beyonce being Leo rising?

By the way, I don't believe the time of birth from IMDB is correct either. She is most definitely not Libra rising. Her Virgo side is way too apparent to be a 12th house thing.

Here are my reasons for seeing her as Leo rising:
* She calls herself or has been called Queen Bey. to me, that's a dead giveaway.
* She loves big hair, big golden hair. She is dramatic and flamboyant on stage.
* She exudes a sun-like charisma, capturing and reflecting the light around her.
* She is married to someone who looks very odd for her. But that's what having Aquarius descendant would do.
* She became pregnant and gave birth during a time when Jupiter in Taurus would have been making squares back and forth to her Leo rising, signifying weight gain.
* She gave birth when the North Node was in Sagg, which would have been her 5th house of children.
* She has 2 personalities, but she is not Gemini. 1 personality, her flamboyant Leo rising, would be what she called "Sasha Fierce."
The other personality, equally as strong since it is the ruler of her ascendant, her sun in 2nd house in Virgo is more modest and shy. She has a reputation for hard work and extreme attention to details. Her hard work and the work put in her appearance has made her very rich.
* She married Jay Z April 4, 2008. Saturn was in the early degrees of virgo, still in her 1st house, giving her gravitas, and Jupiter would have been in her 8th house. And more importantly, the North Node was in aquarius, her 7th house.

Yes, for all the above, I am curious to know why you say there is zero chance of her being Leo rising. Not saying I am 100% sure she is leo rising, but the zero chance makes no sense to me.

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posted May 06, 2016 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kewf1988     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, the hair is the giveaway. No way does she look like Cancer or Virgo rising. Only major Leo placements give you hair like that.

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posted May 06, 2016 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for strawberryaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah, the hair is the giveaway. No way does she look like Cancer or Virgo rising. Only major Leo placements give you hair like that.

That's a weave but i do agree that she fits to the leo rising more..

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posted May 06, 2016 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libracorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kewf1988:
Yeah, the hair is the giveaway. No way does she look like Cancer or Virgo rising. Only major Leo placements give you hair like that.

I was about to say, that's definitely not Beyonce's real hair. lol don't let her fool you.

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No analysis of Beyonce is complete without looking at her scorpionic nature, as shown by her moon and Uranus in Scorpio, and her Venus in Libra conjunct Pluto.

going with the Leo rising theory, these planets would be located at the bottom of her chart, so her intensity and deep emotions would not be so apparent to the public. For years, Beyonce was described as vapid. But there is nothing vapid about this woman. She feels deeply and intensely but like any scorpionic nature, it takes time for them to allow their intense feelings to come out in the open. And those planets being at the bottom of her chart, her scorpionic nature is only known by those close to her.

The last full moon of April 21, in the early degrees of Scorpio, shone a bright light on her 4th house and what is really happening at home. It's no accident her album Lemonade came out 2 days later, when the moon was still in Scorpio conjuncting her Uranus, therefore taking everyone by surprise.

We all know about the elevator incident where her sister Solange was seen repeatdly attacking Jay Z and speculations abounded. What was also very surprising was Beyonce's rather cool demeanor during the incident and many people saw it as weakness. When I look at her scorpionic nature, I don't see weakness, I see someone who needs time to process their deep and intense feelings while keeping a tight rein on the image she shows to the world. I see someone who needs time to plot a strategy and someone who ultimately will exact revenge if she feels all her efforts were in vein.

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posted May 06, 2016 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun in the 1st gives leo vibe too.

Sasha Fierce might just be her scorpio moon *shrug*.

I would say that her dressing style is too colorful and polished for a cancer rising.

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posted May 06, 2016 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Timeline from wikipedia

* September 4, 1981 - born
* October 5, 1995 - Dwayne Wiggins's Grass Roots Entertainment signed her group (Girl's Tyme/Destiny's Child)
* Late 1999/February 2000 -

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In late 1999, in the midst of the group's success and rise, Luckett and Roberson asserted that they wanted their own manager because of the increasing lack of communication with manager Mathew Knowles. The pair said they never wanted to fire Knowles, but wanted to secure outside management to represent them. Soon after, Luckett and Roberson found themselves ostracized by the Knowles family and the group's management.[9][10] When the music video for "Say My Name" debuted in February 2000, they were replaced by two new members, Michelle Williams and Farrah Franklin.

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Beyoncé experienced depression following the split with Luckett and Roberson after being publicly blamed by the media, critics, and blogs for its cause.[39] Her long-standing boyfriend left her at this time.[40] The depression was so severe it lasted for a couple of years, during which she occasionally kept herself in her bedroom for days and refused to eat anything.

* October 2002 - Beyoncé's first solo recording, a feature on Jay Z's "'03 Bonnie & Clyde"
* February 1, 2004 - Beyoncé performed the American national anthem at Super Bowl XXXVIII, at the Reliant Stadium in Houston, Texas.
* June, 2005 - Destiny's Child disbands
* September 5, 2006 - Beyoncé's second solo album B'Day was released in the US, to coincide with her twenty-fifth birthday
* April 4, 2008 - Beyoncé married Jay Z
* October 22, 2008 - She publicly revealed their marriage
* January 2010 - Beyoncé announced a hiatus from her music career
* June 26, 2011 - She became the first solo female artist to headline the main Pyramid stage at the 2011 Glastonbury Festival in over twenty years.
* January 7, 2012 - Beyoncé gave birth to her first child, a daughter
* December 13, 2013 - Beyoncé unexpectedly released her eponymous fifth studio album on the iTunes Store without any prior announcement or promotion.
* February 6, 2016 - Beyoncé released a new single and its accompanying music video exclusively on the music streaming platform Tidal, titled "Formation"; the song was made available to download for free.

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posted May 06, 2016 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If they know astrology, and astrotheme's times are correct...they chose an odd time time to get married (?)

Sun-Mars-Jupiter t-square forming a cardinal grand cross with their composite Libra Jupiter.

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@Faith, Beyonce's birth place is set to Houston, AR instead of TX. Without her accurate time it's not a big deal, just thought I'd point that out.

I know that Beyonce and Jay Z have a thing for the number 4 since they are both born on the 4th. Also the Roman numeral for 4-IV is their daughter's middle name Ivy. They got married on 4/4.

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