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missblyss
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posted May 13, 2016 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am wondering if there are any astrological indications of premature death in this chart? It is my friend who just died of a drug overdose at 25.


What things signify an early death? Or what transits can bring death?


birth time isn't accurate

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Faith
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posted May 14, 2016 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So sorry missblyss

Are you okay?

It's really hard to see that huge chart.

A smaller chart with transits for the day of death might get you more answers.

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posted May 14, 2016 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 14, 2016 01:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's awful... So sorry to hear that, missblyss..
How you holding up?

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missblyss
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posted May 14, 2016 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for the words of wisdom everyone... I am okay, I just miss him. I am getting signs from him though... I was thinking "I wish we could make out one last time" (lol) and at that very moment a HUGE butterfly flew in circles right in front of my windshield (in the middle of a hugely busy intersection!)


I have absolutely no experience with transits unfortunately :/. He died on May 7th

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Aries23Degrees
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posted May 14, 2016 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very sorry for your loss.

I see that your friend has Mars/Moon conjunct(albeit out of sign). So there is a tendency to have feelings define action or "act" on feelings etc. This aspect can aide an addiction to feeling "alive".

The 8th/Mars/Pluto/Aries/Scorpio I often associate with sudden events,accidents and all things controversial.

But the nature of his passing made me look to the 12th/Neptune/Pisces and perhaps even Jupiter. Because drug issues are often associated with these.

And also because drug overdose is not so much a "sudden" event as much as it highlights issues that were already there that chipped away at the person to a point of complete unraveling(12th).

12th house cusp is in Virgo. Mercury is in Leo in the 10th house cusp. Pisces is on the cusp of the 6th. Neptune is on the 4th. Jupiter is on the 10th.

12th/Pisces/Neptune/Jupiter is where we tend to face issues of ego suppression, wipe-out, spiritual revelations and wanting to escape.

Pisces on the cusp of the 6th mixes everyday life with spiritual affairs- or sees the connection. This often suggests a need to just "take a break" from the details of living.

There is a tendency to overlook the "small stuff" and the tasks that make life run smooth i.e making the bed, washing dishes, paying bills, preparing for work etc.

With Jupiter ruling this house, there is a tendency towards putting things off or just taking these things for granted for "bigger" and more "inspired" initiatives that don't involve the mundane etc.

Jupiter/Sun in the 10th could suggest someone who has big dreams to be something important in life. But having to hone what exactly that "important" thing is, is a challenge.

Neptune on the 4th suggest a feeling of being alienated or "foreign" to those closest to you. Or feeling like you don't belong- this especially with Uranus conjunct(though wide)

Now what is interesting is that Virgo is on the 12th house cusp- suggesting a person who thinks and ponders a great deal more(and in heavy amounts of detail) than would otherwise be obvious.

The ruler of Virgo is Mercury(Leo)

Solar Arc Neptune is likely to be in Aquarius at about 6/7 Degrees now in his chart(age 25). So there is the close opposition with his natal Mercury in Leo (ruler of the 12th).

So this could suggest thoughts of wanting some form of "peace" or feelings of being "lost" that need resolution now more than ever.

The ruler of his eighth house and 1st (Venus) also arcs to conjunct Chiron in Cancer at age 25 at 19 Degrees of Cancer(estimate)

The 1st house is our health center and represents our outlook. And the 8th is sudden events/accidents.

Now with solar arc Venus arcing to conjunct Chiron, you can guess what your friends outlook may have been? It joined the "wounded healer" planet.

Now I find it interesting that Venus also rules the 8th(sudden accidents).

Could this have meant that his overdose was an accident? Perhaps he had done it as a routine(6th house cusp in Pisces). And not known that it would be fatal? (1st house is also ruled by Venus)

Also we have to consider that the Moon/Mars connection that I mentioned earlier, does lead to impulsive action. And a tendecy for one to "walk in" to danger(Mars)often through emotional motivation (Moon)

Like Aries Moon, Moon/Mars aspects often respond to "in the moment" gratification. There could be a tendency to overlook or not be aware of any lurking danger.

I think your friend was in pain. And his actions were a way of coping with it. but I don't think that his intent was suicide.

I think it may have been his natural impetuous actions that lead to this end(Moon-Mars).

But unfortunately, the house of accidents and sudden events(8th) had a very active ruler(Venus).


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missblyss
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posted May 14, 2016 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think it was intentional either, and he was in pain and has been for a very long time. He was abusing drugs in high school, but more than the rest of us who were just partying. His housekeeping found him passed out over ether with a meth pipe in his hand and 16.

I remember seeing a change in him. Layers over him began to solidify, he began to look different, seemed more inside of himself, less able to be or express his true nature. It has been a slow progression. I suppose because I hadn't seen him recently that I just assumed he was doing okay... He was a very special soul. He had this quirkily little smile that was heart melting. I had a crush on him in 9th grade, we sat next to each other in Bio. I went to the sex toy shop and bought "horny chocolate" which (with my knowledge of the time) I thought would make him immediately get a boner in class. I was like "here eat this!!!" LOL our memories <3

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posted May 14, 2016 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did anything touch his Sun/Jupiter in transit? Like Atropos etc?

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posted April 06, 2017 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry for your loss missblyss.

i've been thinking about a boy who we lost 20 years ago due to heroin overdose when he was only 21. he was such a larger than life kid, generous, popular, funny. such a shame he and many others from my peers transitioned in such senseless way too early.

btw i was looking at this guy's chart and that's how i found this thread. he had his planets in the same signs as your friend except his moon (was gemini). and me too experienced some eerie things thinking about him.

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