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Topic: Venus (3rd) square Mars (6th)
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aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 13, 2016 11:46 PM
If Venus in Aquarius (3H) is squaring Mars in Gemini (6H) how would you interpret this aspect with 3rd and 6th houses? 3rd house is siblings, early childhood environment, neighbors, short travels and 6th house is health, everyday routines, and coworkers. Do these two houses really relate to each other? Any input is appreciated thanks
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CapriciousCapricorn Knowflake Posts: 385 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted May 14, 2016 11:04 AM
Which houses do Venus and Mars rule in your chart? Also, what degrees are they in?IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 2975 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 14, 2016 03:50 PM
I often look at Venus/Mars square aspects as someone who needs their desires gratifies, but is frustrated by not being able to get there satisfactorily.So this tension can often be projected to people outside by making the individual very touchy when it comes to Venus affairs(either by placement of ruler-ship) Generally,it could suggest someone who may not like their stuff touched(Venus) or is possessive of the things they own. It could also mean that the individual may be drawn/attracted to partners that are possessive.Or they themselves may be possessive of the people they get involved with. Mars/Venus square also suggests an inability to keep relationships steady- due to wanting the partner to bring excitement into the relationship. Or even associating drama as a necessary part of the relationship. This is especially the case when Saturn has no aspects to the personal planets. How far from you Dsc is Mars. And How far is Venus from your IC? IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 15, 2016 05:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn: Which houses do Venus and Mars rule in your chart? Also, what degrees are they in?
My Venus is 27 degrees and rules 11H (Libra) and 6H (Taurus) and Mars is at 1 degree and rules 5H (Aries) IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 15, 2016 05:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: I often look at Venus/Mars square aspects as someone who needs their desires gratifies, but is frustrated by not being able to get there satisfactorily.So this tension can often be projected to people outside by making the individual very touchy when it comes to Venus affairs(either by placement of ruler-ship) Generally,it could suggest someone who may not like their stuff touched(Venus) or is possessive of the things they own. It could also mean that the individual may be drawn/attracted to partners that are possessive.Or they themselves may be possessive of the people they get involved with. Mars/Venus square also suggests an inability to keep relationships steady- due to wanting the partner to bring excitement into the relationship. Or even associating drama as a necessary part of the relationship. This is especially the case when Saturn has no aspects to the personal planets. How far from you Dsc is Mars. And How far is Venus from your IC?
I'm not possessive w/ anything but all of my exes were needy/possessive. Is Venus possessive here? Or Mars? B/c I would have attributed possessiveness more to Venus/Pluto aspects. But yeah I relate to the relationship issues associated w/ this aspect but do the houses shed light on anything? My Mars is 13 degrees away from my DSC and Venus is 32 degrees away from my IC IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn Knowflake Posts: 385 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted May 15, 2016 06:54 PM
Are you a workaholic? Do you struggle to multi-task? You might be trying to do too many things at once, with all your concentration and energy going in one area but at the same time struggling to satisfy your need for social interaction. The reason being that 3H favours communication of all sorts, your Venus there shows that this is something you actually enjoy. 6H, on the other hand is not as free-flowing as 3H. In contrast, it lacks the lightness of the 3H, it forces you to get more serious, focused and assiduous. Mars in early degrees especially shows that this is definitely where you will express and assert yourself because it's potent, it's more likely that you will work hard but play little and this is where the problem lies - you really want to play hard too. Do you work in the media or fun/entertainment sector where your role involves a great deal of communication with groups of people? IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 6077 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted May 15, 2016 06:58 PM
It would mean sexual opportunities arise while on the job and that health situations related to your mind may arise.IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 15, 2016 08:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn: Are you a workaholic? Do you struggle to multi-task? You might be trying to do too many things at once, with all your concentration and energy going in one area but at the same time struggling to satisfy your need for social interaction. The reason being that 3H favours communication of all sorts, your Venus there shows that this is something you actually enjoy. 6H, on the other hand is not as free-flowing as 3H. In contrast, it lacks the lightness of the 3H, it forces you to get more serious, focused and assiduous. Mars in early degrees especially shows that this is definitely where you will express and assert yourself because it's potent, it's more likely that you will work hard but play little and this is where the problem lies - you really want to play hard too. Do you work in the media or fun/entertainment sector where your role involves a great deal of communication with groups of people?
Hmm you hit a lightbulb there. At the moment, I'm a full-time student but in my past, I was a promoter so I went to parties every week so that would definitely count as entertainment, and promoting is definitely a communication. There were loads of people that I dealt with too. But as far as the work/play dynamic, I do tend to get into periods where I work all the time. The reality is that I'm not actually working THAT much but when I do get into my work mode, I pour so much of my energy into it that I get consumed by it. I'm good at multi-tasking (Gemini Moon/Gemini Mars) but I prefer not to..It's draining. IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 15, 2016 08:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: It would mean sexual opportunities arise while on the job and that health situations related to your mind may arise.
Sexual opportunities on the job? Hmm I'd have to wait to see that one haha it hasn't happened yet but hey it's not impossible IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn Knowflake Posts: 385 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted May 16, 2016 09:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by aquagembaby: When I do get into my work mode, I pour so much of my energy into it that I get consumed by it. I'm good at multi-tasking (Gemini Moon/Gemini Mars) but I prefer not to..It's draining.
There's your own interpretation of this square. This is what I was feeling too. And yes, with all that Gemini and 3H, there's no way you wouldn't be good at multi-tasking. No way. This was a good practice
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aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 16, 2016 03:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn: There's your own interpretation of this square. This is what I was feeling too. And yes, with all that Gemini and 3H, there's no way you wouldn't be good at multi-tasking. No way.This was a good practice
Do you think also that Mars in Gemini in the 6H can represent someone that's unable to communicate their desires at work with their coworkers? And Venus in Aquarius in 3H becomes too uninhibited and unconventional when socializing within their community and with their siblings? IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 16, 2016 03:26 PM
But yes I do feel that this aspect makes it hard for me to balance my energies. If I go into work mode for too long it's mentally draining more than it is physically draining. Maybe it's all of that air.IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn Knowflake Posts: 385 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted May 16, 2016 09:35 PM
aquagembaby,I think you might appear shallow to your co-workers. Because Mars is stronger here, it's Venus that is the culprit in this square. When we see Venus square Mars, usually it's an aspect that really shows itself in personal relationships because of egoism that comes with it. Maybe your style of communication is superfluous, abrasive to others, you rub them the wrong way, don't pay enough attention to what others have to say because you're more concentrated on the work itself rather that people..something like that..really, I'm not good at this, I'm trying to learn too. Another thing you can do is look at the aspects of your Mars and Venus to other planets in your chart, this should tell you more. Also check what 3H and 6H rulers are doing. Mercury is important because it's a significator of both houses. IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 16, 2016 09:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn: aquagembaby,I think you might appear shallow to your co-workers. Because Mars is stronger here, it's Venus that is the culprit in this square. When we see Venus square Mars, usually it's an aspect that really shows itself in personal relationships because of egoism that comes with it. Maybe your style of communication is superfluous, abrasive to others, you rub them the wrong way, don't pay enough attention to what others have to say because you're more concentrated on the work itself rather that people..something like that..really, I'm not good at this, I'm trying to learn too. Another thing you can do is look at the aspects of your Mars and Venus to other planets in your chart, this should tell you more. Also check what 3H and 6H rulers are doing. Mercury is important because it's a significator of both houses.
You hit another lightbulb. Yeah I can definitely come across too light-hearted at work and sometimes I make stupid jokes or say things that really rub people the wrong way. I really need to learn that just b/c you get along w/ your coworkers and you feel like you guys could be 'friends', that doesn't mean you can act like friends in the workplace. Maybe it's my Venus in Aquarius wanting friendship too much? Well my 6H is ruled by Taurus, and Venus is in 3H. My 3H is ruled by Aquarius, and Uranus is in 1H. IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn Knowflake Posts: 385 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted May 16, 2016 10:15 PM
aquagembaby,I have Venus in Aquarius too but mine is in 5H. What can I say? Our Aqua Venus is very social. I too tend to confuse work with fun. I like to think that one doesn't stand in a way of another. But it does. The reality is work is work and fun, friendships and social interaction should not be part of it, unless it's part of the job of course. Maybe our Venus is cut out for fun/entertainment jobs so that's where we should work! IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn Knowflake Posts: 385 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted May 16, 2016 10:21 PM
aquagembaby,It's amazing how well your chart describes what you do (or did) - promoter. 1-3-6 + 5-11 links - work (not career because we haven't looked at your 10H) in fun/entertainment/media sector that involves communication/group activities with the help of looks (personal appearance, face and/or body) IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 16, 2016 10:45 PM
CapriciousCapricorn:Yes I didn't even realize that my promoting job even showed in my chart until you mentioned it now haha. But thanks, I was aware of the Venus square Mars energy but I wanted to relate it to the houses and you shed some light on it. Like you mentioned, the 1H does tie into it too b/c promoting really depends on that first impression you make with people. Yeah that is a fault with Venus in Aquarius, we just want to truly connect and make friends wherever and whenever possible. There are one or two coworkers that end up becoming true friends but its best to leave it at that and not try to get drunk w/ your entire office LOL. I have other aspects I'm curious about too if you still wanted to practice IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn Knowflake Posts: 385 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted May 16, 2016 10:48 PM
Yes, I do go ahead and ask but keep in mind that I'm only learning. Lots of things I have no clue about.IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 16, 2016 11:44 PM
Ok thanks and I don't mind, we're all learning everyday! Saturn in Capricorn 2H opposite Chiron in Cancer 8H 2H is ruled by Capricorn and Saturn is in 2H 8H is ruled by Cancer and Moon is in 7H Saturn is 28 degrees Chiron is 23 degrees (Retrograde) This aspect has stumped me a million times I was never what it really meant to me. Possibly pain with an authority figure? Not sure. I'll share any personal details you'd like. It's a tight orb too of 1 degree IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn Knowflake Posts: 385 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted May 17, 2016 04:08 AM
aquagembaby,Lol and you picked Chiron, THAT one body I have no clue about. Actually nodes, asteroids too. Smaller things. But I will have a look, yeah. IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 17, 2016 03:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn: aquagembaby,Lol and you picked Chiron, THAT one body I have no clue about. Actually nodes, asteroids too. Smaller things. But I will have a look, yeah.
Haha I guess we will both learn something then :P IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn Knowflake Posts: 385 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted May 18, 2016 10:32 AM
aquagembaby,OK, so Saturn - Chiron, this is a really hard one..for me. Saturn in Capricorn, ruler of 2nd house and lives there too. Money is very important to you, you are very conservative in your financial affairs. You might appear stingy/greedy but the way you see yourself is someone who is practical, serious and economical in their approach to finances. You are pragmatic and realistic (2H cusp in Taurus), also ambitious (Saturn in Capricorn) - you know where money comes from and how/where to earn it. Ruler of 2H in 2H + Saturn in Capricorn (unlike any other sign) - these could contribute to you being well off in life UNLESS Saturn receives squares/oppositions. Have a look. The worst that can happen, I think is that you won't be rich but you will not be poor either Chiron is not the actual planet, treat it as an element of your 8H - your secondary resources, other people's money, credits/loans etc. Moon as ruler of 2H is in 7H, this could mean you can profit from other people's income or that of your partner, Moon is also the dispositor of Chiron (Chiron in Cancer). Definitely check if there's an aspect between Moon and Saturn. Or Saturn and 7H ruler. Also, take into account the fact that Chiron is a significator of 7H so there are already two 8H-7H links + 2H-8H link. You might be able to manage other people's money IF the aspects are favourable - trine, sextile, conjunctions - soft aspects basically. Or you could have your own business but for that you need 10H to be switched on too, plus soft aspects of course. Oppositions are neutral because they can go either way.. Chiron in 8H is very risky and unstable, it can create unexpected situations or provoke unexpected reactions in you. Conservative (Saturn) versus unorthodox (Chiron), 2H-8H - you might get yourself into some tricky situation involving finances, on one hand you're very serious and conservative with money but on the other you can take a gamble, use little tricks, have weird unique ideas, especially when it comes to other people's money. Maybe that's your way to profit. You respect and adhere to old tricks and established rules but Chiron part of you thinks it's a bit boring and something new can work too sometimes. There's also a likelihood of income from 2 different places - keeping your options open and having a backup plan for the future too. Also, because Chiron is in the sign of Cancer, this too points to Chiron as a player, someone who when feels the right moment can act decisively and impulsively, is cunning, somewhat dishonest. With opposition this is a see-saw, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose at this game. IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 18, 2016 03:38 PM
I can't tell you for sure if this would be true b/c I haven't really had the chance to handle other people's money. I did inherit these antique traditional Japanese dolls from my grandfather once - they all burned when my house got on fire though o.O Is this possibly 'pain' with other people's material resources?Also 8H is death and sexual intimacy, and I do relate to the lack of closeness when it comes to relationships and never experiencing love before. I never understood the interpretation "pain through death" b/c most of the time, experiencing the loss of another is always going to be painful.. But I do relate to what you said about Saturn in 2H - It's a huge learning lesson for me and money has never easy for me when I try to earn it. I have depended on other people's resources and I've never moved out or experienced paying rent on my own and things of that nature. But being a student at community college still, realistically I don't have much options (or personal finances) IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn Knowflake Posts: 385 From: Registered: Sep 2015
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posted May 18, 2016 04:49 PM
aquagembaby,You're still young I think a lot in you chart hasn't played out yet. IP: Logged |
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 438 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted May 18, 2016 11:22 PM
I feel old haha but maybe you're right.Thanks for the interpretations IP: Logged |