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coffeetime
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posted May 14, 2016 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for coffeetime     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SUN conjunct MARS
&
MOON square SATURN

which aspect indicates the stronger motivation to achieving your personal goals and satisfying ambition? which of these will likely be more encouraging and pushing to succeed (in personal, career or other areas)?

how I imagine these is that sun conjunct mars gives more optimistic approach to getting things done and going in for personal goals. mars and sun activates competitive spirit and it pushes a person to act on his or her desires. achieving comes more quickly and without stagnation periods or delaying.
with moon square saturn a huge ambition is aroused in a person, but he struggles to achieve it. it is that enormously big goal to prove and show oneself to the world, but always meeting obstacles and having periods of depression. overall, there is much more suffering to this aspect.

so which person with one of these aspects would succeed? who won't ever give up and make oneself proud of achievements? how will they achieve things? which one would you vote for winning in life?
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Aqualilith09
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posted May 14, 2016 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aqualilith09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have sun square mars and moon conjunct saturn lol i can be lazy but when i put my mind into something there's nothing to stop me.

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coffeetime
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posted May 14, 2016 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coffeetime     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I compared the two strongest aspects in my own chart and my friend's. I have moon/saturn square and am curious who would win, because I feel constantly comparing myself to my friend

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charlie
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posted May 14, 2016 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coffeetime:
I compared the two strongest aspects in my own chart and my friend's. I have moon/saturn square and am curious who would win, because I feel constantly comparing myself to my friend

Not to be a Debbie Downer but if you feel the need to compare yourself to someone else you've already lost

I have a Cap Moon (Saturn ruler) opp. Leo Saturn. I only compete with myself!

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coffeetime
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posted May 14, 2016 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coffeetime     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I mean, there's not much a competition between us, the friend is at some point better than me, because while I'm being lazy, she's working hard.
But the comparing happens in imaginable way, we don't REALLY compete with each other, just sometimes I wonder, would this hard aspect in my chart be as fruitful as the one she has.
I know it's not just these aspects, we need to look at the whole chart and so on, but this topic is dedicatd exclusively to these two

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coffeetime
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posted May 14, 2016 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coffeetime     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, maybe it's this - while sun and mars pushes person to be better than one were before or do to better, don't matter in what sphere be it game or job. Just a constant goal setting and pushing yourself to the limits to reach them and also believing you can.
Sun and Mars is about showing (to yoursef/others) what you already know you can do.
While Moon and Saturn is forcing yourself to the goals, because you don't know you can achieve them, nevertheless trying it anyway.

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diamondbaby
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posted May 17, 2016 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my opinion Sun conjunct Mars is way more powerful and more likely to succeed.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted May 20, 2016 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
coffeetime, I think your assesment is good - right on the money - and needs no further elaboration.

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