posted May 15, 2016 10:43 PM            

I learned from her teachings that your asc moves 1-2 degrees per year so 1.5 degrees on average. That's all I read.

So that's how I began progressing my chart. If you had Saturn 5 degrees below your ascendent and venus 20 degrees below it, and you were 1 year old, then your ascendent would say shift from 20 degrees Aquarius foward to 21.5 Aquarius then now the chart would be taken when everything moved 1.5 degrees clockwise through the houses

This would be the actual positions 6 minutes after birth. Because it takes the earth 4 minutes to progress by 1 degree in the zodiac.

posted May 15, 2016 11:06 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
Hello it's funny that I may have stumbled upon the correct true way how to map the progress of the planets upon your mind by misunderstanding Linda Goodman's explanation in her book.

I learned from her teachings that your asc moves 1-2 degrees per year so 1.5 degrees on average. That's all I read.

So that's how I began progressing my chart. If you had Saturn 5 degrees below your ascendent and venus 20 degrees below it, and you were 1 year old, then now the chart would be taken when everything moved 1.5 degrees clockwise.

This would be the time 6 minutes after birth. Because it takes the earth 4 minutes to progress by 1 degree in the zodiac.

I found this method to be incredibly accurate for myself. The day for a year method seems ridiculous in the way that a baby's mind would adapt to the planets exponentially (MUCH MUCH MORE) in its first minutes and hours to the planets than it would in its first days. Just think of throwing a sodium bomb in a lake- a huge explosion. After days there will still be sodium floating around, just dissolving more and more. But the biggest impact, when the baby opens its eyes and its brain starts being used is when it is all being adapted to. Its an incredibly powerful and profound moment for the baby and thats why the natal chart is the most significant piece of information.

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You learned this by >by misunderstanding Linda Goodman's explanation in her book.

YOU ARE RIGHT.

posted May 15, 2016 11:52 PM            

When the baby starts using its brain it is rapidly (at the speed of an electron) using its brain and understanding and using its brain paths and neurons that are being locked to the present position of the planets. That's right LOCKED as in unchangeable.

These set paths will form the chart for the rest of your life, initially. The progressed chart is the one that comes with time. It is the part of the brain that you didn't initially use at birth. The brain has a lot of gray matter and it's like a giant snowball that is most dense at certain parts of the brain, those were the parts you used, and slowly you eventually tune (progressed component) into the parts that you didn't initially use lock in.

That's how a progressed chart is.

But this locking in process. It would take only minutes to hours for the most part. It's a very fast process.

posted May 16, 2016 12:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Seimei:
You learned this by >by misunderstanding Linda Goodman's explanation in her book.

YOU ARE RIGHT.

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Maybe I am only attracted to information that is somewhat believable. Why would your ascendent move 1.5 degrees per year, yet the rest of your chart would move the amount of degrees the planets moved in a day? The moon moves 13.5 degrees in a day. Why would your brain be hardwiring itself to your ascendent and the planetary motions separately?

posted May 16, 2016 12:39 AM            

Yet 1 year of life for the standard method ALSO equals the planets movements in 1 day; 24 hours. In 24 hours Sun moves 1 degree, Moon moves 13.5 degrees, Saturn Moves 2 minutes, etc.

Why would your mind be calculating/progressing your ascendent 6 minutes yet the planets 24 hours.

Why for 1 year of life would your mind adapt to your ascendents shifting of 6 minutes in real time, yet the planets separately for how far they moved in 24 hours. Why is your mind magically accounting for your ascendent and the planets posititiong at different paces in a progression? It doesn't sound right. That chart never existed in reality.

There's no real reason why your brain would somehow do this. There's nothing magically or different about the ascendent that would make your brain do that. The brain is adapting to REAL positions in REAL time.

So for a day for a year method your ascendent shifts 20 degrees, lets say from 5' Cap to 25' Cap. This is where your Asc was 1 hour 20 minutes right when after the baby initially opened its little brain to existential formation in the here. in one sign yet all the other planets shift by the amount of degrees they moved in 20 days. That chart never existed. Your ascendant actually changed signs and rotated 240 times.

There's no reason to think your ascendent progresses separately than the rest of the planets.

It's just the only thing that seemed like it might make sense to first astrologers. That your first year of life would be equivalent to the chart of your first day of life. There is no correlation. Besides if you stayed indoors when you were born with the lights on the entire time, there would be no sense of a day ending. Your brain wouldn't be like "This is the end of a day, This will synchronize exactly with the end of year." It seemed believable to the first astrologers trying to figure stuff out.

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Plus as I already said, the first 5 seconds is 1000x more powerful than the first minute for a baby. It's taking in 1000x as much information in those 5 seconds than it does in the first minute. The first 5 seconds is taking in 100000000x more information than the 30th day, which the standard progression method actively uses the 30th day.

I'm saying the first few to several hours, is your progressed chart. It's very simple to calculate, if your 13, times that by 1.5 = 19.5. Now find the time minutes after birth that your ascendent moved 19.5 degrees and thus all the planets shifted 19.5 degrees over in the houses (not signs). This would be your progression method technique to try it out and see where it takes for you to go

The first astrologers did get it right that you whole chart progresses 1.5 degrees though. Just only through the houses.

posted May 18, 2016 01:47 AM            

Summary for myself

The current progression method says that for some reason that if your 15 years old born with Pisces Ascendant at 3.00' that your ascendant will be from an hour and a half after you first initially were opened intraception. It completely ignores all the planets positionings that were in place at that time, and "cuts and pastes" (internet termonology) that ascendant onto the planetary position(falsely) of a chart that never existed. Cause your mind just thinks the ascendent is so magic that it will progress much differently than the rest

And hundreds of millions of still believing that bull

posted May 18, 2016 01:00 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
I learned from her teachings that your asc moves 1-2 degrees per year so 1.5 degrees on average. That's all I read.

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That is a reference to the secondary method of day-for-a-year progression. It is not how the Asc actually moves, but a contrived method of taking daily net gain of the arc of the Asc and progressing it incrementally across 1 year to end at that figure.

Keep studying - most importantly by watching the sky.