posted May 20, 2016 01:02 AM            

same thing with libra sun friend.

posted May 20, 2016 03:28 AM            

But even teens can be monogamous. Having a feeling doesn't mean acting on it like an animal in heat, at least not for most of us (I hope, but this might be one of the times I'm not cynical enough). And Libra does try to be fair (but if Libra hasn't committed, then it would be easy to rationalize playing the field).

posted May 20, 2016 04:16 AM            

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I'm certain that monogamy isn't natural on an instinctual level

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posted May 20, 2016 04:52 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
And here's the thing: I'm certain that monogamy isn't natural on an instinctual level, .[/B]

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Strangely enough monogamy is quiet prevalent in animal kingdom, and they are instinctual animals right?

posted May 20, 2016 06:17 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Yessss of course, Libra doesn't commit lightly but once committed they take that very seriously and only want to be with you but they are visual but noticing beauty doesn't mean they will act on it.

My husband is a sun Libra and I have told him multiple times he can flirt with other girls and he doesn't.

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Exaaactly.

posted May 20, 2016 04:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
You're projecting your nature on the whole humanity, not a good idea. If there are asexual people on this planet, I'm pretty sure that naturally monogamous ones exist too. Don't underestimate the variety of our species.

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Hardly. I'm basing that on study and research, as well as observing humanity (furthermore, I'm NOT counting that which is "pure sex" such as the epic amount of money poured into the legal and illegal sex markets--which isn't just men who are buying, btw). I used to think polyamorous tendencies were as unusual as asexuality, at least for women, and based that partially on evolutionary psychology as well as believing what others said that weren't true, but I changed my mind.

That said, I was speaking generally.

posted May 20, 2016 04:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Novabronte:
Strangely enough monogamy is quiet prevalent in animal kingdom, and they are instinctual animals right?

Dolphins, Orcas or killer whale, Emperor penguins.... etc

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First, read my above response on why I said what I did, and also understand that I'm not criticizing monogamy (I'm monogamous myself), and--what should be very obvious but probably is not (because of all the self-identifying monogamous people cheating who say they can't help themselves)--that monogamy is very possible. I practice it myself, and with greater ability than some of those who say monogamy is not only natural but the only acceptable option. (If it's so natural to them, then why do they cheat over and over, and why is cheating so common?)

That said, you asked a question. Perhaps you meant it to be rhetorical, but in case you're actually interested, this talks about simian (human and otherwise) sexual instincts in regards to monogamy:
http://youtu.be/LJhklPJz9U8?t=3m13s

And just to be clear, this vid isn't the sole reason for believing as I do, though it's short and to the point which is why I chose to share it here. This is just one of many vids I've seen, books I've read, people I've talked to, and years of research and reflection. It's not that I've dedicated myself to this particular topic, nor do I simply read "that which supports my end conclusions." I study a great many topics from different perspectives (some would say this is typically Libra who likes to weigh different views). It was years before I decided that, on an instinctual (but not social) level, we are (generally speaking) wired to be polyamorous. It doesn't mean we have to be. Why humanity changed is a different story based on political and social evolution (and essentially property rights and the reasons for patrilinear descent, that is why the last name comes down through the man in most cultures, which was not always so common as it is today, but that is the realm of sociology rather than biology).

Furthermore, other TED talks are actually more relevant to the topic of polyamory (and also cheating, which one can still do in a polyamorous relationship, btw), but you brought up animal instincts and tried to apply them to human instinct so I chose this specific one (furthermore, the very rare monogamy found in the animal kingdom tends to be overstated, I'm too lazy to look up specifics right now but I do recall that emperor penguins are better described as serial monogamists rather than mating for life, I think switching mates every year or so: and ETA, brutal fight after penguins cheat ).

posted May 20, 2016 06:22 PM            

We fall for the exterior beauty of a person first and foremost, sadly, then afterwards if we notice we don't like certain aspects of their personality we tweak it and change it without the person ever even noticing - its part of the Libra charm. In fact I think Libras and Libra placements are big on manipulation and can get away with it...on monogamy as a Capricorn moon I express myself in an Earth like manner I value monogamy, the thought of having sex and connecting emotionally with another individual knowing full well my heart/mind belong to someone else is something I could never do (I think it kind of cheapens the connection/relationship I already have) and if my sig other were to be ok with me doing so its over I'm out because that to me shows lack of love/interest. I yearn for longevity, consistency, security & stability. I think this really depends on the Moon. Libra Moons get over break ups quickly, speed date and can date several people at the same time.

posted May 26, 2016 07:11 PM            

She got married 3 times. But I tend to see them as serial monogamist, which is a very different commitment issue from that of the Aqua/Sag/Aries/Gem

Aqua/Sag: very hard to commit, wondering if the search has ended, will there be long term implication of being trapped down to mediocrity

Aries/Gem: quick to jump in, quick to jump out or don't even remember to jump out

posted May 26, 2016 08:43 PM            

I think it's the decision to commit that has to come for Libra. Once they have decided they only want one person, they make that person their world. However, a single Libra, I could see it being an issue.

posted May 27, 2016 05:15 AM            

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A common trait of cheaters is that they say it's harmless, just curious what others they know are doing (through dating/sex apps), etc. But they get real upset when subject to the same treatment, and there's a good reason for it: they're lying, and thus think you're lying as well. It sounds like a good test of the truth to subject them to the same experience and see if they believe you. If he thinks you're lying, then obviously he's lying himself. Dump his ass.

Or agree to an open relationship...but here's another thing about cheaters: they're way too insecure for that and will feel you're always comparing them to others. (It's probably why they cheat, it's an ego boost, perhaps to show "they still got it." Because in their mind that's more laudable than fidelity, honesty, trustworthiness, etc.)

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You know what? I think you are right.

My Gemini sun ex was like this. He said it was "harmless". I almost believed it because when I saw his chart with those mars in cancer and venus in taurus I thought it was not his intention BUT it really was. His insecurity came from his previous relationship with Libra sun who cheated on him several times which also his first time and longest relationship (although he did the same thing too at the end).

He always thought I compared him to others so he end up did something behind my back. His sag moon didn't even help him to be honest rather he always had something to defense about.

I read somewhere that Libra likes long-term relationship, why? because they can finally really fall in love with their partner after more than 5 years. I don't know if this is true, but some I know.

posted May 28, 2016 02:03 PM            

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I think it's the decision to commit that has to come for Libra. Once they have decided they only want one person, they make that person their world.

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Yeah, and then they'll be their most sappy, stereotypical selves. Everything - activity or thought or whatever, for them involves their S.O. They love pairing up for anything and everything. It can very easily (and without the Libra realising it), slip into co-dependency. But that's another story. Point is, they're very tenderly idealistic about *the one*. So, the decision to commit, to turn their lives over to someone, is a real big one. Sometimes, they're unable to say no and unwittingly end up with people who weren't right for them in the first place. --> Then the heart and mind obviously wander. But this could happen to anyone.

Also, to Libras, *not* appreciating the good they see in people is nearly as bad as commenting unnecessarily on the 'bad' they see. It's a form of rudeness, in #LibraWorld. So, if they are 'gushing' about someone, it might be construed as a crush, or romantic feelings. But they're most likely honestly admiring something/someone, or being nice to someone, just trying to lift the mood in the room. Either way, the pedestal their partner occupies is untouchable. And if the two of them are truly in love, the partner knows that too.

posted May 29, 2016 08:59 AM            

My friend is triple Libra and she gets well with any guy, but is in a comitted relationship. I never sensed that she could be cheating, she seems to really have one boy in her mind.
She has scorpio venus, though.