posted May 22, 2016 04:53 PM            

However, the lack of empathy for animals when they are suffering is strange for me because I love animals. These friends don't believe that animals are conscious beings at all, and said that they are okay with the idea of them suffering for their benefit.

I should also mention that these people are also incredibly humanitarian at the same time, extremely liberal political views, which I have to admit is really weird for me considering their views on animals, but maybe because it's almost the opposite to my beliefs, which is fine.

I just wondered if there might be some indication for this, because these people don't lack empathy in general, and I do like them a lot as people (excluding these views).

One is a Capricorn sun, moon and mercury and Sag ASC. The other is a Cancer sun, Aquarius moon and Cancer Mercury. ASC unknown but is likely Aries or Taurus ASC. They both have planets residing roughly around the 2nd (mainly) and 3rd houses.

posted May 22, 2016 06:06 PM            

Capricorn: 5th house midway through Taurus. Venus in Scorpio in 11th. It also sextiles Moon, Mercury, Uranus, Neptune and Chiron!

Cancer: I suspect Cancer or Leo 5th. I'm leaning more towards them having Taurus ASC and that would give a Leo 5th though. Either way its still a Cancer influence there. But if its a Cancer 5th, then the ruler is Aqua Moon in 11th. Can't really go into aspects with this one unfortunately :/

posted May 22, 2016 07:58 PM            

With the Capricorn, Venus in 11H might indicate someone that values what's right for the "greater good" or to an overall cause, since it's naturally the house of Aquarius. So to have any warmth towards animals may seem out of place for them b/c they don't see the rationale in choosing animals over humans. In reality, no one is making them "choose" between the two, but Aquarius's main concern is to care for what makes the most sense (this can make them puzzling at times) throw in the Moon in Capricorn which may lead them to think it's not "practical" to fuss over animals too much.

As far as the Cancer, if we go w/ Cancer on the 5H cusp, then that would put their Moon in the 11H. You can apply what I said above here too. Even more so since they have an Aquarius Moon in the natural house of Aquarius.

posted May 22, 2016 08:22 PM            

However, the Capricorn has Saturn in Pisces and a fair few Neptune conjunctions. Exact ones on Moon and Mercury! And a sextile to Venus.
I have to admit this person gets very upset about people suffering. They go and buy homeless people food and drink and stuff. Its really quite bizarre.

Maybe its an empty 5th house thing also. Neither have anything there, whereas I have pluto, jupiter and NN.

EDIT: Also, my boyfriend has Aqua 5th house that is empty, but loooves animals.....how strange is this!

posted May 22, 2016 08:43 PM            

Cancer i have a feeling says stuff just to seem tougher- typical cancer male trait i think?

posted May 25, 2016 01:07 AM            

Some of your description reminds me of guys I went to high school with. I think most of that mentality stemmed from their immaturity. As in, they were saying senseless (and sometimes cold) stuff just to shock or disgust people. My brother (Aquarius Sun with a stellium in Aquarius) has said stuff like that before, as well. But I've also seen first hand that he loves both pets and wild animals just as much as I do. I think he just likes to get a reaction out of people.

Could that be a possibility with these two?

posted May 25, 2016 03:55 AM            

Cap girl is very quirky and bouncy, but also very opinionated. I dont think she would pretend to not like something. She can ve painfully honest sometimes (sag ASC).