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Ami Anne
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posted May 28, 2016 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a good question. These two angles can be hard to distinguish, in practical terms. I hope I can shed some light.

The Ascendent(ASC) is the part of us which interfaces with the world in our daily life. If I met you, I would see your ASC. If I was ordering dinner and you were my waitress, you would see my ASC. If I received a dish that did not taste right and I wanted to send it back, I would show my ASC in how I responded to the situation. If I was in a store, trying to return an item and the sales person told me that I could not, I would show my ASC in how I responded to that situation. If you saw me at a cocktail party, I would be dressed as my ASC. I would carry myself as my ASC. You would SEE my ASC

I am a Libra ASC. Our motto is compromise. We subscribe to the motto of “win/win”. Hence, in the above situations, I would want each party to feel as if he had won, through the vehicle of compromise.If there is a money problem, I will split the difference. I am be soft spoken.I am be gracious. I am refined. I do not scream, yell or demand my rights. That would be a classic Aries ASC aspect, not to diss Aries ASC, but to make a point for purposes of learning. The Libra ASC wants BOTH people to emerge feeling like a winners. That is a classic Libra trait.

As a Libra ASC,I would dress simply and in a classic manner. I do not like to call too much attention to myself by dressing too provocatively. I leave that for the Scorpio ASC. I leave the “glam” to the Leo ASC. I would not be loud or take center stage at a party.my Libra ASC traits would be seen in casual dealings with me. This is the nature of the ASC.


When I go home, I am more than my ASC. When I love you, I am more than my ASC. When I am upset and “having a melt down”, I am more than my ASC. When I let loose and show my soul,, I am more than my ASC. However, when I dress in the morning and walk out my door, I am my ASC.

I am a Libra ASC, so am using Libra ASC as an example, but the same would apply to any ASC. Let’s take Scorpio, for an example. If I were a Scorpio ASC, you, probably, would not know what I was thinking. You would, probably, have to guess if I liked you, or even cared. If you met me at a cocktail party, you would see a self composed person who holds back. She does not play her cards until she is sure she will not lose an advantage by doing. You would see the wheels turning in my mind. I would not tell you much about my job, my relationships or anything personal. I would talk about the weather or the food at the party. You could tell by the look in my eyes that I was not someone to mess with. You would know, without any words, that I had a personal power that best not be tested.

Hence, in the above situations, you would interface with the ASC. However, the person is much more than his ASC. Let me describe the Leo ASC before I move on because I am writing this article for a Leo ASC, Tink from LL. The Leo ASC struts her stuff. However, it is not in a sultry manner, as is the Scorpio ASC. The Leo ASC is similar to a friendly puppy who just wants to bring you a bone and see your face light up with joy at his gift. Leo ASC may talk, talk, talk, and not realize that the listener has given clues by looking, furtively, at the door. The Leo ASC is, simply, like a happy child who takes so much joy in the world that she may not pick up subtle signals that would send another ASC running for the hills. Leo ASC would, probably, dress with care. She may match her shoes to her purse. She, probably, likes glam, glam, glam. She,probably, frequents the jewelry stores, but the purchases are not, solely, for herself. She is very generous and she will give as many gifts to you, as she showers on herself. She may resemble a lion, as in a Farrah Fawcett or Robert Redford. She may have a mane of beautiful hair as does her astrological symbol, Leo the Lion. If you met her at a party, you would see the traits described above, although one must understand that we are focusing on one part of the chart only and other parts blend into the ASC. I hope that goes without saying to all my Astrological Friends.

Now, let’s look at the MC. The MC is the angle facing society, in general. This includes one’s career. Hence, one may be very different in one’s career than in one’s daily life.Let me give a simple example. One may be a tyrant CEO at work, bossing the minions, at his pleasure. However, when he goes home, his wife may dominate him with a whip and chain(exaggeration for literary purposes) Hence, we see that the same person may act very differently in different spheres of his life. This general rule needs to be applied to the ASC and MC. One may know the same person in very different guises. The chart clears up the mystery of why.

Let’s use the same signs and this time put them on the MC. A Libra MC would seek beauty and compromise in her career. She may be a model, a clothes designer or a lawyer. She would likely be soft spoken in her career role. Picture a Gerry Spence, a commentator during the OJ trial. He was very soft spoken and refined. However, there must have been other sides to him, in order for him to be as successful as he was.

Let’s look at a Leo conjunct the MC. This native struts her stuff in the realm of career. She may be a singer. She may be dancer. She may be a librarian. If she is the latter, she will not be dressed in librarian drab. She would glam up the public library, such that little boys would find themselves frequenting the library more. Leo is glm. Libra is compromise. One more, if one has Scorpio conjunct the MC, one would be discreet in one’s career. One may be a detective. One may be a writer of crime novels. Whatever career one has, one will be discrete and circumspect.

I hope this explains a bit about the differences between the ASC and the MC.

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posted May 28, 2016 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ami, you've explained it clearly.

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posted May 28, 2016 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't feel like my Leo MC applies to my career. However it does apply to how I WANT to be perceived. I want to be admired, confident, fun aND all that. At work when I get comfortable I do tend to become popular, outspoken, fun..but it takes the right group of coworkers to bring that out in me.

Scorpio ASC is bang on.

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posted May 28, 2016 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XzaultaX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oml Ami, you described the Scorpio AC so well. I think my eyes are a little too intense because of my Scorpio AC, Scorpio Sun, and Pluto in 1st house... pls help

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posted May 29, 2016 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo MC conjunct my Leo Moon here, along with a Libra ASC. I totally agree with you. Except I think my MC conjunct Moon makes me more prone to wanting praise in my line of work. If my hard work is not noticed or complimented I find myself sulking. I love getting recognition at work, it makes my whole day. I love that I can help people in my line of work and that I get thanked quite a bit. (Definitely a Leo trait). I am working as a secretary for disability service, but I want to be a health psychologist or go to med school.

Furthermore, my Libra ASC makes me very easy to talk to and people feel comfortable asking me and telling me things. I think this intertwines itself at work because I portray a friendly and balanced look at the front desk.

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posted May 29, 2016 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If I was ordering dinner and you were my waitress, you would see my ASC. If I received a dish that did not taste right and I wanted to send it back, I would show my ASC in how I responded to the situation. If I was in a store, trying to return an item and the sales person told me that I could not, I would show my ASC in how I responded to that situation. If you saw me at a cocktail party, I would be dressed as my ASC.

Excellent examples, Ami! 😊 I'm a Leo Ascendant and I would act Leo-like in those situations... friendly, warm, cheerful, but very determined. 😌

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posted May 29, 2016 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My MC is in Aries and I'm an esthetician & make up artist, which is not a typical Aries career at first sight, but if you think about it's working on the face (the body part of Aries) and it requires one to be expressive, creative, sharp, and efficient. Also, my MC forms a Grand Fire Trine with my Sagittarius Sun & Venus and Leo Jupiter so I'm very passionate about my career and I find a lot of joy in it.

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posted May 29, 2016 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Valentine:
Thanks Ami, you've explained it clearly.

Thank you, V. You are such a blessing to this Forum!

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posted May 29, 2016 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by frankie2912:
I don't feel like my Leo MC applies to my career. However it does apply to how I WANT to be perceived. I want to be admired, confident, fun aND all that. At work when I get comfortable I do tend to become popular, outspoken, fun..but it takes the right group of coworkers to bring that out in me.

Scorpio ASC is bang on.


Thank you, F! Interesting about Leo MC. I have it too lol

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posted May 29, 2016 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by XzaultaX:
Oml Ami, you described the Scorpio AC so well. I think my eyes are a little too intense because of my Scorpio AC, Scorpio Sun, and Pluto in 1st house... pls help

I hear you, X. Hard to change native parts of ourselves lol

I am sure you are totally amazing as you are!

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posted May 29, 2016 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
Leo MC conjunct my Leo Moon here, along with a Libra ASC. I totally agree with you. Except I think my MC conjunct Moon makes me more prone to wanting praise in my line of work. If my hard work is not noticed or complimented I find myself sulking. I love getting recognition at work, it makes my whole day. I love that I can help people in my line of work and that I get thanked quite a bit. (Definitely a Leo trait). I am working as a secretary for disability service, but I want to be a health psychologist or go to med school.

Furthermore, my Libra ASC makes me very easy to talk to and people feel comfortable asking me and telling me things. I think this intertwines itself at work because I portray a friendly and balanced look at the front desk.


Great point, M! What is going on with your guy?

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posted May 29, 2016 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by diamondbaby:
My MC is in Aries and I'm an esthetician & make up artist, which is not a typical Aries career at first sight, but if you think about it's working on the face (the body part of Aries) and it requires one to be expressive, creative, sharp, and efficient. Also, my MC forms a Grand Fire Trine with my Sagittarius Sun & Venus and Leo Jupiter so I'm very passionate about my career and I find a lot of joy in it.

Wow fascinating example of the chart playing out, D!

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posted May 29, 2016 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leonisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami,

If I got that right... When you meet a person on college for example, face ti face in conversation...you show your asc in my case Pisces, but when you hold a presentation for a crowd and there is that same person, you show your MC and then this person percives you as Saggy? 😊

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posted May 29, 2016 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This was perfectly explained, Ami! You have a real talent for teaching.

I have a Libra MC in the latter degrees which allows me to be diplomatic, but I also have Pluto conjunct the midheaven and mars trine the midheaven along with other aspects. As a result, I can be a bit of a diplomatic, power-hungry nurse at work. Doctors do whatever I ask. It works out pretty well. Mwahahaha!

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posted May 29, 2016 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, good explanation.
Taurus ascendant. When I open myself up more, people understand that I am more serious, rational and deep that I seem to be at first.
Capricorn MC (conjunct Mars). I am rather energic in my workplace and I want to get things done. I am be very strict, boss-like, even though I am not a boss.

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posted May 29, 2016 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus MC with Jupiter, Chiron, SN.

I just really want to be left alone to smell the flowers under my cork tree, but, Uranus sitting opposite will jolt me into, truly, believing that today is a good day to dress really abstract and talk about the Universe or how electronical gadgets function or how paint is made or why humans have sex or why ants are so small or why or why or why..

No one can really grasp me. Neither can I. I come across docile and calm but my brain is CHAOS!

I have a Virgo Asc, Mars exact sextile Uranus.

Oh, and...FYI: don't make me angry..

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Ami, my guy is in intensive study period until June 6th when he takes his MD board exam. We haven't seen each other in a month, but I know it will be all worth it.

Also more on this topic, because I have MC conjunct Moon I am able to feel more empathetic in situations at work and I work in a more caring and nurturing setting (thanks to the moon)

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posted May 29, 2016 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, the MC is the angle facing out into the cosmos (the sky -- society isn't out there, but here). What we normally term 'up' and 'down' reference illusions of linear tunnel vision.

All our relationships with our fellow Earth travelers involve a lateral relationship symbolized by the reach of our arms and the forward/backward orientation to the eastern/western horizons (Asc/1st-DC/7th).

What we perceive as 'up' is actually out. The IC/MC axis is our line of movement into the Earth sphere to the local situation of karma/soul family. It also is our line back outward at the moment of death.

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posted May 30, 2016 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:

All our relationships with our fellow Earth travelers involve a lateral relationship symbolized by the reach of our arms and the forward/backward orientation to the eastern/western horizons (Asc/1st-DC/7th).

What we perceive as 'up' is actually out. The IC/MC axis is our line of movement into the Earth sphere to the local situation of karma/soul family. It also is our line back outward at the moment of death.


This was exciting to read.

Just this morning I was wondering about the meaning behind the square between mc and ac.


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posted May 30, 2016 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember this article. Its a good one Ami.

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posted May 30, 2016 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astra:
This was perfectly explained, Ami! You have a real talent for teaching.

I have a Libra MC in the latter degrees which allows me to be diplomatic, but I also have Pluto conjunct the midheaven and mars trine the midheaven along with other aspects. As a result, I can be a bit of a diplomatic, power-hungry nurse at work. Doctors do whatever I ask. It works out pretty well. Mwahahaha!



Hi Astra. You GO, girl. I remember when you started nursing school!!

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posted May 30, 2016 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sikanda:
Yes, good explanation.
Taurus ascendant. When I open myself up more, people understand that I am more serious, rational and deep that I seem to be at first.
Capricorn MC (conjunct Mars). I am rather energic in my workplace and I want to get things done. I am be very strict, boss-like, even though I am not a boss.

Thanks S
GREAT description!

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Originally posted by Leonisces:
Hi Ami,

If I got that right... When you meet a person on college for example, face ti face in conversation...you show your asc in my case Pisces, but when you hold a presentation for a crowd and there is that same person, you show your MC and then this person percives you as Saggy? 😊


Yes, excellent breakdown, my FRiend

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quote:
Originally posted by charlie:
Taurus MC with Jupiter, Chiron, SN.

I just really want to be left alone to smell the flowers under my cork tree, but, Uranus sitting opposite will jolt me into, truly, believing that today is a good day to dress really abstract and talk about the Universe or how electronical gadgets function or how paint is made or why humans have sex or why ants are so small or why or why or why..

No one can really grasp me. Neither can I. I come across docile and calm but my brain is CHAOS!

I have a Virgo Asc, Mars exact sextile Uranus.

Oh, and...FYI: don't make me angry..




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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
Ami, my guy is in intensive study period until June 6th when he takes his MD board exam. We haven't seen each other in a month, but I know it will be all worth it.

Also more on this topic, because I have MC conjunct Moon I am able to feel more empathetic in situations at work and I work in a more caring and nurturing setting (thanks to the moon)



YES,M, I show my heart easier in my career. I have Cancer Moon conj the MC

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