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lisalisa
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posted May 31, 2016 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!

So I know astrology can determine things about past lives through the nodes and what not, but can you also interpret things about your next life?

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Probably the same thing. Where is your 1st house? That deals with your experiences and circumstances in life.

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posted May 31, 2016 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Nodes of the Moon represent our ultimate life lessons. The South Node represents where we are coming from (hence the past lives connection) and the North Node represents where we are going to. Throughout our lives we gradually get closer to the North Node.

In my opinion the way the South Node (sign/house/aspects) is associated with our past in this life and our past lives in general, the North Node (sign/house/aspects) can very well represent our future in this life and our next lives in general.

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posted May 31, 2016 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So if I come from a Libra South Node, was I Libra-like in my past life? It's in the 6th house, so I'd say I must have dedicated to my work a lot, right?
And my next life, if my North Node is in Aries (12th house), Pisces cusp. Will I be a mixture of Aries and Pisces energy? Could I be born with highly intuitive skills, maybe?
This place is where I am going now. As I grow older, I give more importance to a moral set of values, I become more open and direct about what I want (my Aries at work, I suppose), more clear and honest. I used to be very submissive about that, very unclear, while keeping my rage inside. Now I can't put up with that; any unfair situation set the alarms for me as I have learned to cut them off from start by being clear and honest about them, and I feel much better since I don't keep feelings bottled up inside.

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posted May 31, 2016 02:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forgot to ask what houses are your nodes in

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quote:
Originally posted by Sikanda:
So if I come from a Libra South Node, was I Libra-like in my past life? It's in the 6th house, so I'd say I must have dedicated to my work a lot, right?
And my next life, if my North Node is in Aries (12th house), Pisces cusp. Will I be a mixture of Aries and Pisces energy? Will I be born with highly intuitive skills, maybe?

The house is the experience so you embody a "12th house" purpose.

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posted May 31, 2016 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sikanda:
So if I come from a Libra South Node, was I Libra-like in my past life? It's in the 6th house, so I'd say I must have dedicated to my work a lot, right?
And my next life, if my North Node is in Aries (12th house), Pisces cusp. Will I be a mixture of Aries and Pisces energy? Will I be born with highly intuitive skills, maybe?

I wouldn't say you were necessarily Libra-like in your past life, but your past life was Libra-like and you had Libra lessons to learn, if that makes sense. Same with your next life and Aries. So the Nodes in my opinion are not you, but what you have to leave behind and what you have to learn.

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posted May 31, 2016 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I see. Thank you for your answers.

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posted May 31, 2016 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The house with Aries on the cusp is where you need to be independent.
In terms of NN - Positive self assertion is the lesson. You need to develop a strong sense of Self, to know yourself.

The house with a Libra cusp is shows where you have been out-of-balance in prior lifetimes.
Edit - house with Pisces Cusp is where you will need to use your intuition, faith will be necessary - in your self and in divine order.

But in terms of SN Libra - in the past you have been living through others, inhibiting your own soul development. There may be a carry over resentment for not being rewarded for your sacrifices.

Of course this is just a glance of the karma story. There are many layers to study to see the full picture.

Where is your Saturn and in what sign? Is it RX ?

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posted May 31, 2016 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Novabronte , for your explanation.

Oh my Saturn is in my 7th house in Sagittarius (Scorpio cusp) and it's direct. What does it reveal about a past life?

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The next life isn't determined yet. It depends how you respond to your current life. You may not even have a next life.

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posted June 01, 2016 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Forgot to ask what houses are your nodes in

My Rising is Scorpio at 3.01 degrees
NN in Aries 6th and SN in Libra 12th conjunct Mercury (4 degrees apart)

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posted June 01, 2016 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
South Node is clearing old karma for us. North Node is creating new karma so be careful with how you apply it's energy. This just clicked for me. I'm interested in reducing karma, period... don't want to stay on the wheel forever very much

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posted June 01, 2016 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
stay on the wheal it will get interresting!

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
South Node is clearing old karma for us. North Node is creating new karma so be careful with how you apply it's energy. This just clicked for me. I'm interested in reducing karma, period... don't want to stay on the wheel forever very much

Well that depends on what you see Karma as.

Karma is simply experience and reality. That never goes away.

Maybe the issue isn't Karma, but how we choose to perceive Nature.

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quote:
Originally posted by athenegoddess:
The next life isn't determined yet. It depends how you respond to your current life. You may not even have a next life.

Exactly..Its about choice

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Originally posted by Novabronte:
The house with Aries on the cusp is where you need to be independent.
In terms of NN - Positive self assertion is the lesson. You need to develop a strong sense of Self, to know yourself.

The house with a Libra cusp is shows where you have been out-of-balance in prior lifetimes.
Edit - house with Pisces Cusp is where you will need to use your intuition, faith will be necessary - in your self and in divine order.

But in terms of SN Libra - in the past you have been living through others, inhibiting your own soul development. There may be a carry over resentment for not being rewarded for your sacrifices.

Of course this is just a glance of the karma story. There are many layers to study to see the full picture.

Where is your Saturn and in what sign? Is it RX ?


If her NN Aries is in the 12th house then it creates an entirely different ball game.

The lesson may not even be for her to assert herself at all.

Her lesson may actually be to simply "let go" of the need to "conquer" and grow in compassion of the way things simply are.

Just to add on

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posted June 01, 2016 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sikanda:
Thank you, Novabronte , for your explanation.

Oh my Saturn is in my 7th house in Sagittarius (Scorpio cusp) and it's direct. What does it reveal about a past life?


Your Saturn's sign indicates, according to 'A Spiritual Approach to Astrology' by Myrna Lofthus, that you have lived a series of lifetimes in the Age of Sagittarius which are heavily influencing this incarnation. If you study this Age period you may find some resonance, because your soul holds memories of having lived through that time.
5500 B.C. to 4420 B.C. Sub-Age Sagittarius “Wanderers—traveling in tribes because of a disaster. Looking for ideal place and adventures.”

Since your Saturn is not RX this is not your last incarnation, meaning the soul has still more to learn and experience. Unless of course it chooses not to.
According to Martin Schulman, those with Saturn RX have a particularly challenging situation, because they are redoing a lifetime to perfect what they have learnt. A second chance if you like. The karma of Saturn RX is to redo a lifetime with the extra burden of dealing with two lifetimes at once. If in sync with Saturn rx, they can develop the capacity to tap into all of past life wisdom and talents.

Of course ,you may have lived in other periods as well but, as stated above, this incarnation is heavily influenced by experiences from the above period.
Your surroundings, preferences for certain things, places, people, hold the clues about your previous lifetimes.
As does your chart. It is a signature of who you are.

Just remember, your soul is eternal and has lived many lifetimes, your personality is temporary, chosen for this incarnation to help you achieve the goals of this lifetime.


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posted June 01, 2016 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
If her NN Aries is in the 12th house then it creates an entirely different ball game.

The lesson may not even be for her to assert herself at all.

Her lesson may actually be to simply "let go" of the need to "conquer" and grow in compassion of the way things simply are.

Just to add on


I understand you may see it differently. However, I stand by what I said especially because its 12th house.

The way I feel/understand it is:

SOUTH NODE is the karmic residue that you have yet to balance or transmute and until its lessons are learned it may pull you backward. Lets not forget, therein are some positive things stemming from the past one can draw on. eg, with Leo SN one may have a talent for making connections with powerful high flying people, and this can be drawn on to realise the goals of NN in Aquarius to help humanity.

NORTH NODE is a sense of direction, area of expression to be reached in the current lifetime (by sign and house location).
So if LisaLisa's NN is in 12 house Aries, then true to the 12th house of subconscious mind and the sign of Aries quest for truth about self the aim is to know thyself, profoundly, and to learn to assert oneself, to be independent. Libra is quite the opposite of that.
Libra SN suggests that in the past there was too little attention to independent development of self, and tendency to compassion and sacrifice for others was out of balance.

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The house is more important in regards to the Nodes. Thats what I'm saying.

NN is about where you are "heading" but the house shows that destination and reality. 12th house is about dissolving into nature. Letting go of perception. If you put that with the symbol of Aries what do you get? Certainly not the same thing if it were a 3rd house Aries

I was adding on to what you were saying, not disagreeing....


Plus I don't have a talent for attracting powerful people or making connections. Im actually disgusted by authority, as well as authority figures. So maybe thats what my 6th house SN is showing me.

I don't like being around leaders nor do I like being one. I prefer to be independent and let people do whatever they want because I'm not in charge of them either.. I have a "Do as you please and go with the breeze" mindset. And if i do get "nerve wrecked" and nit-picky, I'm brought back to that mindset again.

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posted June 02, 2016 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
The house is more important in regards to the Nodes. Thats what I'm saying.
NN is about where you are "heading" but the house shows that destination and reality. 12th house is about dissolving into nature. Letting go of perception. If you put that with the symbol of Aries what do you get? Certainly not the same thing if it were a 3rd house Aries
I was adding on to what you were saying, not disagreeing....
Plus I don't have a talent for attracting powerful people or making connections. Im actually disgusted by authority, as well as authority figures. So maybe thats what my 6th house SN is showing me.
I don't like being around leaders nor do I like being one. I prefer to be independent and let people do whatever they want because I'm not in charge of them either.. I have a "Do as you please and go with the breeze" mindset. And if i do get "nerve wrecked" and nit-picky, I'm brought back to that mindset again.


We are both applying the same rule, but your interpretation of it differs. That's what I meant.
Of course one would have to consider at the whole chart, aspect patterns etc to interpret NN-SN well.
So in this sense, I agree that my 'blind' LEO SN AQUA NN interpretation might not work for you.
In the end, you and only you can be an expert on your chart, because you are feeling it. Any other person can only show you potentials/ things that pop out from your chart.. sometimes we dont see things until someone points them out, but sometimes they're just wrong. You decide if they are true for you. And this is also why I dont believe that anyone can, just by looking at few details in your chart, know who you are deep down...like really know.

Seems we have the same Nodes signs :-)
My LEO SN in 11H and AQUA NN in 5H . Its not so much that I have a talent for looking for connections, they find me or I find myself in circumstances that work out this way. I meet people by mere accident, or end up chosen for a premium project god knows why etc etc. Forgive me, perhaps i rushly used the word talent... You are very much feeling your SN the way its meant to be felt. However, dont forget that SN represents your past knowledge and actions, and your soul carries the memory of this. So in the past you have made heavy footsteps in matters of 6th house in some way, perhaps you were a prominent leader or abusive one, something went out of balance, therefore the task now is to do things that benefit others in some way. Away from basking glory, power and authority, under the cover of the 12th house. And in order to succeed in this task you may use the knowledge of your SN...if you choose so.

So with my SN - Like you I dont accept authority, until its justly earned and I'm convinced... miracles happen. This is Leo SN talking.
Admittedly, I have Uranus conjunct ASC so the urge to go against the stream, norms, conventions is strong.
I am against class systems and align with the underdog. I dislike the rush for power, money, fame and excess. I know deep down how corrupting and enslaving it can be. How I know that, I dont know, perhaps its in my soul memory.
So I rather live simply, aim for spiritual ideals and try to do things that benefit everyone - this is the Aqua NN.
However, in the effort of doing something for everyone I may use the attributes of my SN, like use contacts to get the project going.

Your 'do as you please' mindset is perhaps a matter of values, not NN SN influence. I dont agree with it. Purpose of freedom is not to do what you please, but the right to do what you ought. Same as free will.

thanks NYC :-)
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posted June 02, 2016 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, I agree with NYC, maybe it's a 12th house thing, when he says 'do what you please', do whatever you like, whatever makes you happy. I always tend to encourage people to find out what they really like doing and follow it, so as to get to real achievement which in my book is the real source of happiness, the truest expression of self, instead of doing things that leave you unsatisfied or which you do just to please others (Libra SN in the 6th I believe). Life is too short to do things that are meaningless to you. As you see I hate mediocrity (perhaps hate is too strong, but I dislike it a lot). For example, I think I wouldn't be a mother (if I am) to force my kids into doing this or that. I would see their talents, let them find them and nurture them so as to make them into careers, since I want them to do what they love.
But I also understand what you mean, Nova. I think ethically the best thing to do is to do what you ought. It is healthy to learn and it makes you more assertive, makes you wiser. I'm actually learning to assert myself more right now. I feel as if people with their behaviour towards me are 'asking for' a particular behaviour of my own. But I don't know if it's the most natural direction for a 12th house NN. Maybe it can be for a 12th house node in Aries.

By the way Nova I'm very interested by what you said of past lives. I didn't know Saturn could tell that much. Do other planets in your chart also add information as to who you were? Or where in the world you lived? Or what you did?
And how do you know that my present life is a reincarnation of a past life that exactly happened in the Sagittarius age that time bc? I am just curious, thank you.

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posted June 13, 2016 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sikanda:

And how do you know that my present life is a reincarnation of a past life that exactly happened in the Sagittarius age that time bc? I am just curious, thank you.


No no, please read again what I said ... I said that Saturn's sign Sagittarius indicates the Age in which you lived multiple lifetimes that are heavily influencing this incarnation. Not that it is a reincarnation of that time. There is a difference.

What is this influence? This could be some talents, or knowledge you can tap into, or lessons to remember, some unfinished business etc...There should be various clues in the chart and perhaps in your life. Look around you, at things you collect or not, various tastes, likes and dislikes for things, places etc... look for repeating patterns. You may want to research this period of history, see if you find things are familiar in some way. Some memory recollection could also be present.The theme may also come through dreams, or as symbolic images in meditations.

Astrological Age is calculated from the precession of the equinoxes. Check books on karmic astrology, Astrological theology or Astrological Ages. The precession of the ages is a highly disputed subject. It works for me and some charts I've looked at so far. You have to decide for yourself.

My 8H Saturn RX is in Taurus “Egyptian, Oriental, Near Eastern, Babylonian, Central & South American. Worship of the Bull...."
I have numerous egyptian asteroid exact conjunctions in my chart and they are all part of important aspect patterns such as kite, trines, grand quintile...

fire trine examples:

Giza/SN - Sun/Osiris/Isis - Vertex/PO Kings&Rulers

Moon/Imhotep - Chiron/Anubis/Babylon/PO Victory - Neptune/Toliman

And the theme comes through in my life abundantly, from childhood dress ups as pharaohs through to learning hieroglyphs in adolescence.. and many other strange coincidences :-)

Anyway, Natal chart is a soul map so it could have clues of many different lifetimes, other than the above and they would come as karma or dharma.. Why? because every lifetime had a purpose, therefore nothing gets lost in the map of soul, every learning experience had outcomes and these are recorded as dharma and karma. Nothing is accidental.

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posted June 14, 2016 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JourneysRoar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Novabronte:
Your Saturn's sign indicates, according to 'A Spiritual Approach to Astrology' by Myrna Lofthus, that you have lived a series of lifetimes in the Age of Sagittarius which are heavily influencing this incarnation. If you study this Age period you may find some resonance, because your soul holds memories of having lived through that time.
5500 B.C. to 4420 B.C. Sub-Age Sagittarius “Wanderers—traveling in tribes because of a disaster. Looking for ideal place and adventures.”

Since your Saturn is not RX this is not your last incarnation, meaning the soul has still more to learn and experience. Unless of course it chooses not to.
According to Martin Schulman, those with Saturn RX have a particularly challenging situation, because they are redoing a lifetime to perfect what they have learnt. A second chance if you like. The karma of Saturn RX is to redo a lifetime with the extra burden of dealing with two lifetimes at once. If in sync with Saturn rx, they can develop the capacity to tap into all of past life wisdom and talents.

Of course ,you may have lived in other periods as well but, as stated above, this incarnation is heavily influenced by experiences from the above period.
Your surroundings, preferences for certain things, places, people, hold the clues about your previous lifetimes.
As does your chart. It is a signature of who you are.

Just remember, your soul is eternal and has lived many lifetimes, your personality is temporary, chosen for this incarnation to help you achieve the goals of this lifetime.


Nova


This intrigued me Nova! I have Scorpio IC, with SN conj. from the 3rd by 1 degree, and Scorpio Saturn Rx (less than 24 hrs before saturn turned SD) sitting 5 degrees into my 4th. Not sure if Saturn is close enough to be conjunct, but it's all bunched right in that little 6 degree space, lol. Your explanation of Saturn Rx really resonates with me! This could lend itself partially to why every effort I put out there, seems twice as hard than it should be. Lots of inner work going on in my life, constant re-evaluation. Could this also be why home life has always felt like more effort was required here? Almost like double the work, like you said above! It doesn't come easy for me, as well as mothering? I have to learn along the way, while already a mom, bc I didn't really have a role model type mom to show me the ropes growing up? I really appreciate what you wrote Nova, quite insightful! Thank you!

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posted June 14, 2016 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JourneysRoar:
This intrigued me Nova! I have Scorpio IC, with SN conj. from the 3rd by 1 degree, and Scorpio Saturn Rx (less than 24 hrs before saturn turned SD) sitting 5 degrees into my 4th. Not sure if Saturn is close enough to be conjunct, but it's all bunched right in that little 6 degree space, lol. Your explanation of Saturn Rx really resonates with me! This could lend itself partially to why every effort I put out there, seems twice as hard than it should be. Lots of inner work going on in my life, constant re-evaluation. Could this also be why home life has always felt like more effort was required here? Almost like double the work, like you said above! It doesn't come easy for me, as well as mothering? I have to learn along the way, while already a mom, bc I didn't really have a role model type mom to show me the ropes growing up? I really appreciate what you wrote Nova, quite insightful! Thank you!


Thanks JR !
Your Saturn indicates:
3340 B.C. to 2260 B.C. – Sub-Age Scorpio – “Sphinx, Egypt, Babylon — life surrounds the temples which are the schools. Underground gods, sacrificial rites.”
I bet you love Indiana Jones movies and any about ancient egypt, would make you feel good inside and like you're with old friends :-)

Saturn is the Grand Tester so your 4th House will be your arena for testing and setbacks, since your approach to this house affairs has been incorrect in prior lifetimes. So yes, that explains your home life challenges ! But you're doing great, the constant re-evaluation you're doing is the right strategy :-)
Don't worry, for any challenging aspect , there is a perfect solution somewhere in the chart. Nature loves balance !

If I may suggest from one Sat-RX to another , look closely at all the aspect patterns (kites, grand trines etc), they are your tools to this incarnation. I think that if we set ourselves up for these ultimate life tests ( we chose/agreed to these), then we came equipped with an arsenal of all the knowledge and tools accumulated over lifetimes that will help us succeed, they are at our disposal. I am sure that you are probably using some or most of yours subconsciously anyway, because you are an old soul and you are guided intuitively to the right decisions and solutions, but studying your natal chart closely will be of tremendous help to ease the distress of the heavy weight that you have to bare.... moreover, it will give you so much internal peace and bliss :-)
And if at any moment you are doubting this lifetime, because youre so much soulful than the reality around you, remember that we are souls having a human experience and only through the material we can achieve what we came here for.

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