posted June 04, 2016 03:59 AM            

often its because of drugs.. but once again maybe the do drugs cause they are bored

posted June 04, 2016 08:42 AM            

Bad investment choices, schemes, loss of income, illness and even being born into this lifestyle.

posted June 04, 2016 09:47 AM            

As for the rest, there are many reasons that I don't see astrology having much to say about (beyond event). Natural disasters, injuries (such as a car wreck), mental and physical disabilities, those fleeing abuse and domestic violence (ranging from preteens to the elderly, and can be male as well as female), criminal records, even death of a landlord, and quite a few other things can cause someone to end up homeless...and once there, it is often very difficult to get back on one's feet without a hand up (if they've got family they can--and are willing--to go to then they probably get taken in, and I'd hesitate to call them homeless). And economic conditions (and things like health care) vary, as does homelessness, nation to nation (and region to region) which makes me think astrology has little say here.

Though private charity & government welfare exists here in the USA (and starving to death is extremely unlikely), it's much harder and longer to get services or help that gets one off the streets than many realize, and they're also limited (and sometimes deeply flawed) resources, and that's not even counting how hard it can be for those who don't have an address or otherwise stable means to stay in touch with these agencies as their requests for aid go through (which can take years, in some cases).

posted June 04, 2016 08:57 PM            

It is important to understand that birth chart factors may or may not indicate a person's later life difficulty keeping a roof over their heads, because there are so many ways in which to define 'homeless' and to arrive there.

And I agree with Sulkyarcher that no astrological factors "cause" or make someone homeless. Astrological energies are just that -- energies. What we do with them is where the story gets written.

Very often I have observed during loss of stable housing transits by Pluto, Neptune, Uranus, or Saturn to the (accurate) natal IC, or through the 4th, or to the natal Moon are taking place. Many people have been hit hard this way by the recent Uranus-Pluto square. I have one such friend and she was a fully educated teacher with a good job from an educated middle class family.

That wide amorphous blanket called "drugs" (or alcohol) are not the cause nearly as often as comfy middle classers like to imagine. Pensions can be wiped out as we saw in 2008-09.

There are a tiny percentage who are willingly 'houseless' partly because they don't like the socio-economic expectations that come for maintainging hold on such an object. They prefer to live freer, even if at a basic level. They may be urbanites or live far outside urban boundaries.

posted June 04, 2016 11:49 PM            

here in canada its less common to easily lose your entire house to bankruptcy

most of the homeless people i met seemed pretty out of it.. drug users.. thats just my experience. everyone knows if they quit the drugs and got a job they could stop being homeless. thats just here in canada. I'm sure its different in the states. but yeah I'm sure things are probably more complicated and they probably have a lot of life issues. i do think some people have more driven charts that can drive them to success or drive them further into the dirt

posted June 05, 2016 03:45 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
just out of a need for adventure

here in canada its less common to easily lose your entire house to bankruptcy

most of the homeless people i met seemed pretty out of it.. drug users.. thats just my experience. everyone knows if they quit the drugs and got a job they could stop being homeless. thats just here in canada. I'm sure its different in the states. but yeah I'm sure things are probably more complicated and they probably have a lot of life issues. i do think some people have more driven charts that can drive them to success or drive them further into the dirt

oh when i was homeless just now on the other side of canada, most of them seemed kinda sketchy. but when i was by a homeless shelter and saw the line up, not as much sketchy. i was chilling with the people who slept outside. the ones lining up at the shelter i think they look for work and try to get a job.

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posted June 05, 2016 05:12 AM            

Usually homelessness can be caused by external circumstances filtering in-circumstances that cannot be controlled or helped i.e financial crises, death of a loved /dependant or breadwinner.

It can also be caused by emotional overwhelment. Either by trauma or other strenous internal triggers that make one disconnected and feel very much "not belonging anywhere". Or a restless , discontented soul.

Yes, it can manifest as the absence of the great 4 walls. Something that society recognises as "homelessness".

But what about the homelessness that is borne from a troubled emotional state ? Seeking to escape from family or not wanting to be "confined" by the idea of sitting in one place all your life?

The emotional state could be in flux already and transits can compound what is already there. And not neccessarily "cause" it.

If one has

Ruler of the 4th house in the 8th-extreme feelings or conditions sorrounding the home or emotional state.

Ruler of the 4th in the 12th -the total dissolvement of security i.e either in the emotional sense or physical. And the accompanying feeling of never being able to go back 8r being unclear of knowing how.

Aries on the 4th house cusp- violent or turbulent early home life. Can make the individual not able to settle anywhere.

Scorpio on the 4th house cusp-power struggles at home. A very domineering parent that results in the individual wanting to escape the clutches of an overbearing authority figure at home.

Neptune conjunct/opposite and square Ic-unstable or complicated home life or emotional state.

Mars conjunct/square or opposed the Ic-arguments and turbulence in the home. Tension around the house that makes living conditions unbearable

Pluto conjunct/opposition and square the Ic-circumstances around the home or the emotional state that change one inside out. Nothing will be the same again.

Saturn conjunct/opposition and square the Ic-usually suggests conditions that were forced and resulted in there being scarcity or less i.e death of a bread winner etc.

Uranus conjunct/opposition and square the Ic-sudden chaotic conditions that may cause emotional distress or stress.

Moon conjunct/opposition and sqaure Pluto, Neptune, Uranus,Saturn and Mars. An emotional mind that is sensitive and is sensitized to emotional chasms and inner challenges. One responds from emotional cues and may lack objectivity or rationale.

Ruler of the 4th challenged by Pluto,Neptune,Uranus,Saturn and Mars. An emotional state that is seldom at ease or stable. Susceptible to wanting periodic changes to compenstate for the inner discord.

posted June 05, 2016 09:21 AM            

I have also seen that happen with people with the South Node in the 4th house. They go through homelessness episodes, only to emerge victorious at the end by focusing on their career. The film maker and actor Tyler Perry is such an example of a south node in the 4th house who was homeless at some point in his life then achieved considerable success through his 10th house North Node. He also had Pluto, Sun and Uranus in his 4th house.
http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Tyler_Perry#hbiographie

posted June 05, 2016 01:47 PM            

When I read over PJ's post, it reminded me of something I had read in Asteroid Goddess book by Demetra George and Dennis Bloch.

CERES and the story of Persephone and Pluto!

CERES... your aspects, (and with Pluto Ceres?) Her transits through your chart AND the Progressions and connections those make.

Right now, she is in 18+ Aries, getting ready to exactly conjunct degree of Uranus-Eris at 23+ degrees week of June 19th?

{{btw, I put a + sign after the degree to indicate it's 23 AND whatever minutes. If I were to use 'whole' degrees, it would be in 24 Aries.}}

A lot I can say... but I can't today. Gotta go, but wanted to add to the convo from last night.

Great thread, Aquagembaby.... And Sulkyarcher, you are fine!

posted June 05, 2016 02:28 PM            

Belage: That's interesting about SN. I would have thought NN would make more sense in the 4H b/c NN represents the things that we haven't yet accomplished yet and it's new and scary territory, but SN is what you brought from the past life and it's what your used to?

Nobody mentioned 2H - the house of earning potential. Perhaps difficult aspects involving 2H and 4H could be a possibility?