posted June 04, 2016 03:40 PM            

I think and I'm almost sure I know what this means especially since I'm about to have my Jupiter return, it has given me so much insight on this natal placement.

I come here to ask for advice for such a crucial placement I have, I feel.

My Jupiter is my 3rd ruler which means communication, short distance travel, mobility, documents, the neighborhood, siblings and such yada yada...controls my natal Jupiter in the 12th house ruled by Neptune and I'm sure most of you here on lindaland understands the 12th house because the 12th house is indeed a very spiritual house and most of us that are psychic, intuive, clairvoyant such as myself and have a strong Neptune, pisces, and/or 12th house in there chart. cmon 12th house people come out come out

Everything in the 12th house is or gets lost in the physical realm, it is a feeling we feel within ourselves unconsciously that we can NOT explain to the physical reality we live in! We can't explain this to the government or those that are highly skeptical of topics that we can not prove that exist, it is the house of sleep IMO. Things we keep hidden from the world whether we are conscious of it or not unless someone were to strongly overlay our 12th house or aspect our 12th house planets then they may unleash this hidden part of ourselves, the things that we put to sleep.

This is what The 12th House does to me!!!! Especially in virgooooooo!!!!!! My 3rd ruler Jupiter R in Virgo in the 12th house makes it hard for me to organize 6th house related things! and that includes my JOB now! My daily job to earn income, the job that I hate, the job where I' am obtaining a kind service to humanity but I get blamed for because I can NOT organize. I can NOT be the obsessive compulsive Virgo that can see all the little details because it is WHAT??????.....hidden.

I wish I could see all the details on a piece of paper and NOT forget!!!! or be able to fulfill a data entry job with my mother because I lose and forget all the tasks because I just do.

another note because my 3rd ruler is Jupiter in Virgo in the 12th house it has made my HAND WRITING ILLEGIBLE for everyone!

I obviously see spirits hear things that not others(non 12th house people) can see. I love art and music who doesn't? I am obtaining a degree in music and realized that I would be a horrible studio musician because I am forgetful of details but when I make art it is easy for me and I feel I'm better off creating art or becoming a healer rather then having a job that requires organization.

any advice on what "gifts" this placement can give me or those that have it as well? Any ideas would be appreciated.

posted June 05, 2016 05:41 PM            

(at the moment I should prepare a class for tomorrow because I'm teaching a course....but....well. Astrology is much more interesting than organizing stuff)

I often hate myself for not being able to structure my day and work, there's just no discipline but also the deep ideal within myself of continous hard work. (the Gemini is laughing already)
I'm so ashamed when I see people working like horses, because my earth placements really want that satisfaction.

But.
Other people told me often, that they perceive me as very successful and can't believe that I am actually not preparing myself.
My ASC is in Capricorn as well, so I look serious.
What they see is my ability to make unusual connections for example. When I teach, I'm not boring the hell out of people, I talk about everything that comes to my mind...and suddenly another connection pops up.
I never have a script from where I orient myself, or only very briefly.

posted June 05, 2016 07:13 PM            

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Originally posted by thegrinning_cat:
I have Jupiter in Capricorn conjunct Neptune in the 12th House squaring my Virgo Sun opposite my Gemini Moon - and I know very well what you're talking about.

(at the moment I should prepare a class for tomorrow because I'm teaching a course....but....well. Astrology is much more interesting than organizing stuff)

I often hate myself for not being able to structure my day and work, there's just no discipline but also the deep ideal within myself of continous hard work. (the Gemini is laughing already)
I'm so ashamed when I see people working like horses, because my earth placements really want that satisfaction.

But.
Other people told me often, that they perceive me as very successful and can't believe that I am actually not preparing myself.
My ASC is in Capricorn as well, so I look serious.
What they see is my ability to make unusual connections for example. When I teach, I'm not boring the hell out of people, I talk about everything that comes to my mind...and suddenly another connection pops up.
I never have a script from where I orient myself, or only very briefly.

My advice: Trust your intuition!
There's talent in the 12th House you just have to learn to let go of your fear.
Research the Neptuan Themes. Stop blaming yourself.
Your handwriting is beautiful, I'm sure!

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awww im so happy you understand! i bet you do look serious especially with the capricorn ascendant you've got there! and my god square your sun opposite your moon?? dang i UNDERSTAND!! the jupiter influence just wants to make you lazy huh? i noticed that as well with my venus/jupiter square natally but I'm not super lazy to the point where i won't get things done but i do tend to be a procrastinator unless i LOVE the subject hahahah! yessss people have said that my hand writing is well ARTISTIC! but thats just there opinion but for the most part my hand writing is very hard to read haha!

posted June 07, 2016 11:02 AM            

You've more than justified your signature.

Jokes apart, I love how you dove into it and came up with that explanation.

posted June 07, 2016 11:09 AM            

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Originally posted by thegrinning_cat:

My advice: Trust your intuition!
There's talent in the 12th House you just have to learn to let go of your fear.
Research the Neptuan Themes. Stop blaming yourself.
Your handwriting is beautiful, I'm sure!

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P.S. You'd be my favourite kind of teacher.

posted June 07, 2016 01:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
P.S. You'd be my favourite kind of teacher.

P.P.S. Oh wait, you're a Virgo sun?!! Figures.

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Oh thank you so much, Elysia!!

Why do you think it fits a Virgo Sun?
Are they supposed to be good teachers?

posted June 07, 2016 02:06 PM            

Every single Virgo I've known...even if they're not a teacher by profession, have something of the *professor* vibe. And, they end up being foster-teachers to the people around them, in whatever capacity..

I could write an essay on why they make great teachers, but I'll try to keep it short here. Essentially, it's their inborn ethic that sets them apart. They won't gloss over important details, or withhold information out of a misplaced sense of ego, they just genuinely want to explain how things work. The motivation is pure, and so is the effort. That's what inspires respect. Also, their students don't feel *neglected* in any way. They're strict when they need to be, but they won't give up on you if you make mistakes. There's no shame in admitting you don't know something in a Virgo teacher's class. (You might get spanked if you pretend to know something you don't, though. ). They genuinely care about their students, even if they insist on keeping up that mildly-worried poker face all the time.

posted June 07, 2016 02:08 PM            

Jupiter return year absolutely lives up to the hype.