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Electro DGX Knowflake Posts: 889 From: Another Galaxy Registered: Jul 2015	posted June 24, 2016 05:24 PM Are there any aspects, signs, or indicators in the natal chart that can show signs of loneliness or an extreme, deep-rooted feeling of being alone? I've heard it's common for Aquarians to often feel alone, but I'm wondering if there are other important indicators? ------------------ Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First 8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine Uranus Have you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet? IP: Logged
LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 867 From: New Jersey Registered: Jul 2014	posted June 24, 2016 06:01 PM Saturn in negative aspect to midheaven. IP: Logged
Electro DGX Knowflake Posts: 889 From: Another Galaxy Registered: Jul 2015	posted June 24, 2016 06:22 PM quote: Originally posted by LaceyLeigh: Saturn in negative aspect to midheaven. That is a good one. Personally though, my Saturn is too far away from my midheaven to be square it (square orb = ten degrees). Are there any other aspects you can think of? ------------------ Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First 8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine Uranus Have you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet? IP: Logged
LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 867 From: New Jersey Registered: Jul 2014	posted June 24, 2016 07:30 PM quote: Originally posted by Electro DGX: That is a good one. Personally though, my Saturn is too far away from my midheaven to be square it (square orb = ten degrees). Are there any other aspects you can think of? Saturn in the social houses, maybe? 1st, 5th, 7th, 11th. 4th, too. A bunch of planets below the horizon. IP: Logged
XzaultaX Knowflake Posts: 156 From: Your mind Registered: Feb 2016	posted June 24, 2016 07:38 PM quote: Originally posted by LaceyLeigh: Saturn in the social houses, maybe? 1st, 5th, 7th, 11th. 4th, too. A bunch of planets below the horizon. Yeah, I think Saturn in the 4th, 7th, and 11th house might make a person a bit more lonely. IP: Logged
Faith Knowflake Posts: 18108 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011	posted June 25, 2016 08:47 AM 8H moon could be a factor. IP: Logged
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 3057 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012	posted June 25, 2016 09:03 AM 8th house heavy people or those with strong Pluto tend to want very deep and intimate connections. And most of the human race is defensive about emotions. 9th house heavy people tend to connect to a principle or ideal and not necessarily personal relationship or people. Social akwardness can often result. 12th house heavy people or those with strong Neptune tend to feel ill understood by us mere mortals. They are seen as weird and are often ostracized. 10th house heavy people or those with strong Saturn ,are all about accomplishing something with their lives, at the expense of their private life(Ic) or emotional closeness. Pluto on the angles. Neptune on the angles Uranus on the angles. Saturn on the angles Jupiter on the angles. So that means that more than atleast half of the world's population is lonely ......hmmm . That makes me feel less lonely IP: Logged
Faith Knowflake Posts: 18108 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011	posted June 25, 2016 09:35 AM quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: So that means that more than atleast half of the world's population is lonely ......hmmm . That makes me feel less lonely IP: Logged
SDragon Moderator Posts: 637 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Sep 2012	posted June 25, 2016 10:11 AM Moon opposite Pluto, maybe you prefer being alone versus having to try and 'control' your emotions around people? Moon trine Uranus would give one the preference of being 'free' which tends to equate to no attachments, thus being lonely. But loneliness is something one perceives as beyond your control while preferring solitude is an acceptance of your natural preference. Once you accept your own preference for solitude, you'll attract someone else that likes it as well because they like you. IP: Logged
VirgoPILL Knowflake Posts: 386 From: cosmos Registered: Oct 2015	posted June 25, 2016 10:18 AM 8th H venus/mars and 12th H uranus/jupiter definitely can feel lonliness and some virgo placements... but certainly here you're not alone ElectroDGX ^.^ i mean i hope... IP: Logged
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2451 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015	posted June 25, 2016 10:26 AM Another consideration. Some only need a few close people and can feel lonely in a sea of people. Others may feel lonely with only a few but a crowd is company. IP: Logged
VirgoPILL Knowflake Posts: 386 From: cosmos Registered: Oct 2015	posted June 25, 2016 10:27 AM quote: Originally posted by DopGang: [B][/B] IP: Logged
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 519 From: Registered: Jun 2012	posted June 25, 2016 02:43 PM Saturn transiting 11H. You kinda start "cleaning house" and friendships or associations you had will end and only the ones that are truly necessary will stay. Saturn transiting 12H also did it for me personally IP: Logged
ceai-de-tei Newflake Posts: 5 From: Registered: Nov 2015	posted June 27, 2016 04:14 PM quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: 12th house heavy people or those with strong Neptune tend to feel ill understood by us mere mortals. They are seen as weird and are often ostracized. rises hand That's exactly what I usually deal with, I'm also an Aquarius ASC and Sun conjunct in 1H and that adds even more to the weirdness people perceive about me. OP, if you also mean romantically, see Venus in 12H. By the way, would Vesta in 8H also point to loneliness? I would interpret it so. IP: Logged
Doux R�ve Moderator Posts: 9834 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted June 27, 2016 06:08 PM The excruciating, intense, deep "aloneness" and "I don't belong anywhere" feeling is found in afflicted Moons, especially in hard aspect to Chiron and Pluto. I almost want to add Saturn, but I'm not entirely sure about the "intensity" of that one. All the other stuff is just fluff compared to an afflicted Moon (by the outers), imo. IP: Logged
BeholdAstarte Knowflake Posts: 491 From: astral plane Registered: Dec 2009	posted June 27, 2016 06:10 PM hard aspects / conj to Saturn. Capricorn/Aquarius angular pluto conj/angular mars IP: Logged
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 54 From: Registered: Jun 2016	posted June 27, 2016 06:25 PM quote: Originally posted by aquagembaby: Saturn transiting 11H. You kinda start "cleaning house" and friendships or associations you had will end and only the ones that are truly necessary will stay. Saturn transiting 12H also did it for me personally Yes, me too!!!! The two times Saturn has been in my 11th (Scorpio), it's been brutally lonely and isolating. Once it moved iinto the 12th last, it was still still lonely but a bit better. And then things were not lonely anymore when it was in my first and second. I have Cap Rising and Saturn is my chart ruler. I'll see if the pattern repeats itself this time around. IP: Logged
aquagembaby Knowflake Posts: 519 From: Registered: Jun 2012	posted June 28, 2016 01:18 AM quote: Originally posted by Lucia23: Yes, me too!!!! The two times Saturn has been in my 11th (Scorpio), it's been brutally lonely and isolating. Once it moved iinto the 12th last, it was still still lonely but a bit better. And then things were not lonely anymore when it was in my first and second. I have Cap Rising and Saturn is my chart ruler. I'll see if the pattern repeats itself this time around. Ugh yeah Saturn is on my ASC now so it's not as intense but the past 6 months was pretty bad. Well good to hear that 1H won't be as lonesome. IP: Logged
Electro DGX Knowflake Posts: 889 From: Another Galaxy Registered: Jul 2015	posted June 29, 2016 12:52 AM Thanks for all the responses! I have a lot of these things. I have Saturn in the 6th in Aries, but it is conjunct the DSC. I have a stellium conjunct the IC (Merc, Neptune, Sun, and Uranus), with Sun and Uranus in the 4th. I do have a strong Neptune influence as well as Pluto, and I have a fourth house stellium of three planets (Sun, Uranus, Venus). My Moon is in the 8th house opposite Pluto, and I have a Scorpio Mars conjunct Ascendant. I also have Moon opposite Chiron, albeit at eight degrees, so I'm not really sure if it is worth considering (if the orb is acceptable). My Moon only has the two afflictions previously stated, everything else is harmonious (considering Major aspects). ------------------ Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First 8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine Uranus Have you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet? IP: Logged
whaaat Knowflake Posts: 589 From: Portland, MA,U.S Registered: Jun 2013	posted June 29, 2016 02:48 AM . IP: Logged
visions Knowflake Posts: 355 From: france Registered: Feb 2010	posted June 29, 2016 03:11 AM i have 12th saturn conjunct ascendant square to MC and i have been alone all my life. IP: Logged
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 2031 From: Registered: May 2009	posted June 29, 2016 03:55 AM Or how about Saturn in the 1st opposite Venus/Uranus in the 7th H. When I was 19 I read Steppenwolf by Herman Hesse - the epitome of what it feels like to be a loner - there is a lot of self pity tied in with loneliness. But it captivated me and still does at times. I've swayed away from bitter loneliness by staying busy but sometimes I'll experience bursts of loneliness and the pang of feeling that I'll never belong with someone and then I tell myself, "oh, V, get over yourself." IP: Logged

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