posted June 30, 2016 01:45 PM            

my Saturn and Neptune are conj in the 9th and my Uranus is on the cusp of 8/9 also conj. probably contributing to my eager fascination with tribal mysticism.

So.. I have these medicine cards, and when first getting the deck, at some point you pull your totem spread that represents your 7 animal medicine. the first 4 cards were so perfect it was almost comical, bat, black panther, lizard, then butterfly. When I was reading about the Bat totem.. it talks about the concept of "rebirth" and it gives a shamanic ritual as an example.. of the concept of resurrecting oneself, by having a symbolic death, which is created physically through digging a hole and burying oneself only to be reborn again. This story really made an impression on me.. I could relate to it on so many levels, it reminds me of my strong Pluto presence..
Ive done other readings on shamanism and having an ego death at some point is in a way a crucial factor in becoming a shaman. To be taken apart, then put back together and taken to the edge of the veil on reality and spirit. Its essentially the healed wounded healer. in order to know how to heal others we must heal ourselves and be reborn. Everything about these concepts are so synchronized with Pluto I feel and as I start to think about it, many very spiritually inclined peoples that I know, have very prominent plutos. While on a trip to costa rica.. I met a group of people I will never forget meeting! who was a very mystical group of channelers, reiki master, little shaman and spiritual junkies to say the least.. but 3 of them had prominent Plutos and were very drawn to shamanism and just living a deeply meaningful, healing life.

I have read before though I cannot remember the reference right away.. but it had to do with my venus/pluto conj in scorpio and it said how scorpio/pluto is drawn to shamanism and mystical, earthy types of mysticism. which immediately rang true to me.

posted July 01, 2016 04:52 AM            

I'm strongly drawn to shamanism and have ancestral connections to it too.

posted July 01, 2016 04:00 PM            

@Dancing Maenad oooOOoooo cool! sounds about right with her pluto virgo in the healing profession! if you don't mind me asking, what does anaretic mean?

posted July 01, 2016 09:36 PM            

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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
what is NDE? pisces would certainly help in that sphere, how scary to see spirits at such a young age! no matter how fascinated I am, everytime ive had to encounter a ghost its really scary

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NDE = Near Death Experience

He was electrocuted from playing a game he called "plug" in which he'd stick things into electrical sockets (as electricity was magical to him). One day he did it with his mother's keys and found himself outside his body and didn't even realize anything was odd until his mother ran right through him (which is why I dismiss the skeptic's explanation that this experience is shaped by belief and expectation).

Interesting enough, there was a glow in the dark clock that had always scared him (in retrospect, he believes he sensed them as animal eyes in the dark), and when his mother switched the power off, he turned to the clock expecting to be scared...but wasn't. He found that odd as well, and then that's all he remembers (his mother pulled him away from the socket and used CPR on him).

He'd later get taken from that home and put into another that was abusive, and he believes that's why he had such terrible nightmares as a little boy, but it could've been shamanic in nature as well (it included nightmares of him being dismembered). The spirit sensing (which included seeing and hearing, sometimes so he thought it was a real person) were so common that he got used to it, but there were a few scary incidents.

But one started as a "breathing" under his bed, which stopped whenever he called out to his parents, and was terrified for awhile, but finally started talking, with the breathing slowly becoming a raspy voice, and he said it was like "tuning into a station," it was very difficult to make out (though the breathing was audible) for a long while, and they became friends, but they could only speak in his room for some reason, though he'd also visit in dreams (in which the spirit appeared as a blond boy his own age wearing white who showed him the future in incredible detail, all literal). The spirit also told him that his mother was listening to them talk and when he checked, she was.

He doesn't know why, but his friend was just gone one day, never to return...save, maybe, one time. He was 14 and caught in a giant pool that generated artificial waves, and he realized he was going to drown. A large blond man, a lifeguard in white trunks, was yelling at him like a drill sergeant to swim to him, and though it was near impossible he did, and then, utterly exhausted, realized that lifeguard saved his life...but when he looked around, no such lifeguard existed. He believes it was his friend who took on the form of an authority figure to save his life, though the spirit hadn't talked to him in years (and never did again after this, not even in dreams).

When he told me that was when I told him that his NDE probably opened him up to the spirit realm and he thought that made a lot of sense. He'd get into actual shamanistic practices as an adult (before we met).

posted July 02, 2016 03:30 PM            

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@SaturnFan thank you! how did your transit go? pretty soon I'm going to have my pluto conj my MH.. I'm pretty interested in how that's gonna go! my pluto is in my 9th right meow, it makes so much sense to me that pluto placed here would be drawn to shamanism. that's so neat you have ancestry in shamanism, just having that kind of connection or influence would be so lovely I think..

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posted July 05, 2016 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
NDE = Near Death Experience

He was electrocuted from playing a game he called "plug" in which he'd stick things into electrical sockets (as electricity was magical to him). One day he did it with his mother's keys and found himself outside his body and didn't even realize anything was odd until his mother ran right through him (which is why I dismiss the skeptic's explanation that this experience is shaped by belief and expectation).

Interesting enough, there was a glow in the dark clock that had always scared him (in retrospect, he believes he sensed them as animal eyes in the dark), and when his mother switched the power off, he turned to the clock expecting to be scared...but wasn't. He found that odd as well, and then that's all he remembers (his mother pulled him away from the socket and used CPR on him).

He'd later get taken from that home and put into another that was abusive, and he believes that's why he had such terrible nightmares as a little boy, but it could've been shamanic in nature as well (it included nightmares of him being dismembered). The spirit sensing (which included seeing and hearing, sometimes so he thought it was a real person) were so common that he got used to it, but there were a few scary incidents.

But one started as a "breathing" under his bed, which stopped whenever he called out to his parents, and was terrified for awhile, but finally started talking, with the breathing slowly becoming a raspy voice, and he said it was like "tuning into a station," it was very difficult to make out (though the breathing was audible) for a long while, and they became friends, but they could only speak in his room for some reason, though he'd also visit in dreams (in which the spirit appeared as a blond boy his own age wearing white who showed him the future in incredible detail, all literal). The spirit also told him that his mother was listening to them talk and when he checked, she was.

He doesn't know why, but his friend was just gone one day, never to return...save, maybe, one time. He was 14 and caught in a giant pool that generated artificial waves, and he realized he was going to drown. A large blond man, a lifeguard in white trunks, was yelling at him like a drill sergeant to swim to him, and though it was near impossible he did, and then, utterly exhausted, realized that lifeguard saved his life...but when he looked around, no such lifeguard existed. He believes it was his friend who took on the form of an authority figure to save his life, though the spirit hadn't talked to him in years (and never did again after this, not even in dreams).

When he told me that was when I told him that his NDE probably opened him up to the spirit realm and he thought that made a lot of sense. He'd get into actual shamanistic practices as an adult (before we met).

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wow that's a really awesome story, very interesting! do you know what his other placements are other than pisces moon?
its so cool to me how theres this underlying and connecting theme that leads to shamanic practices, being dreams, spirits and terrifying death experiences.. ha