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ChildofVenus
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posted July 10, 2016 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm currently going through my first Saturn Return. Or at least it feels like it. I'm in my late 20's and I just don't know what outcome to expect.

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posted July 11, 2016 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yours has not quite started yet. But you're getting there.

It's going to be quite interesting because you have Saturn conjunct Uranus natally, and you are also going through a transit Uranus trine Saturn. So that tells me your Saturn return won't give you a sense of limitation like it typically does for most people.

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Let's see, T. Saturn is in your 4th H. I would imagine with this placement that your roots are being crystallized - maybe your maturing more on a domestic manner?

I also have Saturn conjunct Uranus in late Sag in the 1 st house tho.

T. Saturn has been conjunct the ASC - which I've definitely noticed.

I'm just adulting better than I ever have. I got a better job, I'm okay with being single, I exercise more etc...

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posted July 11, 2016 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you say maturing more on domestic manners what exactly do you mean?
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Let's see, T. Saturn is in your 4th H. I would imagine with this placement that your roots are being crystallized - maybe your maturing more on a domestic manner?

I also have Saturn conjunct Uranus in late Sag in the 1 st house tho.

T. Saturn has been conjunct the ASC - which I've definitely noticed.

I'm just adulting better than I ever have. I got a better job, I'm okay with being single, I exercise more etc...


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posted July 11, 2016 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because I have Saturn and Uranus in the 4th house. I just wonder if it means I may end up relocating. I don't know I hope something happens in regards to me having a better career.
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Yours has not quite started yet. But you're getting there.

It's going to be quite interesting because you have Saturn conjunct Uranus natally, and you are also going through a transit Uranus trine Saturn. So that tells me your Saturn return won't give you a sense of limitation like it typically does for most people.


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posted July 11, 2016 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OP, It does look like you may have to move and that you will find something out of the sudden, that will give you some kind of stable home.

I am afraid on the career front, you will have to wait until Saturn stops opposing your house of career...

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posted July 11, 2016 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What in the chart shows I may have to move? And which house is the house of career? What about college? I'm thinking about taking more classes in a few months.
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OP, It does look like you may have to move and that you will find something out of the sudden, that will give you some kind of stable home.

I am afraid on the career front, you will have to wait until Saturn stops opposing your house of career...


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posted July 11, 2016 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
different understanding of children, romance, creative activities. Matters related to debt, other people's money, shared resources, sex and all things hidden will be brought out to the open, which allows you to find your true life path.

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posted July 11, 2016 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hon Solo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm the same. Saturn for me is also in Sagittarius 20 degrees, Uranus in Sagittarius 26 degrees (I'm in my late 20s now).

Things will get interesting for us with the Saturn return just before next year. In northern hemisphere it is also the darkest time of the year, so... hmm!

Transiting Saturn was squaring my Sun a couple of months ago, and I think that was the first time I really realized, how tough Saturn can be. It felt like I can't accomplish anything no matter how much I try try try. I felt incredibly angry.

Saturn for me is in the 6th House, so I guess there will be possibly more challenges at work or something similar. I'm actually contemplating on changing my job, not the field per se, but the place (maybe the city as well), but I'm not sure if it's wise idea, as things are not that bad right now. I am trying to think whether Saturn would think of the change as a good idea or not (Uranus definitely would think!).

Did you feel like you were not secure growing up? Or did you otherwise have a very restrictive home? Maybe you can, due to the Saturn return, "free" yourself from the domestic restrictions you've experienced. Maybe a relocation, maybe in some way else?

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Yes growing up I had a very restrictive home and I am still living with my parents. And I still feel restricted being the only child my parents were very protective. To this day they are still like this for example I like to travel. I live in Ohio but I like taking trips to California. Yet they give me a hard time in regards to travelling alone. I do understand that they want me to be safe but I wish they would let up on me. There is someone in California who I enjoy spending time with. Which is why I go there but my parents don't know about this person. For me it's kind of like an escape so I don't want them knowing about this person.
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I'm the same. Saturn for me is also in Sagittarius 20 degrees, Uranus in Sagittarius 26 degrees (I'm in my late 20s now).

Things will get interesting for us with the Saturn return just before next year. In northern hemisphere it is also the darkest time of the year, so... hmm!

Transiting Saturn was squaring my Sun a couple of months ago, and I think that was the first time I really realized, how tough Saturn can be. It felt like I can't accomplish anything no matter how much I try try try. I felt incredibly angry.

Saturn for me is in the 6th House, so I guess there will be possibly more challenges at work or something similar. I'm actually contemplating on changing my job, not the field per se, but the place (maybe the city as well), but I'm not sure if it's wise idea, as things are not that bad right now. I am trying to think whether Saturn would think of the change as a good idea or not (Uranus definitely would think!).

Did you feel like you were not secure growing up? Or did you otherwise have a very restrictive home? Maybe you can, due to the Saturn return, "free" yourself from the domestic restrictions you've experienced. Maybe a relocation, maybe in some way else?


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posted July 11, 2016 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you mean by different understanding? Also would this be a good or bad thing?
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different understanding of children, romance, creative activities. Matters related to debt, other people's money, shared resources, sex and all things hidden will be brought out to the open, which allows you to find your true life path.

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posted July 11, 2016 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Currently I do have a stable home but I do feel like I want to relocate.
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OP, It does look like you may have to move and that you will find something out of the sudden, that will give you some kind of stable home.

I am afraid on the career front, you will have to wait until Saturn stops opposing your house of career...


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posted July 11, 2016 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 11, 2016 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ari-Sco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Yours has not quite started yet. But you're getting there.

It's going to be quite interesting because you have Saturn conjunct Uranus natally, and you are also going through a transit Uranus trine Saturn. So that tells me your Saturn return won't give you a sense of limitation like it typically does for most people.


I do have saturn and uranus and neptune conjunct natally also all in the 3rd house so whats the difference ? and sun squaring all of them natally also (Sun is in the 6th house)

I'm curious about one more thing .. what's the difference between people having saturn return for a long time (when it includes Rx) so they will have saturn conjunct saturn 3 times so it will last more than 6 months and between when someone have saturn return for a month only (During normal Direct period)and which one is more difficult or intense ?


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posted July 11, 2016 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ari-Sco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Belage:
Yours has not quite started yet. But you're getting there.

It's going to be quite interesting because you have Saturn conjunct Uranus natally, and you are also going through a transit Uranus trine Saturn. So that tells me your Saturn return won't give you a sense of limitation like it typically does for most people.


I do have saturn and uranus and neptune conjunct natally also all in the 3rd house so whats the difference ? and sun squaring all of them natally also (Sun is in the 6th house)

I'm curious about one more thing .. what's the difference of the people having saturn return for a long time (when it includes Rx) so the will have saturn conjunct saturn 3 times so it will last more than 6 months and between when someone have saturn return for a month only (During normal Direct period)and which one is more difficult or intense ?


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posted July 11, 2016 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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What do you mean by different understanding? Also would this be a good or bad thing?

Something will happen in your home life that force you to change your attitude towards work, children and creativity.

your jupiter (ruler of Sag) is in 8th house with your stellium and Uranus is currently in Aries as well. So your 8th house issues will be brought up as well.

I can't say if things are "good" or "bad."

Your chart is a blueprint of the gifts and lessons you need to learn in this life time.

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posted July 11, 2016 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if I have any 8th house issues. I only have Venus in the 8th house and Jupiter. I just wonder what could happen in my home that would make me change my mind about children. I'm actually on the fence in regards to children. Sometimes I say I don't want children but then again I think that maybe I would one day. As far as marriage goes it's not something that I really feel like I need in my life. But I probably feel that way because of the Venus/Uranus aspect in my chart.

Belage mentioned that I may have to end up relocating. I know it's not a guarantee that it will happen though.

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Something will happen in your home life that force you to change your attitude towards work, children and creativity.

your jupiter (ruler of Sag) is in 8th house with your stellium and Uranus is currently in Aries as well. So your 8th house issues will be brought up as well.

I can't say if things are "good" or "bad."

Your chart is a blueprint of the gifts and lessons you need to learn in this life time.


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posted July 11, 2016 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Currently I do have a stable home but I do feel like I want to relocate.


I said that you may have to move because your saturn return will be enjoying a nice trine from Uranus in Aries, and maybe even a sextile from Jupiter in Libra. So do not be surprised if an opportunity to move somewhere wonderful arises out of the blue.

Your natal conjunction of Saturn and Uranus must feel like a push and pull, the urge to stay put vs the urge to break free. Your Saturn return will be followed by transit Saturn conjunct natal Uranus while trine Transit Uranus... Yeahh, it's going to be interesting. Like I said, your Saturn return is going to be much less limiting than the usual Saturn return. And it's all happening in your 4th house.

It may happen in your home/house, or it may also happen in your emotional world.

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posted July 11, 2016 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know why it feels like it's already started. Maybe because it's getting closer. I think I read it's suppose to start in December of this year. Thanks for your input I appreciate it. And yes I do feel like I want to relocate but then I think about my family like my parents. I know they wouldn't want me to go but sometimes I feel like I need a change.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
[b]Currently I do have a stable home but I do feel like I want to relocate.


I said that you may have to move because your saturn return will be enjoying a nice trine from Uranus in Aries, and maybe even a sextile from Jupiter in Libra. So do not be surprised if an opportunity to move somewhere wonderful arises out of the blue.

Your natal conjunction of Saturn and Uranus must feel like a push and pull, the urge to stay put vs the urge to break free. Your Saturn return will be followed by transit Saturn conjunct natal Uranus while trine Transit Uranus... Yeahh, it's going to be interesting. Like I said, your Saturn return is going to be much less limiting than the usual Saturn return. And it's all happening in your 4th house.

It may happen in your home/house, or it may also happen in your emotional world. [/B][/QUOTE]

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posted July 12, 2016 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just wonder about my career because I'm not sure how I would be able to relocate without one. Hopefully Saturn won't be in opposition to my career house for long.

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posted July 12, 2016 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hon Solo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yet they give me a hard time in regards to travelling alone. I do understand that they want me to be safe but I wish they would let up on me.

They seem to be having a hard time letting you go, and that can feel very restricting. They want to parent you until eternity, but I think most parents are like that. Don't you think a little more rebelling here and there would do you good? At least your Uranus would appreciate that, right? Could you think of telling them the reason you go to California? They might get upset first but then realize that you have your life to live. I am just guessing, I don't know the best option or the actual outcome here.

Well, here's what I think: Saturn appreciates taking action, but not without consideration. Saturn return forces one to take action (move elsewhere, change careers, start studying again etc.), and Saturn can show in a harsh way those things in which the change is needed. (Sometimes Saturn wants to remind that just considering, endlessly considering, just isn't enough, and action is needed?)

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posted July 12, 2016 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there any way to tell whether or not a certain person will be a part of your Saturn return?

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posted July 15, 2016 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes me being the only child makes it even worse. So Saturn in the 4th house makes for a restrictive childhood? Now I understand why I had it hard growing up. I do understand I guess I'm just anxious about my Saturn Return because I feel like I need a change. And having Uranus in the 4th house makes me want to rebel against anything that has to do with my household.
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They seem to be having a hard time letting you go, and that can feel very restricting. They want to parent you until eternity, but I think most parents are like that. Don't you think a little more rebelling here and there would do you good? At least your Uranus would appreciate that, right? Could you think of telling them the reason you go to California? They might get upset first but then realize that you have your life to live. I am just guessing, I don't know the best option or the actual outcome here.

Well, here's what I think: Saturn appreciates taking action, but not without consideration. Saturn return forces one to take action (move elsewhere, change careers, start studying again etc.), and Saturn can show in a harsh way those things in which the change is needed. (Sometimes Saturn wants to remind that just considering, endlessly considering, just isn't enough, and action is needed?)


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I always say that the Saturn return is like an exam that you pass or fail. If you fail, you get another try in approximately 28 years.

The "test" is to both discipline and liberate yourself in the Saturn area---to bravely say NO to what society, family, a squelching inner voice, your internalized superego say you SHOULD do, unless it reflects your truest, happiest self and deepest dreams, and to do what you would do out of love and interest if you had no obstacles and 100% certainly you would succeed.

If you're doing anything in your Saturn house/sign that's based on a sense of duty, obligation, pressure, inertia or not wanting to rock the boat, the Saturn Return will usually make "settling" like that so painful that you must either man up and get brave and live your most passionate life, or sink into 28 years of feeling miserably restricted.

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posted July 15, 2016 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I didn't know it was like a test and that I could possibly "fail" I mean I would like to move etc. But because Saturn is in opposition of my career house. I'm not sure how I'd actually be able to make any changes if I don't have a good career or at least have the money to do so.
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I always say that the Saturn return is like an exam that you pass or fail. If you fail, you get another try in approximately 28 years.

The "test" is to both discipline and liberate yourself in the Saturn area---to bravely say NO to what society, family, a squelching inner voice, your internalized superego say you SHOULD do, unless it reflects your truest, happiest self and deepest dreams, and to do what you would do out of love and interest if you had no obstacles and 100% certainly you would succeed.

If you're doing anything in your Saturn house/sign that's based on a sense of duty, obligation, pressure, inertia or not wanting to rock the boat, the Saturn Return will usually make "settling" like that so painful that you must either man up and get brave and live your most passionate life, or sink into 28 years of feeling miserably restricted.


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