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Topic: Sagittarius Moon - How faithful/reliable are they in love?
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next to neptune
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posted July 13, 2016 03:32 AM
  
Can you count on a Sag moon? I don't really know the nature of a Sag according to love... I guess they are mutable and flexible so they might not stay if things gets though? Or do they? Will they stand by your side when everything burns? Would it help if this sag moon was added with taurus sun/venus ? IP: Logged |
firemoon
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posted July 13, 2016 04:58 AM
We are hopeless and never ever reliable!!! Don't doubt us obviously we are the scum of the earth...IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted July 13, 2016 06:50 AM
I see no reason why they wouldn't be faithful/reliable, if there is understanding with their Moon's motivations and fears.Sagittarius along with Aquarius are notoriously fixated with freedom and revealing the truth, but with Moon there, emotional expression would need to be authentic.
I would say they have little tolerance for actions or body language conflicting with words. Which is a common theme in our society that is afraid to be vulnerable and honest. People talk of the Sag and Aqua flightiness, however, I feel this only happens when the search for authenticity fails.
It's not about seeking depth per se, but truth, reality.
They are simply not able to hang around long when they have revealed something or someone to be inauthentic, it loses its attraction. You're gonna get unfaithful people with all Moons though, and for different reasons, so the question is sort of doomed from the start.
I suspect loyalty and reliability have more to do with interaspects in the natal chart, and triggered by synastry, than simply one solitary moon sign with no stimulation from its environment. IP: Logged |
Yanmorg
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posted July 13, 2016 08:55 AM
I dated a Scorpio man with Moon, Mercury, and Venus in Sagittarius on and off for 7 years. He was the biggest liar ever and even until this very day, he doesn't take responsibility for anything. He's a womanizer and values his freedom way too much to ever commit to anyone. His devotion to you is tied into what you can do for him. Sagittarius is all about expansion and growth but if expressed negatively, he could use relationship as a "train ticket". His Moon is conjunct NN so this probably changes things in general, but he still fits the Sagittarius description perfectly. My dad is a Sagittarius and I have Mars in Sagittarius so I'm pretty familiar with the energy. I have a lot of Pluto and Saturn in my chart so although my actions are questionable sometimes, I'm pretty stable and grounded. Not Sagittarius. My father is flighty and doesn't take responsibility for anything either. Sagittarius is all about blind optimism. Nothing else matters. IP: Logged |
SDragon
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posted July 13, 2016 09:07 AM
My brother is a Sag moon with Cancer sun. He's one of the most loyal, honest and emotionally free person I know. Emotionally free being, yes, he likes ppl to be authentic and true with their feelings. IP: Logged |
Lerena
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posted July 13, 2016 10:19 AM
My brother is a Cancer Sun with a Sagittarius Moon. I can't answer how reliable he is romantically, but I'm 100% sure he's not the cheating type. You can expect a great deal of loyalty from him. Just watch out for his temper.IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted July 13, 2016 11:23 AM
--nvm-- IP: Logged |
DopGang
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posted July 13, 2016 11:35 AM
I wouldn't call anyone faithful or unfaithful based on astrology alone.
What vibes, signs, feelings about this person do you have?
Are those feelings actually from them or in your head?
Even the unfaithful can be faithful and vice versa.
Not to mention that putting such things on moon alone is almost pointless. I'm not against generalisation, but this question is specific enough that the generalised answers sought are close to meaningless. IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted July 13, 2016 11:44 AM
My ex who turned out to be a liar has Sag Moon-Neptune-Uranus in the 12th house (Uranus moves to the 11th in Placidus.). When I first looked at his chart, I thought, 'oh, this guy will have to fight off tendencies toward infidelity, wanting to take long trips on his own far away, and Neptunian escapism'----but I didn't know the half of it. he lied A LOT, and he had all these secret email relationships with people in foreign countries that were based on him lying about his life. This problem pre-dated me and our relationship, and the other men I had been with (however flawed) were pretty honest, I never learned of them lying or cheating. It was soooo out of my frame of reference and I never could have predicted it. Lots of people I know have cheated in relationships, like, by having actual sex with a real person!! But they're adults. This was the kind of behavior I would expect from a mentally ill 13-year-old, not a man in his thirties. ANYWAY. I do think Sag Moon can be an infidelity red flag. Most Sag Moon people aren't afflicted like my ex, but Sag placements in general can lead the person to want to adventure into new experiences. Other tendencies in the chart or the native's personal moral code need to be there to curb that big Jupiterian Saggie feeling of "I'm interested in this new person, so I'm going to act on this feeling." IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted July 13, 2016 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Would it help if this sag moon was added with taurus sun/venus ?
My ex has a Taurus Venus in the 4th house. It helps him sort of keep his big body dutifully in place in his hometown/family while he disappears into his lying-to-people-in-foreign-countries-on-the-internet activities, and it brings him physically back home when he goes on his occasional spontaneous long trips far away. It keeps him leadenly, dutifully rooted to his family of origin, to whom he is unquestioningly loyal but not honest. He compartmentalizes and hides all his 12th house Sag Moon-Neptune activities, good and bad (lying, traveling, drugs, playing music) away from his 4th house family activities (Taurus Venus, Aries Sun-Merc-Mars) in the 4th. It's hard to describe how he's so dutiful without having ANY personal integrity!!
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Ceridwen
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posted July 13, 2016 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
People talk of the Sag and Aqua flightiness, however, I feel this only happens when the search for authenticity fails.
It's not about seeking depth per se, but truth, reality.
They are simply not able to hang around long when they have revealed something or someone to be inauthentic, it loses its attraction.
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Absolutely true. Yes. 
I have Moon in Aquarius, my little brother has Moonin Sagittarius - and we are both exactly like that. As long as a feeling is genuine, we stay. But we don`t compromise real feelings (if we recognize them as what they are) for security, like being with someone just to fulfill some social expectations or to have someone and not be alone.
BTW he has been with his girlfriend for 10 years this year and they are expecting their first child any moment now.  IP: Logged |
Dancing Maenad
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posted July 13, 2016 12:52 PM
Depends. If my partner is clingy and closed minded then he can't count on me, sorry. But if you allow me the freedom to come and go as I please, I will stay. I have never cheated, though I've been tempted to, when the relationship I was in was on the verge of breaking and it felt like we were no longer on the same team. But while I can control myself and not cheat, I also won't stay in a bad relationship. I will always prefer the single life to an unhappy couple life. Moon rules my DC and I have Taurus Venus. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted July 13, 2016 12:54 PM
DM, I can subscribe to your post word for word. IP: Logged |
Yanmorg
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posted July 13, 2016 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Depends. If my partner is clingy and closed minded then he can't count on me, sorry. But if you allow me the freedom to come and go as I please, I will stay. I have never cheated, though I've been tempted to, when the relationship I was in was on the verge of breaking and it felt like we were no longer on the same team. But while I can control myself and not cheat, I also won't stay in a bad relationship. I will always prefer the single life to an unhappy couple life. Moon rules my DC and I have Taurus Venus.
I disagree. I gave mine all the freedom he wanted once we got settled which was probably like 2 years in. He still wasn't satisfied. Their appetitite for new experiences outweighs any stable commitment they might have. There's no doubt they love you in their own twisted way, but it still doesn't stop them from doing whatever they want to do. That's just the Sagittarius nature. They value friends more than lovers for this reason so if you managed to make them feel like you're both a friend and lover, then you may have bagged them. I wasn't so successful. I believe a relationship is supposed to be deeper than a friend connection although friendship is supposed to be there too. IP: Logged |
curiouspisces89
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posted July 13, 2016 02:31 PM
I have dated a Sagittarius look for few years and I attracted very often. The people that I know are faithful but they do not want to commit or they are very scared of commitment!! I also have to agree with the person above that they are liars and very good liars as well so you won't know when they are lying to you. They want freedom above all. My advise is if you are looking for a long term relationship that can progress into something bigger stay away from them. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted July 13, 2016 02:49 PM
All Sags are not the same.
So the real answer to the question above sounds - it cannot be answered, as it is just ONE piece of the puzzle. And there are Sagittarius Moons who lie and cheat, as well as those who are faithful and honest.
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Faith
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posted July 13, 2016 05:11 PM
I hope yours is the kind who cheats, Ceri.  Just kidding Why would I say anything crazy like that. On point: My Sag moon friend has been married a long time and adores her husband. She told me she has a crush on one of her male co-workers. She told her husband about the crush, and he laughed at her. Because he's so confident in their love, it doesn't matter if she has crushes. She thinks it is adorable and hilarious that her husband doesn't get mad. Just the fact that he is the kind of person she can admit that to speaks volumes about their level of honesty with each other, and the health of their relationship. ^ I'll delete this part about my friend later IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted July 13, 2016 05:39 PM
A huge issue in a relationship is whether the two people's definitions and standards of honesty and fidelity match up. You can have a polyamorous couple who doesn't see sex with other people as "cheating"---or a couple where the other going out for a meal alone with a coworker would not be at all okay.I read a definition that works great for me (I'm Leo, Cancer Moon/Venus)---"any act of emotional or sexual intimacy that betrays trust." My personal rule of thumb is, if you wouldn't do it right in front of your partner, don't do it. Some people of each of the 12 moon signs are troubled and damaged. When we're talking about responsible, healthy people, being a partner your partner can count on involves having COMPATIBLE ideas about fidelity, commitment and trust, and caring about your partner's individual feelings and views on those issues. Of COURSE every individual piece of astrological energy, like the Moon sign, needs to be viewed holistically with the rest of the chart....but, the entire practice of this kind of astrology is premised on categorization and some degree of stereotyping. And I would never read mutable fire energy and say, "this energy means once this person is in a relationship, he/she will never even look at another person." I would say, this energy confers openness and adventurousness on the native. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted July 13, 2016 05:54 PM
Faith,"I hope yours is the kind who cheats, Ceri."
I really hope not. Well of course I am torn on that issue; or actually I am not torn, I am VERY clear. As much as I am attracted to him, I wouldn`t do that. I couldn`t look into a mirror anymore!
And if he did, I couldn`t respect him anymore and certainly not trust him. If he cheated on HER; he would cheat one me, too.
See my dilemma? 
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theunknown
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posted July 13, 2016 05:56 PM
Every sign has a horde of cheaters. The famously "loyal" Venus in Scorpio cheat too... Just not the sorts that you'll find out in 3 months. Rather, you find out about them 10 years later (remember Ethan Hawke, or Meg Ryan)?Might as well just live your life and stop trying to control everything. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted July 13, 2016 06:05 PM
Sag is flexible, but also resilient. Sag moon would, I think, be less insecure than many other moons, and so not be as troubled as other moons in the first place, and also have a more positive attitude about problems that do arise. At least this has been the case with me.I expect it would depend if Sag moon thinks of it as a fling or as relationship (though you and a Sag moon might define a fling differently). Flings are easily dropped, relationships not. That said, if a relationship looks doomed then I expect they can move on easier than others, and without the bitterness (and desire for revenge) that others would feel toward to a former partner. Going by what I observe (including my own 5H Sag moon, though I'm not sure how much is my upbringing), that is generally the case. That aside...you can't really say if any moon will be dependable. There are too many other factors, astrological (including synastry) and other. I expect my 3H Libra stellium (that includes Saturn and Pluto) makes me more likely to work through the hard times (in part because I expect them and feel lucky that it's rarely that bad), and a mix of philosophical Sag with a (sextile) Libra trying to be fair (not to be confused with spineless or easy to manipulate, the people who make that mistake learn, often to their sorrow, that we have iron fists in our velvet gloves) makes me the way I am. If anything, the Sag moon makes me more resilient and less insecure so that I probably won't even realize there "is a problem" that the other is secretly obsessing about, as what they call a problem, I call life and carry on (I love my Sag moon). IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted July 13, 2016 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
See my dilemma?
edit Yes, that's the real answer. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted July 14, 2016 08:34 AM
What do you mean, Faith? 4
I did not see what you wrote. IP: Logged |
Southern Sun
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posted July 14, 2016 08:53 AM
I'll run if he is too dependent on me, but I will never cheat IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted July 14, 2016 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
What do you mean, Faith? 4
I did not see what you wrote.
Oh, I was just teasing you about how far you two already carry things on another level...making a joke about it...then I realized, maybe I was being insensitive. So I opted for a more sincere answer. IP: Logged |
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