posted July 16, 2016 12:22 AM            

One factor I think holds serious potential when it comes to pin-pointing creativity is the fifth house. Many people may not realize that like Pisces, Leo can be creative as well because creativity can be described as a form of self-expression, and as you should know, Leo really knows how to express themselves. Check out what the fifth house is doing in your natal chart in order to see what's going on for you in creative matters. If there's nothing there, you may not feel as expressive in creative matters as those who have a packed fifth house. Heck, it doesn't even have to be a bunch of planets; I only have Jupiter in my fifth and I'm quite creative. The planet in the fifth house can describe your approach to creative matters and the type of creativity you like to indulge in. With my Jupiter in the 5th in Pisces, I often indulge in emotional music of various cultures and genres, ranging from Orchestra to Dubstep to Japanese Music and even Atonal Music (weird, isn't it lol).

Planets I like to look at when determining this are Mercury, Venus, Uranus, Moon, and Neptune. Quite a bit of planets yes, but seeing what these planets are doing in your natal chart can give you clues as to how creative you may be. Neptune is a planet you should really pay attention to, and I mean it; this planet is usually the first one looks to for creativity. I have A three-way connection between my Merc-Neptune and Sun, so naturally I am a creative individual. I also have Moon Trine Neptune, which allows a seamless flow of emotions into creative matters such as expression through music. Hard aspects can possibly indicate a "lock" on your creativity, where you feel you may not be able to express it, or the other way around in where you may be "overly creative" in which you can indulge in it so much that it can potentially cause issues. I'm not going to go into the issues right now, but seeing how these planets work with one another can give you ideas.

Mercury is an important planet to look at when it comes to writing. Mercury-Neptune aspects, especially the conjunction and harmonious aspects, are aspects in which you can literally take what you are thinking and put it to paper in the most dynamic of ways. Your imagination is your fuel and your pen/keyboard (in my case lol) is your linkage to the paper. It is also an important planet to look at when it comes to singing. Those with Mercury-Venus aspects can have such beautiful voices that can allow for them to be known as "beautiful singers" for their voice literally captivates the audience.

Also, looking at the third house can determine your skill in singing. Having planets there DOES NOT mean you can sing; I have Mercury and Neptune there and I cannot sing to save my life. I hate my voice (Scorpio Rising thing?). Having planets there can determine how your voice sounds though, and if you are a singer, it can determine the type of voice you would output as a singer.

I would say the Moon is also important because it is the root of creativity; your emotions. Of course, unless you have no self-drive and just do what everyone else does, the moon will describe the type of emotions you may evoke in your music, as will planets in your fifth house. Paying attention to both of these can be helpful in determining such. My Moon is in Gemini, so often my emotions are constantly changing and they flip-flop, yet being in the 8th they are intensified to extremes, and this can be represented in my music if you are indulging in it lol.

I didn't list this planet, but Mars can also be potentially helpful in determining the drive behind your creativity. I've been using music as an example, but remember that this goes for all art forms. My Mars sits in Scorpio, so often I am driven by powerful emotions invoked in music when I decide to create. Looking at this can help determine what makes you go on a creative spree lol.

That is all I currently have at the moment. Feel free to comment your thoughts; I would love to hear them. Hopefully you find this useful when it comes to determining what makes you a creative soul, and have a nice day

posted July 16, 2016 01:59 AM            

For what it's worth, the only planet not in either stellium is Jupiter, which is in Scorpio in between my packed stelliums. (Most of my Libra and Sag placements are also on the Scorpio cusp, and that might contribute to themes of character growth so radical that it's a rebirth, heroes can become villains and villains become heroes, though my writings are usually have too many shades of grey for clear heroes & villains, and sometimes the heroic are self-righteous fools worse than the evils they fight while those who see themselves as villains might actually have a soft spot that they hide with creative excuses to offer a helping hand or to do the right thing.)

posted July 16, 2016 02:00 AM            

My BFF (who has Pisces Merc, moon, and Mars) tends to hook up with musician boyfriends, but they're not the good kinds. I've learned so many anti-musician jokes that in their case can be true. (For example, "What do you call a musician who just broke up with his girlfriend? Homeless.")

posted July 16, 2016 02:23 AM            

I'm wondering if those with heavy 12th house placements would be considered creative individuals? I guess we'll have to see if anyone here has 12th house placements and is creative in some form.

As a musician, I often go solo because my ideas may often clash with others. I've tried collabing with other artists, and it just hasn't worked out. Often their ideas are too different and such so it never really works out.

posted July 16, 2016 03:26 AM            

I'm a Leo Sun/ Mercury with Pisces moon. I'm artistic, I play the drums and can sing well although not in a conventional way. I've also been practicing astrology since I was 12.

posted July 16, 2016 06:41 AM            

Cap has Venus, Uranus and Neptune. Aqua has Mercury. Aries has Moon and Mars.

Aspects; Neptune semi-sextile's Mercury, conjuncts Venus, conjuncts Uranus and square's Moon. Mercury sextile's Moon
Venus conjuncts Uranus, square's Moon and trine's Mars. Uranus square's Moon and trine's Mars.
Creative Arts wise: Had learnt piano/keyboard and guitar (acoustic/bass) as a child. Only sing when people aren't around. Have thought of doing songs but leave that to my brother. Do drawing, painting, sculpting, crafting randomly.
Have too many writing ideas from NF Christmas, Halloween and Spiritual. F has family, unconditional love, loyalty, believing in one-self, being tested, dying to let others live, adventuring, fantasy, sci-fi, life changes, mental manipulation and psychological genres. Also ideas for software and gaming stories.

posted July 16, 2016 07:14 AM              

Jupiter in Pisces, intercepted in my 3rd house, in square and mutual reception with Neptune on my NN and ASC in 1st house.

posted July 16, 2016 07:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I agree with the mentioned factors, and would add the 5th harmonic chart to this. NOt just the quintiles (which will show up as conjunctions) but the whole shape.

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posted July 16, 2016 08:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Would you say that you may have been given certain talents that you don't have the passion to put as a career of sorts (mainly referring to the singing if what I'm picking up is correct)?

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posted July 16, 2016 09:29 AM              

that is certainly wild!

Provided of course you used harmonic orbs.

posted July 16, 2016 10:24 AM              

harmonic orbs sound a little crazy, but they make sense, trust me.
By keeping the same orb irrespective of harmonic chart, we make certain we really have the same orb for the aspects.

While the orbs for trine and square might feel really small, we also need to remember, that in a 5th harmonic chart for examply, these aspects are not REAL trines or squares, but a 15th harmonic aspect for example or a 20th harmonic aspect.

Having said that I think you are on the safe side with a 2-3 degree orb.

The usual orbs for harmonic charts are:

conjunction: 12°
(in a 5th harmonic chart, that would include quintiles and biquintiles in the radix with an orb of roughly 2,5 degrees).

opposition: 6°
(those would be actually deciles in the natal chart)

trine 4°

square 3°

sextile 2°

quinkunx 1°

Even if there are no aspect figures, stellia, or conjunctions and oppositions might indicate a highly creative mind.

EDIT
Cochrane uses a bit of a larger orb

conjunction 16° (quintile with about 3 degrees, which I personally wouldn´t count)

Also the 12° figure for conjunction makes it easier to arrive at the other orbs, less decimals. I tend to enlargen the orb for square a little though, to 4 degrees, even though it is not consistent in the frame of harmonic astrologer (If I enlargen that one, I would have to enlargen all others proportionally too)
And also tend to have an eye on the quinkunx evne if it exceeds 1 degree. I mean, if it is 1°15 or something like that I would still count it. I wouldn´t though if it were 2 or 3 degrees.

posted July 16, 2016 10:40 AM              

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His creativity can easily be seen in the opposition of Jupiter-Uranus to Sun-Mars-(Mercury) overlaying the nodal and ASC-DESC-axis (though the birthtime needs to be really exact for this).
As his playfulness, crazyness and silliness and thirst for fun and enjoyment and independence no matter the cost as well.

The more intense emotionally charged creativity shows in the Moon-Venus-Pluto (funny that Ceres is there as well).
which is REALLY tight.
It means that he must have had an aspect etween Moon and Pluto (conjunction, opposition, quintile or biquintile) with an orb of not even 2 minutes in his basic radix! (in his case Moon-Pluto was a conjunction with 1 minute of orb, Moon-Venus and Venus-Pluto were quintiles with not even half a degree in his radix)
It also trines the nodal axis.

So it seems that it sort of was his mission in life to express his creativity like he did, bringing Jupiter, Uranus, Sun, Mars, Mercury and then also Moon, Venus, Pluto together.

posted July 16, 2016 10:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Thank you.
I am a compulsive reader when something gets my interest. And I LOVE 5th harmonic charts.

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