posted July 16, 2016 05:40 PM            

For this article, we are exploring Chiron aspects. The conjunction is, always, the most powerful aspect. This is the case because of the PROXIMITY of the planets. The planets are on top of one another, as in an exact conjunction or next to one another, as in a close conjunction, which is from one degree to five degrees.

Hence, Chiron in a close conjunction would show us an intense amount of pain. The specific nature of the pain could be seen by the PLANET which conjuncts Chiron. I will cite some examples. If Chiron conjuncts the Moon, there may be pain with the mother and/or women in general. If Chiron conjuncts the Sun, there may be pain with the father and/or men, in general. If Chiron conjuncts Venus, there may be pain in love. If Chiron conjuncts Jupiter, pain may be multiplied *sigh*

With Chiron in square, we have a locked in situation. If Chiron squares the Moon, there may be pain with the mother and, often, women, in general. If Chiron squares the Sun, the latter may be true of men. If Chiron squares Venus, there may be pain with love and it may seem as if it is impossible to mend. The square is the second hardest Chiron aspect. Chiron squares may engender a hopeless feeling.

With Chiron in opposition, the native seeks to find balance for his pain. He may try too hard to heal his pain. Then, he may give up and not try at all. The opposition is like a see-saw. One side is down and the other side is up. The opposition does not allow for a middle point due to the polarity, which defines it.

Let’s use the example of Chiron oppose the Moon. This is pain with the mother and women, in general, usually. The native may try very hard to heal these relationships and then give up. After she gives up, she may feel guilty and try hard, again.

With Venus oppose Chiron, the native may try hard to love without feeling pain. Then, when pain strikes, she may hide herself away. Then, the cycle may repeat. There may be a sense of hopelessness with the Chiron opposition.

With Chiron in trine, which I have, the pain is still there but one seems COMPELLED to help others. It is a pain that is more usable, it seems to me. I have a Grand Trine of the Ascendant, Venus and Chiron. My life is about helping people using the pain I endured. Honestly, I wish I never had the pain. However, in more spiritual moments, I know I had the pain for a purpose and I must use it for a purpose. I feel a great sense of meaning when I do.

With Chiron trine Venus, one uses warmth and love to help others heal. With Chiron trine Mars, one has a passion to help others using one’s own experience. With Chiron trine the MC, one may have a career in the helping fields.

Chiron trine the Sun would enable the person to use his ego strength to help others.

With Chiron trine Mercury, one could use his intellect and powers of communication to help others.

The sextiles functions in the same manner as does the trine but the trine is an unearned gift. The sextile demands some manner of struggle before it can be accessed.

I was asked the question of how to overcome Chiron squares and oppositions. I do not think they can be overcome, per se. Let’s say there is a beautiful piece of antique art. It may not be in pristine condition. Perhaps, it’s flaws give it character and even more value. However, at the juncture of the flaw may lie a weakness in the structure.

I see Chiron hard aspects in this manner.

I have tried very hard to run from my Chiron. I, recently, stopped, when a friend told me about a sermon on flaws. Your flaws ARE the point at which you interface with God. Your flaws are a big part of how God uses you. Your flaws allow for being humble.

To add to this, every chart has several gifts. When I do charts, I spend a lot of time on the gifts, such that I hope the person feels like a superstar, as well as a flawed human

I hope this article has helped to make Chiron aspects a little clearer and a little more accessible!

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posted July 17, 2016 01:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Koniucha:
What if you just have hard aspects to Chiron? How can you heal?

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I forgot oppositions. Yikes.

I will answer your question, too, when I add to the article, K.

I am such a spacey earth void

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posted July 17, 2016 01:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I forgot oppositions. Yikes.

I will answer your question, too, when I add to the article, K.

I am such a spacey earth void

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posted July 17, 2016 02:35 PM            

In which house is your Chiron or just stick up your chart, if you want.

I have a very needed break from professional charts, so I can spend more time with my friends on here.

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posted July 17, 2016 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
NN sq Chiron may make pain struggle with your PURPOSE in life.

In which house is your Chiron or just stick up your chart, if you want.

I have a very needed break from professional charts, so I can spend more time with my friends on here.

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I have Chiron in Taurus, 5th house. NN in Leo, 8th house. The square is exact.

posted July 17, 2016 03:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I added oppositions, my Friend. and tried to answer your question.

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posted July 17, 2016 03:27 PM            

I would say that letting looose/being creative/having childlike fun is hard. This may make you feel like it is super hard to get to your deepest feelings and emotions.
It prolly feels like a shut down feeling as if you WISH you could let loose and just BE

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posted July 17, 2016 09:34 PM            

The challenges are there to help us grow and move forward. They are not supposed to hinder or crush us.
Whatever challenges we are given in life, we are given precisely because we have all the capacity to overcome them.

In response to your antique art analogy: The Japanese practice art of repairing broken pottery with gold. The idea behind it is the piece becomes more beautiful and valuable, and in fact even stronger than the original. There is a great wisdom in this.

"CHIRON is the wounded healer; he triggers us into feeling our deepest inner wound so that we can CLEAR inner pain. The path to self-mastery includes recognizing, deliberately bringing forth into conscious awareness, forgiving, and releasing all inner pain. Chiron is our helper/healer."

@ Koniucha

The house of your Taurus Chiron is showing you the nature of the values you hold dear, you may be focusing on material plane. The pain here is what is right or wrong , and whats permanent or not. Ego issues may be present as there is a childlike attitude to what you're doing, though you may have to experience repercussions to learn. Be alert to the need to release a value system that has outlived its meaningfulness, when its time. Creativity is essential and you have a great potential to express it. Be careful with sexual experimentation, this placement can result in early kundalini activation.

The square to NN is to PROPEL you to use your potential for creative expression in your 8th House NN purpose. Creative expression is not limited to art, it can be used in many ways.

You have the Nodes of the Inventor.
The talents to fulfill the purpose of your 8th House NN are in your 2nd house SN and the placement of Uranus. Placement of Sun will give you clue on how you use them. Also aspects to these planets are material.
Your NN holds a chance to go from rags to riches, for the gift of creation you can bring to the world is of substantial size and worth. Discover the talents locked in your SN. You are here to show others the ways in which the world can overcome its problems.

posted July 17, 2016 11:11 PM            

I definitely have experienced a lot of pain from men, and my dad. I love my dad but its never been easy to love him. I feel like Chiron square Sun has also contributed to my long depression and scars my will to live (identity) sometimes.

I also have Chiron trine my Mercury and Venus and I feel like I always use my pain to help others. I talk down my friends when they are in a bad spot, and I swear sometimes I can feel myself giving my significant other healing energy when I know he's upset.

Great article Ami!

posted July 18, 2016 07:15 AM            

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posted July 18, 2016 07:16 AM            

You are like I am. You want to FACE yourself, square on, take the good with the bad, and go forward the best you can.
Soul Sista

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posted July 18, 2016 07:17 AM            

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Originally posted by frankie2912:
My Chiron (8th) is square my Jupiter (4th) at 0 degrees .

I'm not sure how to interpret this. I'm not even sure what my pain is.

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I would say that pain in really getting to your deep emotions and that pain may be rooted in the early childhood, F.

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posted July 18, 2016 07:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Lucia23:
I have a tight Chiron-Uranus opposition (0 degrees), forming a loose T-square with my Venus (4 degrees).

I can feel the Chiron-Venus square very acutely when my Chiron is touched by transits or in synastry. Not so sure how the Uranus opposition is playing out.

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Uranus is the hardest planet in hard aspect, in my opinion.

The Houses would really matter, what are they, L?

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posted July 18, 2016 07:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Novabronte:
I'm afraid I have to disagree with the notion that you cannot heal pain from squares or oppositions. There is nothing in the chart that cannot be overcome.

The challenges are there to help us grow and move forward. They are not supposed to hinder or crush us.
Whatever challenges we are given in life, we are given precisely because we have all the capacity to overcome them.

In response to your antique art analogy: The Japanese practice art of repairing broken pottery with gold. The idea behind it is the piece becomes more beautiful and valuable, and in fact even stronger than the original. There is a great wisdom in this.

"CHIRON is the wounded healer; he triggers us into feeling our deepest inner wound so that we can CLEAR inner pain. The path to self-mastery includes recognizing, deliberately bringing forth into conscious awareness, forgiving, and releasing all inner pain. Chiron is our helper/healer."

@ Koniucha

The house of your Taurus Chiron is showing you the nature of the values you hold dear, you may be focusing on material plane. The pain here is what is right or wrong , and whats permanent or not. Ego issues may be present as there is a childlike attitude to what you're doing, though you may have to experience repercussions to learn. Be alert to the need to release a value system that has outlived its meaningfulness, when its time. Creativity is essential and you have a great potential to express it. Be careful with sexual experimentation, this placement can result in early kundalini activation.

The square to NN is to PROPEL you to use your potential for creative expression in your 8th House NN purpose. Creative expression is not limited to art, it can be used in many ways.

You have the Nodes of the Inventor.
The talents to fulfill the purpose of your 8th House NN are in your 2nd house SN and the placement of Uranus. Placement of Sun will give you clue on how you use them. Also aspects to these planets are material.
Your NN holds a chance to go from rags to riches, for the gift of creation you can bring to the world is of substantial size and worth. Discover the talents locked in your SN. You are here to show others the ways in which the world can overcome its problems.

Sorry to barge in, Love you all

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posted July 18, 2016 08:12 AM            

I believe Chiron is where we can achieve GREAT HEALING.

posted July 18, 2016 08:20 AM            

I absolutely believe that, too, and have seen it happen,t he healing/mentoring part.
But of course it takes quite a lot courage to either personally look and accept the spots where we are feeling very vulnerable and maybe hurt or like something is not "right" with us in this regard, and it does take even more courage to let someone else see it.
That is why Chiron-aspects also need a lot of TRUST, and if we feel that trust is being broken, there is no way back from it, as it just cuts too deep.
The only way to recover from that is cutting the reason for the breach of our boundaries/ trust out of our life.

BUT That is if it all goes to hell. In some cases the healing can be amazing, helping a caterpillar detach from its cocoon to become a beautiful butterfly.

posted July 18, 2016 08:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Voix,

I absolutely believe that, too, and have seen it happen,t he healing/mentoring part.
But of course it takes quite a lot courage to either personally look and accept the spots where we are feeling very vulnerable and maybe hurt or like something is not "right" with us in this regard, and it does take even more courage to let someone else see it.
That is why Chiron-aspects also need a lot of TRUST, and if we feel that trust is being broken, there is no way back from it, as it just cuts too deep.
The only way to recover from that is cutting the reason for the breach of our boundaries/ trust out of our life.

BUT That is if it all goes to hell. In some cases the healing can be amazing, helping a caterpillar detach from its cocoon to become a beautiful butterfly.

I still do prefer the harmonious aspects to Chiron though, and if a conjunction, please accompanied by harmonious aspects. If the Chiron is only receiving squares and oppositions, it just might be too much to take on.

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posted July 18, 2016 08:33 AM            

I have a mixed Chiron, though the aspcts are not unbearably close, but it is square my Saturn and sextile my Moon.
What IS close however is his conjunction to PHOINIX, and the square to Vertex, Eros and Sun/Moon-mp.
And no it is NOT easy, but personally I find it very worthwhile and valuable. I wouldn`t want to change it.

posted July 18, 2016 11:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lucia23:
[b]I have a tight Chiron-Uranus opposition (0 degrees), forming a loose T-square with my Venus (4 degrees).

I can feel the Chiron-Venus square very acutely when my Chiron is touched by transits or in synastry. Not so sure how the Uranus opposition is playing out.

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Uranus is the hardest planet in hard aspect, in my opinion.

The Houses would really matter, what are they, L?

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posted July 18, 2016 11:42 AM            

From great pain comes humility and depth, if someone FACES it.

If not, it is hopeless.

You are facing it and you will prevail!

I am on your side, My Friend!

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