posted July 17, 2016 06:23 AM            

It is the North Node that has me thinking this.

My natal North Node is in the 9th in Cancer.
So this is deemed my "lifepath" and/or "destiny".

---- However, my progressed North Node is in the 8th in Cancer

In order to actualise my natal North Node in the 9th, must I visit the 8th at this time, OR does the lifepath change throughout the life?

---If so, how can we talk in terms of "destiny" at all really??

--- Are progressions potentially more important than the natal as time goes on?

--- Is natal just the beginning, and progressions are the the real life experiences?

If natal North Node is the lifepath and progressions are the real life experiences, and the progressions are for the purpose of actualising the natal North Node, then shouldn't at my time of death, provided I have followed my "destiny", shouldn't I die with my North Node back in its natal position??

posted July 17, 2016 08:09 AM            

Your NN path does not change.

posted July 17, 2016 08:12 AM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Your progressed chart will show you when an event is triggered.
The natal is the most important chart. All charts are read around the Natal.
A progressed chart will not show you something that is not FIRST in your natal.

Your NN path does not change.

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First and foremost itīs a timing-tool to bring the basic natal aspects into manifestation or indicating WHEN they will manifest.

posted July 17, 2016 08:16 AM            

So progressed chart shows events, but how does it do this?

---- conjunctions to the natal planets/points?

posted July 17, 2016 08:28 AM            

I look out for especially the 4th harmonic aspects, conjunction, opposition, square, within tight orb, usually just a few minutes for events, to the natal planet and the progressed planets, too.
I did notice that the prMoon-prVertex conjunction was bringing interesting results.

In fact I give priority to those aspects that would involve the luminaries, angles or Vertex. Especially overlays with the n or pr angles seem to indicate that planets or aspects are "ripe" for manifesting.
Aspects to Sun come next in importance, and are almost as evident as the angles.

posted July 17, 2016 08:30 AM            

If you want to truly pursue on the truth on this matter and not pursue a lie (like 70% on this forum with their beliefs {asteroids, progressions, planetary rulerships}

then I'd recommend primary directions.

Primary directions fits western astrology much more because western astrology unlike SIDEREAL observes that the zodiac is created by the ecliptic-celestial rings in motion and NOT from star picture connections.

posted July 17, 2016 08:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I`d say so yes.

I look out for especially the 4th harmonic aspects, conjunction, opposition, square, within tight orb, usually just a few minutes for events, to the natal planet and the progressed planets, too.
I did notice that the prMoon-prVertex conjunction was bringing interesting results.

In fact I give priority to those aspects that would involve the luminaries, angles or Vertex. Especially overlays with the n or pr angles seem to indicate that planets or aspects are "ripe" for manifesting.
Aspects to Sun come next in importance, and are almost as evident as the angles.

Pr Moon is a great timing tool as well, as she moves so quickly.

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posted July 17, 2016 08:36 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
the progressed chart is like a layer of an onion, but the most prominant by far is the core = the natal (90%)

If you want to truly pursue on the truth on this matter and not pursue a lie (like 70% on this forum with their beliefs {asteroids, progressions, planetary rulerships}

then I'd recommend primary directions.

Primary directions fits western astrology much more because western astrology unlike SIDEREAL observes that the zodiac is created by the ecliptic-celestial rings in motion and NOT from star picture connections.

Secondary progressions are much like the siderial concept of something magical represented in the heavens will reflect down on earth.

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posted July 17, 2016 08:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Interesting Soren.
Can you tell me where would I find accurate information on Primary Directions?

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posted July 17, 2016 08:42 AM            

If you were born on another planet and it's day was 100 days long (until it fully rotates) but its year was 200 days long, would that make your birth chart unfold at a much slower rate? For each planet you are born on your birth chart is dependent entirely on when your second day on that planet will align with it's second year (even though each planet has a different length of time per year and day)
Or would it make more sense that your brain absorbs the energy's right away at birth within your first few hours

If you want to consider the latter- that the unfolding of your brains lockings to the planets is not reliant on how long a year is, then give primary directions a thought.

posted July 17, 2016 09:12 AM            

Your brain and its electrons locking at birth are incredibly PHYSICAL. It doesn't matter after you are born WHEN the sun is going to loop and have a magical happening. Your brain is going to lock to the planets at a set rate, and UNFOLD at a set rate, no matter how long a year is. That's what I believe.

posted July 17, 2016 09:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
OK, cool, thank you for these reference points. Am I right in saying that the only way to overlay progressed and natal like a synastry is in solarfire?

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posted July 17, 2016 10:51 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
If you just input your birth time to www.astrotheme.com (very convenient) (need accurate birth time) and move it ahead (your ascendent) by about 1.3-1.6 (+ or -) degrees multiplied by your age

If you were born on another planet and it's day was 100 days long (until it fully rotates) but its year was 200 days long, would that make your birth chart unfold at a much slower rate? For each planet you are born on your birth chart is dependent entirely on when your second day on that planet will align with it's second year (even though each planet has a different length of time per year and day)
Or would it make more sense that your brain absorbs the energy's right away at birth within your first few hours

If you want to consider the latter- that the unfolding of your brains lockings to the planets is not reliant on how long a year is, then give primary directions a thought.

The thing is- secondary progressions is accurate on how slow your ascendent progresses in degrees per year (1.5 mean)
But not correct on everything else. That's why we can measure using Primary directions. You know how your ascendent moves about 5 degrees by the time your 5? Well according to Primary directions this was litterally because your ascendent moved 5 degrees through the sign your ascendent falls in. Secondary progressions, your ascendent would have moved 60 times on your 5th day (it changes 12 times a day). But for some reason they account it for 1.5 degree per year (???)

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posted July 17, 2016 10:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No, not at all. Astro.com has the option too. Natal and progressed chart.

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I wonder how I have missed this, that will make everything so much easier.

posted July 17, 2016 11:05 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
^^^ your NN will barely move 50 days after birth. but using the progressed ascendent (at least moving 50 degrees over) it would move into the next houses.

For secondary progression, you move your ascendent forward by 1.5 degrees x how old you are
tack that ascendent position onto your 52 day of birth.

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posted July 17, 2016 11:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
But I don't want to be a Sag rising... lol!

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posted July 17, 2016 11:14 AM            

So what about my other question?

EDIT
Oh and my pr ASC moves with the exact rate of the pr Sun.