posted July 19, 2016 02:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Lucia23:
For sure. It changes most of your relationships.

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posted July 19, 2016 03:00 PM            

Like with this one person he's always telling me how I should educate myself more etc. In some ways I feel like he helps me in regards to bettering myself. My Saturn does also make aspects to some of his personal planets. I believe my Saturn conjuncts his moon and his Venus squares my Saturn. His Sun also squares my Saturn but the orb is really wide.

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Originally posted by Lucia23:
If the relationship is outdated in your life and doesn't best serve your true, grown up self, tSaturn will put intense and miserable pressure on it and it will be forced to end. If a relationship strengthens your ability to become your best self and follow your true lifepath, it may become more committed.

This does especially affect relationships where you have Saturn contacts in the synastry (your Saturn on their planets or angles.)

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posted July 19, 2016 04:21 PM            

Because Saturn is very closely parallel the Moon in your birth chart, the answer is most definitely. It isn't necessary for your planets/Saturn to be in direct synastry aspect with anothers' for your relationship with them to be affected.

Saturn's return position in declination for you is +/- 21S31 and your Moon is +/- 21S28, Saturn simultaneously transits parallel your Moon. This is one of those transits that none of us enjoys, because it can be a time of forced delay of emotional gratification in order to put your inner life in order.

Be sure you don't get too critical of yourself. Self-examination and introspection is good, but if you find yourself depressed and really down on yourself, understand low self worth is being exposed. This is an indication you need to build that self-worth. Otherwise any efforts fueled by your ambitions will come out of inner inadequacy instead of strength.

If you find yourself getting this type of criticism or judgment from a parent (especially mother) it may be time to enact a separation or distancing, at least for a while, until you can set a new standard of respect others understand you require.

Withdrawal and self-doubt happen very often during this type of transit, so make sure pulling back is for good purposes, and that it does not lead to a downward cycle of depression.

Use it to take an inventory of yourself, your strengths, weaknesses, and where you are compared to where you'd like to be.

posted July 19, 2016 05:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
ChildofVenus,

Because Saturn is very closely parallel the Moon in your birth chart, the answer is most definitely. It isn't necessary for your planets/Saturn to be in direct synastry aspect with anothers' for your relationship with them to be affected.

Saturn's return position in declination for you is +/- 21S31 and your Moon is +/- 21S28, Saturn simultaneously transits parallel your Moon. This is one of those transits that none of us enjoys, because it can be a time of forced delay of emotional gratification in order to put your inner life in order.

Be sure you don't get too critical of yourself. Self-examination and introspection is good, but if you find yourself depressed and really down on yourself, understand low self worth is being exposed. This is an indication you need to build that self-worth. Otherwise any efforts fueled by your ambitions will come out of inner inadequacy instead of strength.

If you find yourself getting this type of criticism or judgment from a parent (especially mother) it may be time to enact a separation or distancing, at least for a while, until you can set a new standard of respect others understand you require.

Withdrawal and self-doubt happen very often during this type of transit, so make sure pulling back is for good purposes, and that it does not lead to a downward cycle of depression.

Use it to take an inventory of yourself, your strengths, weaknesses, and where you are compared to where you'd like to be.

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posted July 19, 2016 08:40 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Can you explain how I will be affected with Saturn Paralleling my Moon?

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I just did. Read it. If necessary read it again.

posted July 20, 2016 01:03 AM            

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Originally posted by PiscesCancerTaurus:
What if a new person comes into your life during your Saturn return and everything is fine for a while but then you start to have tremendous issues? Is that the same thing you were talking about with relationship issues? And vice versa, if you meet new people during your return and you end up getting along with them quite well and decide those are the people you like, even if they seem like a bad influence.

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posted July 20, 2016 08:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I just did. Read it. If necessary read it again.

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posted July 22, 2016 05:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Lucia23:
If the relationship is outdated in your life and doesn't best serve your true, grown up self, tSaturn will put intense and miserable pressure on it and it will be forced to end. If a relationship strengthens your ability to become your best self and follow your true lifepath, it may become more committed.

This does especially affect relationships where you have Saturn contacts in the synastry (your Saturn on their planets or angles.)

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posted July 22, 2016 09:37 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
So basically I may feel self critical will Saturn parallel my Moon during my entire Saturn Return?

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Yes, but put it to good use by looking at how you can be more aware of your true needs vs wants/gratifications, and look for sources of negativity in your thoughts. Ask yourself, "Whose words are these?" ... "Did someone say these negative things about me?"

Please, don't get too critical of yourself, or too isolated. Just beware you may not feel as much like socializing, and that's okay. Give yourself a break from it at times and push yourself out of your introversion. Then go back and gather strength within yourself.

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
And because I have Saturn in the 4th house I've always have a restrictive household. My parents have always been very protective of me. I still feel like I'm restricted being as though they give me a hard time about certain things that I want to do.

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That does not surprise me. Saturn-Moon often can mean smothering by a parent early in life, but I don't like to emphasize that right off, because I don't want to put anyone in the 'blame' mindset. Just recognize the pattern and ask yourself, "What greater freedom would I like to give to myself now as a gift?" ... or "If it were my best friend, what would I like for them to enjoy?" -- and then do it yourself!

Its a way of compensating for an over-protective upbringing. Believe me, I sympathize. I had it too.

Saturn-Moon contacts can sometimes time an end to a relationship IF you are not processing internally and doing that soul searching or introspection, and projecting your frustrations onto a partner. But more importantly, stay positive and don't fall into depression!

Seek out a friendly, outgoing person of joy and ask them to help lift you up when you're going through more negative thinking or self-doubt. Just reach out and communicate honestly your need to have positive support at times as you go through this.

You'll come out just fine.

posted July 22, 2016 11:29 PM            

I'll try my best not to get too depressed I don't really go out but I do like being alone.

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
That does not surprise me. Saturn-Moon often can mean smothering by a parent early in life, but I don't like to emphasize that right off, because I don't want to put anyone in the 'blame' mindset. Just recognize the pattern and ask yourself, "What greater freedom would I like to give to myself now as a gift?" ... or "If it were my best friend, what would I like for them to enjoy?" -- and then do it yourself!

Its a way of compensating for an over-protective upbringing. Believe me, I sympathize. I had it too.

Saturn-Moon contacts can sometimes time an end to a relationship IF you are not processing internally and doing that soul searching or introspection, and projecting your frustrations onto a partner. But more importantly, stay positive and don't fall into depression!

Seek out a friendly, outgoing person of joy and ask them to help lift you up when you're going through more negative thinking or self-doubt. Just reach out and communicate honestly your need to have positive support at times as you go through this.

You'll come out just fine.

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posted July 23, 2016 10:55 AM            

If your chart is lined up pretty well, then you will also want to pay attention to your health during this Saturn return. Moon in 6th. Take a practical approach of looking for what constructive habits you can take on that will support the life you want to live.

As it relates to others and family, a keyword here is also boundaries. Saturn transits can help us find limits and with regards to family it generally does not mean cutting them out, but developing better boundaries, not communicating certain things to parents <!>. You have a right to your plans without naysayers stepping on them. Look for how you can pull back and use different boundaries to create a different dynamic in your life.

posted July 23, 2016 11:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
ChildofVenus,

If your chart is lined up pretty well, then you will also want to pay attention to your health during this Saturn return. Moon in 6th. Take a practical approach of looking for what constructive habits you can take on that will support the life you want to live.

As it relates to others and family, a keyword here is also [b]boundaries. Saturn transits can help us find limits and with regards to family it generally does not mean cutting them out, but developing better boundaries, not communicating certain things to parents <!>. You have a right to your plans without naysayers stepping on them. Look for how you can pull back and use different boundaries to create a different dynamic in your life.

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posted July 24, 2016 10:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Lucia23:
For you, the challenge will be to break away from your family's control and become and adult--to see yourself as an independent adult. I mean, Saturn Return #1happens when you're 28-31, not 17-20!!!! And you're in the US. Your parents shouldn't even come up as part of the equation in your head when you're deciding about traveling or other life moves, other than figuring out the logistics if they need your help with medical care or something as they age. And going to visit them so that you can stay close.

You say you understand why they worry. I don't!! If you were fifteen or had a severe mental illness that precluded you doing anything independently, maybe. It is beyond inappropriate if they would "go off on you" for visiting a friend. Maybe during your Saturn return, instead of lying and hiding like a preteen, you'll tell them that your social and travel plans are your own private business and that you love them, but you're an adult now. A private, adult home of your own--perhaps not in the town where you grew up--and relationships/a family of your own may be part of the mix.

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posted July 24, 2016 11:04 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I have actually told them that I like traveling and they went off on me about how It's not safe. Saying that I was crazy for wanting to do so. That's why I don't tell them or either lie about where I am going. Because even when I do tell them they go off on me. When you say a private adult home of my own not in the town where I grew up in. Do you mean maybe in another city or state? I would actually like to live in California.

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Yes, California would be great!!

posted July 24, 2016 02:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Lucia23:
Yes, California would be great!!

If you move to California, your parents will have to get used to that being your home and life now. If they want a relationship with you, they'll have to visit you there and enjoy your visits to them. your choices about travel and relationships are not something you're answerable to them about.

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posted July 26, 2016 12:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
That does not surprise me. Saturn-Moon often can mean smothering by a parent early in life, but I don't like to emphasize that right off, because I don't want to put anyone in the 'blame' mindset. Just recognize the pattern and ask yourself, "What greater freedom would I like to give to myself now as a gift?" ... or "If it were my best friend, what would I like for them to enjoy?" -- and then do it yourself!

Its a way of compensating for an over-protective upbringing. Believe me, I sympathize. I had it too.

Saturn-Moon contacts can sometimes time an end to a relationship IF you are not processing internally and doing that soul searching or introspection, and projecting your frustrations onto a partner. But more importantly, stay positive and don't fall into depression!

Seek out a friendly, outgoing person of joy and ask them to help lift you up when you're going through more negative thinking or self-doubt. Just reach out and communicate honestly your need to have positive support at times as you go through this.

You'll come out just fine.

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