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Topic: Ascendant Problems
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Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 728 From: USA Today Registered: Aug 2015
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posted July 19, 2016 05:29 PM
So I've felt in my gut that my chart is wrong in some aspects for a very long time. In spite of Kannon's Ascendant Issues thread, I started to question my own ascendant. People always guess that I'm a Scorpio ascendant or a Virgo, which are the two signs before and after my charts stated ascendant which is Libra 25 degrees. I wanted to get everybody's input, do I look like a Libra ascendant or do I look more like a Virgo or Scorpio ascendant? I can answer any questions too ------------------ "Do not let the behavior of others destroy your inner peace." -Dalai Lama IP: Logged |
Electro DGX Knowflake Posts: 1002 From: Another Galaxy Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 19, 2016 05:34 PM
I would say you look more like a Virgo Ascendant than a Scorpio Ascendant. Maybe it's the red hair that made them think such? lolComparing to certain facial traits that other people I know with Virgo ascendants, you seem to match them better than Scorpio Ascendants. Scorpio Ascendants have a penetrating quality to them as if they're trying to control you through their stares. ------------------ Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First 8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine Uranus Have you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet? IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 728 From: USA Today Registered: Aug 2015
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posted July 19, 2016 05:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Electro DGX: I would say you look more like a Virgo Ascendant than a Scorpio Ascendant. Maybe it's the red hair that made them think such? lolComparing to certain facial traits that other people I know with Virgo ascendants, you seem to match them better than Scorpio Ascendants. Scorpio Ascendants have a penetrating quality to them as if they're trying to control you through their stares.
I was thinking that too, and I definitely relate more to being a Virgo ascendant than a Scorpio ascendant. It would also make more sense as to why Pisces suns and I don't mesh and that Virgos love me ------------------ "Do not let the behavior of others destroy your inner peace." -Dalai Lama IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91 Knowflake Posts: 261 From: Registered: Mar 2016
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posted July 19, 2016 05:51 PM
I would have thought Libra because your face look so friendly, hehe. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2597 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted July 19, 2016 06:45 PM
I'm learning a bit here and there and had Kannon rectify my chart also. Not that I'm anything close to being an expert. I would guess Scorpio. Your eyes, which I can't explain but they look Scorpio to me. Also, the square jaw which is said to be associated with fixed modality. Virgo has a tapering jaw. A face that is sloped, bigger on top and narrower at the jaw. Other factors play into it though. Planets in the first, on asc, aspecting the asc, etc. IP: Logged |
Liliya Knowflake Posts: 1457 From: Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 19, 2016 07:27 PM
You seem Libra to me. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 1652 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted July 19, 2016 08:43 PM
Do you have your chart posted in a personal readings thread? If so, link it here. Rising signs do not have absolute definitions in terms of personal appearance, but need the context of your planetary positions. Personality is also more important. ------------------ The Declinations Guy Rising Sign Descriptions | Expert rectification ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓ IP: Logged |
miss.strawberry Newflake Posts: 6 From: Registered: Mar 2016
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posted July 19, 2016 09:15 PM
I have a friend of mine with Virgo ASC and you remind me a bit of her, but I am not an expert at all IP: Logged |
mollywu Knowflake Posts: 451 From: Chengdu, China Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 19, 2016 11:29 PM
Kannon is right. Do you have Sun/Uranus/Pluto aspect your ASC? Those aspect will add you s squarish face even you are have changeable ASC. I am virgo ASC, but I have Sun/Venus conjunct ASC, Saturn in first house. I have long face, not much squarish even Sun conjunct ASC because Venus and Saturn alters the squarishness.IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 3123 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 20, 2016 03:05 AM
You kinda look like Kathryn Hahn. And actually, that is the first thing i thought about when seeing your pic.She has Sun in Leo and Moon on the Virgo/Libra cusp. And i find that interesting that u say that you are often mistaken for a Virgo IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 2984 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 20, 2016 05:16 AM
I personally see late libra rising with Scorpio in the 1st houseIP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo Knowflake Posts: 1137 From: Sittin' on Mercury Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 20, 2016 07:54 AM
ScorpioDopGang is right about the square jaw trait. I have Aqua ASC and I have one as well. It's not really something you see with Virgo or Libra ASC, although I do think you have Jupiter or Venus aspecting your ASC. Just my 2 cents. IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 728 From: USA Today Registered: Aug 2015
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posted July 20, 2016 03:51 PM
Here's my natal for everyone that's been asking ------------------ "Do not let the behavior of others destroy your inner peace." -Dalai Lama IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 728 From: USA Today Registered: Aug 2015
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posted July 20, 2016 03:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by headintheclouds91: I would have thought Libra because your face look so friendly, hehe.
Well thank you! I try to make a nice first impression ------------------ "Do not let the behavior of others destroy your inner peace." -Dalai Lama IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 728 From: USA Today Registered: Aug 2015
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posted July 20, 2016 03:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by DopGang: I'm learning a bit here and there and had Kannon rectify my chart also. Not that I'm anything close to being an expert. I would guess Scorpio. Your eyes, which I can't explain but they look Scorpio to me. Also, the square jaw which is said to be associated with fixed modality. Virgo has a tapering jaw. A face that is sloped, bigger on top and narrower at the jaw. Other factors play into it though. Planets in the first, on asc, aspecting the asc, etc.
With my original hair (black) before I died it everyone thought I had scorpio in me. My eyes always show my mood, no matter how much I try to hide it, it always shines through my eyes ------------------ "Do not let the behavior of others destroy your inner peace." -Dalai Lama IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 728 From: USA Today Registered: Aug 2015
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posted July 20, 2016 03:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by miss.strawberry: I have a friend of mine with Virgo ASC and you remind me a bit of her, but I am not an expert at all
I think I have the Virgo ascendant nose, but then people say Scorpio ascendants have the plutonian nose so idk ------------------ "Do not let the behavior of others destroy your inner peace." -Dalai Lama IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 728 From: USA Today Registered: Aug 2015
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posted July 20, 2016 03:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by mollywu: Kannon is right. Do you have Sun/Uranus/Pluto aspect your ASC? Those aspect will add you s squarish face even you are have changeable ASC. I am virgo ASC, but I have Sun/Venus conjunct ASC, Saturn in first house. I have long face, not much squarish even Sun conjunct ASC because Venus and Saturn alters the squarishness.
I have none of thouse in the first house or in aspect to my ascendant ------------------ "Do not let the behavior of others destroy your inner peace." -Dalai Lama IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 728 From: USA Today Registered: Aug 2015
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posted July 20, 2016 04:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by theunknown: I personally see late libra rising with Scorpio in the 1st house
That's interesting because that's exactly what's in my chart! Scorpio in the first, but Libra rising ------------------ "Do not let the behavior of others destroy your inner peace." -Dalai Lama IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 728 From: USA Today Registered: Aug 2015
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posted July 20, 2016 04:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: You kinda look like Kathryn Hahn. And actually, that is the first thing i thought about when seeing your pic.She has Sun in Leo and Moon on the Virgo/Libra cusp. And i find that interesting that u say that you are often mistaken for a Virgo
I love Kathryn Hahn! Thank you! I have my moon in Leo but no Virgo placements ------------------ "Do not let the behavior of others destroy your inner peace." -Dalai Lama IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 1652 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted July 20, 2016 04:45 PM
Thank you, Mergoatsun.So as to personality ... are you diplomatic, at least in how you view things? Are you moved strongly by beauty? What I believe what I see here is a Libran Ascendant parallel Pluto [7S57], which would put it at 17-23° Libra, about 7-8° South. Watch the transits of fire planets over that area. Jupiter will be going through it in December. However, Uranus has recently been through the area in Aries opposite it. Have you had changes, surprises, upsets in your relational life this past year, but with it easing up more lately? You are beautiful and you have a great smile. I assume that is your sister beside you in the 3rd picture? ------------------ The Declinations Guy Rising Sign Descriptions | Expert rectification ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓ IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 728 From: USA Today Registered: Aug 2015
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posted July 20, 2016 06:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Thank you, Mergoatsun.So as to personality ... are you diplomatic, at least in how you view things? Are you moved strongly by beauty? What I believe what I see here is a Libran Ascendant parallel Pluto [7S57], which would put it at 17-23° Libra, about 7-8° South. Watch the transits of fire planets over that area. Jupiter will be going through it in December. However, Uranus has recently been through the area in Aries opposite it. Have you had changes, surprises, upsets in your relational life this past year, but with it easing up more lately? You are beautiful and you have a great smile. I assume that is your sister beside you in the 3rd picture?
Thank you for your compliments!I would say I'm pretty diplomatic, I like to see both sides of anything. As to being strongly moved by beauty, I have Venus in my 4th house so I really like to keep an organized house, and nice clothes/jewelry. Music is very important to me and so is my appearance. My relational life has been relatively the same. However, we just found out our move planned for August that we've been looking forward to just got moved to mid-September, that was a huge surprise. I went through a period of conflict with my significant other, but it seems that we are over that period. I have had some upsets in my personal life though. That's my best friend in the 3rd picture, we feel like sisters though. We have been best friends for a long time, and our charts line up pretty interestingly. I believe we were sisters in a previous life (if past lives exist). ------------------ "Do not let the behavior of others destroy your inner peace." -Dalai Lama
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Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 728 From: USA Today Registered: Aug 2015
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posted July 20, 2016 07:00 PM
Thank you everyone for your input, I'm going to try to rectify my chart. I'm an early Leo Moon (1 degree), but I often feel more like a Cancer Moon, but I do feel like a Leo sometimes. If I am a 13-23 Libra ascendant than I would be a Cancer moon. I'm a Cancer Moon in vedic astrology so that might be a factor as well. I have lots of work to do, but I will update eventually------------------ "Do not let the behavior of others destroy your inner peace." -Dalai Lama IP: Logged |
theunknown Knowflake Posts: 2984 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 21, 2016 04:07 PM
cancer moon is very different from leo moon. Are you close to your mother? cancer moon is also very moody and prone to stomach ache. I think once you figure that out, it's probably clearer. I know 2 capricorn with scorp rising who look very similar to you (but they wear darker clothes) ... so the Libra rising and lightness of your presence matches up IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 1652 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted July 22, 2016 09:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Mergoatsun: Thank you everyone for your input, I'm going to try to rectify my chart. I'm an early Leo Moon (1 degree), but I often feel more like a Cancer Moon, but I do feel like a Leo sometimes. If I am a 13-23 Libra ascendant than I would be a Cancer moon. I'm a Cancer Moon in vedic astrology so that might be a factor as well. I have lots of work to do, but I will update eventually
If you are Libra rising, you can only have Moon in Leo. It is a 'cuspy' position, but the more likely explanation for the 'Cancer' feeling is presented right in your chart as-is: Moon very close to MC, and opposite Neptune. This adds sensitivity, emotion to a Libra personality, making it more water-like. I'm not looking to change your chart just for change's sake, but consider that this Moon-Neptune aspect on the IC/MC axis is what you are feeling. Let me explain what I mean a bit better ... I may've glossed over things a bit too quickly. You have a very luminescent, fair, porcelain complexion. This correlates to Pisces/Neptune affecting Asc. See Neptune square Asc? And you have what I term a high hairline/forehead, which correlates to Mercury/Jupiter/Neptune or Gem/Virgo, Sag, Pisces (mutability). My first assessment may've been wrong. Do some reading to see if you fit Lunar/Neptune over Pluto in your personality. Looking at your pictures here again, your face looks more rounded/lengthy than squarish/rectangular. (Pics are tricky). That leads me to think your chart may be pretty accurate as-is. But watch those transits through mid-late Libra and tell us what you find. ------------------ The Declinations Guy Rising Sign Descriptions | Expert rectification ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓ IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 67397 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 25, 2016 06:47 PM
Good explanation, K.IP: Logged |