posted August 03, 2016 11:27 AM            

Venus unaspected: Shows alternating outbursts of emotions and both material and sensual desires. Venus' charm and kindness are still strong, but owing to her uncontrolled characteristics, some degree of indolence or passivity sometimes prevents the person from achieving a very active or conquering life.
The person may seem too "quiet". In the long run, these sentimental fluctuations, or this vulnerability to material desires may also lead to some degree of introversion, and the person ends up distrusting himself as well as the desires, and feelings that recklessly take him too far too quickly.

Jupiter unaspected: When Jupiter is unaspected in a chart, the best and the worst can be expected. Let's begin with the best. Jupiter is also known as the planet of Greater Fortune, meaning that he is the luckiest planet. He is par excellence the planet of social adaptation, of legality, of optimism, of organisation, and of success. One can imagine that with unaspected Jupiter, at times, the person enjoys unfailing protection and stimulation, and that his career and destiny are favored... in fits and starts.
Since Jupiter is not connected to any other planet, when a hard transit or progression occurs, his influence may be reversed. What prevails then is a tendency towards solitude and groundless exuberance. The person may take decisions on the verge of illegality and finds it hard to accept any form of authority.
In any case, owing to the very nature of this planet, such sporadic or repeated inconvenience cannot cause really serious harm, especially given the fact that with Jupiter, we enter the domain of collective planets. Therefore, it is most unlikely that the person is personally affected.

What do you think? Do any of you have unaspected Venus's or Jupiter's? What do you think they mean?

posted August 03, 2016 12:05 PM            

Unaspected Jupiter may have amazing luck and good fortune but may need to struggle, in terms of learning how to kind of "go with this flow"

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posted August 03, 2016 04:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Unaspected venus is charm(and can be lazy---guilty lol)

Unaspected Jupiter may have amazing luck and good fortune but may need to struggle, in terms of learning how to kind of "go with this flow"

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posted August 04, 2016 05:43 PM            

Your Moon makes a wide contra-parallel with Venus, orb 1°24'. Venus is also semi-sextile Saturn.

Your Jupiter [23S12] is parallel Sun [22S27], and it receives a quincunx from the Moon.

Personality and character are not explained by what is not present in a chart, but by what is.

posted August 04, 2016 05:56 PM            

I have an Unaspected Venus.
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posted August 05, 2016 08:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Semi sextile and quincunx don't count toward Unaspected Planets.

I have an Unaspected Venus.

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Oh right

Quincunx is not an aspect.

Semisextile is not an aspect.

So if your sun is quincunx Pluto, it's "unaspected." Is everyone following this?

Astro.com will show you your quincunx and semisextile aspects (and semisquare...way over your head, Ami) in an aspect grid because real astrologers consider them aspects.

But nevermind all that if Ami doesn't agree.

posted August 05, 2016 08:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Mergoatsun,

Your Moon makes a wide contra-parallel with Venus, orb 1°24'. Venus is also semi-sextile Saturn.

Your Jupiter [23S12] is parallel Sun [22S27], and it receives a quincunx from the Moon.

Personality and character are not explained by what is not present in a chart, but by what is.

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I'm really just a beginner and learning astrology, I never really considered semi-sextile and quincunx aspects. Can you tell me what they mean? Also, how do you know what's contra-parallel and what's parallel?

posted August 05, 2016 08:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Semi sextile and quincunx don't count toward Unaspected Planets.

I have an Unaspected Venus.

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I never counted semi-sextiles and quincunx's as aspects either

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posted August 05, 2016 09:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Semi sextile and quincunx ARE aspects lol but are not counted when determining if a planet is Unaspected or not, M xx

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Says who?

posted August 05, 2016 09:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
I never counted semi-sextiles and quincunx's as aspects either

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Well you are just a beginner and eventually you'll see how important these are. Just to give one example: serious astrologers will mention these, along with other minor aspects, in their horoscopes. Sometimes, in a day, a minor aspect between two planets becomes exact, and is treated as the prevailing, most palpable energy of that day. Your experiences will or will not confirm the accuracy of those readings; in my experience, it's a reliable method of ascertaining what exactly is in the air. Sometimes it's just a septile affecting everyone most strongly. But it's up to you to build up your experiences and knowledge ~ no substitute for actual experience.

ETA: To illustrate my point, here is cafeastrology's horoscope for today:

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August 5, 2016
The Moon is in Virgo all day. Venus enters the sign today and will transit Virgo until the 29th. This is a time when we express our affection through practical means and gestures--running errands, doing detail work, or just "being there" for loved ones. Love needs to make sense and have a purpose with Venus in Virgo. Virgo is an Earth sign, which is sensual but also quite practical. How and who we love, what we decide to buy, and the types of entertainment we enjoy during this cycle are heavily influenced by practical considerations. We could easily feel guilty if we are too self-indulgent at this time. Rendering services to others can fill a need. On the shadow side, we may be overly critical of our partners or ourselves, picky, or worrisome. Venus forms a minor challenging aspect with Pluto today, and there can be some underlying tensions in social interactions (looking for an ulterior motive and suspiciousness) and relationships (possible jealousies). Feelings of jealousy and possessiveness can be brewing just under the surface of things, and they are in direct proportion to our fear of losing something or someone dear to us. Manipulation can color relationships. Financial tensions may emerge.

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Bold mine

Venus @ 0 Virgo
Pluto @ 15 Cap

The aspect she is referring to is the sesquisquare, 135°.

Notice the underlying tension in social interactions that it's causing? *Happening live*

posted August 05, 2016 10:21 AM            

I think what Ami is trying to say is that she uses the strongest relationships, major aspects, based on the duodecimal system, to define an unaspected planet, the same way some astrologers use only 1-4 degree orbs to define an aspect at all. It's just a matter of focusing on the most potent energies in a chart it does not mean the other relationships are not valid.

posted August 05, 2016 01:03 PM            

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Rules for detecting an unaspected planet

Astrologers do not agree on the aspects that ought to be taken into account when identifying an unaspected planet. There is a broad consensus that aspects formed by a planet to the angles of the chart are to be dismissed7, but whereas several authors consider only major aspects, some others include all the eleven usual aspects (major and minor).

Among all the testimonies that we have reviewed to this day, based on our experience, we tend to agree with American astrologer Janis Huntley who accepts seven aspects, which involve the zodiacal twelve sections of 30 degrees, and neglects the semi-quintile (36 degrees, very rarely used), the quintile (72 degrees, slightly favourable and allowing a very tight orb), and the bi-quintile (144 degrees, same meaning as the quintile), the semi-square (45 degrees, slightly unfavourable), and the sesqui-square (135 degrees, slightly unfavourable too).

The aspects to be considered are the conjunction (0 degree, cooperation or tension), the semi-sextile (30 degrees), the sextile and the trine (60 and 120 degrees respectively, aspects of cooperation), the square and the opposition (90 and 180 degrees respectively, tensed aspects), and the quincunx (150 degrees, slightly tensed).

Thus, a planet is said to be unaspected if it forms no conjunction, semi-sextile, sextile, square, trine, opposition, or quincunx with one of the nine other planets of the natal chart, within the orbs of those aspects.

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posted August 05, 2016 03:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
I'm really just a beginner and learning astrology, I never really considered semi-sextile and quincunx aspects. Can you tell me what they mean?

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They are distinct, dynamic geometric angles, which is what aspects are. If they weren't aspects they would not have been given names and included in every aspectarian you will find, whether at astro.com or anywhere else.

Different astrologers have different explanations or interpretations of them, but my observations (agreed with by at least one other astrologer independently) indicate these two work similarly despite their very different divisor status within the 360° circle. Semi-sextile (360/30=12) is not a 'half sextile' in my view in how it fuctions, but is more like a smaller/shorter quincunx.

The quincunx aspect is easily the standout 30-degree aspect since it is the only one that is not created by dividing the 360° circle by a whole number. 360/150 = 2.4 or 2-2/5. It indicates two planets in awkward state of 'adjustment' to each other, particular lessons related to the planetary energies involved in which health issues or undesirable conditions may arise in the environment which nudge the lessons into awareness. Normally, these lessons are peripheral, or out of conscious focus.

It is not the flow of the trine (120°) or the tension/separation of the opposition (180°), but something in between flow and tension. It is just preceded (in normal direct motion) by the 144° bi-quintile which relates to creative power, suggesting the adjustment phase to the results forthcoming with the 150° quincunx.

In transits and progressions, quincunxes are frequently found involved in the timing of accidents, health issues, and death.

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Also, how do you know what's contra-parallel and what's parallel?

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By looking at the declinations (found in astro.com's pdf document linked above your chart image there). Declinations show distance north or south of the celestial equator. Planets do not move just east/west. Go out over a month and watch the Moon's movement. You'll see it very southward at times, then later in the month more northward. All the planets do this more slowly than the Moon. In Summer, the Sun is north of the celestial equator, in winter south of it.

Parallels are conjunctions of declination. Contra-parallels are oppositions of declination. Anyone who tells you they are not aspects or are 'weak' does not know what they are talking about. They are major aspects on par with conjunctions and oppositions.

What Ami attributes to 'unaspected' Venus is actually due to her Venus being parallel both Jupiter and Uranus, the expander and electrifier respectively. Stress or emphasis on a planet does not come from a 'lack of' aspects, but from aspects, or its placement in relation to the Asc or MC.