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ilunatique
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posted August 03, 2016 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello.


Past life astrology is obviously closely tied to our chart - that is a complex map made up of past experiences of OUR SOUL. Those experiences affect us in this current life and shape who we are.


But how do you know exactly what is the nature of experience and when?

A sign shows a specific location of incarnation.
A planet in that sign is a landmark (an experience) - a past life in that place.

Thanks to the degrees/minutes/seconds you can calculate the period of time (age/year) when you incarnated there.

Based on what planet you have there and its aspects, you can find out if it was a rather troubled incarnation - see bad aspects or a life well spent (good aspects).


How can you calculate?

The system is not mine. Alden Taylor Mann came up with the relationship between the history of humanity and the zodiac signs.
So, we associate 0 degrees ARIES to 50000 BC (approximately the beginning of human consciousness) and the last degree of PISCES being 40 years before your birth. The time between two points follows a logarithmic scale. I personally have the chart of all the years from every sign from an astrology course.

(if anyone wants to see the chart, just tell me)

By degrees you keep getting closer and closer to the birth of Christ. Aries/taurus/gemini/cancer/leo are ALWAYS BC. Virgo is the age when Christ was born. Looking in my degree chart, after 18 degrees virgo you incarnated after Christ. Then with every degree, you keep getting closer and closer to the age we're now in. Hence Libra, Scorpio, Sagg, Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces are after christ.

Astrologically speaking, every planet from our chart represent an aspect of our nature that resulted from a certain moment in history. Every planet is a behavioral archetype.

Lets go

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ilunatique
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posted August 03, 2016 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
types of incarnations for every planet


Sun - important men, kings, leader,
Moon - important women, queens (female leaders in general) etc
Mercury - intellectuals, thinkers, scientists, authors, mystics, magicians, alchemists etc
Venus - artists, musicians, poets, actors, lovers , courtesans etc
Mars - heroes, conquerors, warriors, explorers, tyrants, athletes, soldiers, etc
Jupiter - prophets, founders and leaders of religion, philosophers, psychologists, doctors etc
Saturn - mathematicians, thinkers, inventors, scientists, bankers etc
Uranus - intuitives, inventive scientists, revolutionaries, eccentrics etc
Neptune - mystics, mediums, romantics, idealists, dreamers etc
Pluto - warriors, dictators, leaders, criminals, politicians etc


places of incarnation


ARIES : Prehistoric Africa, Germany, Japan, Palestine, Arabia, hebrew tribes, arab tribes

TAURUS : Babylon (+scorpio), old Egypt (+Leo and Scorpio), Persia (+Scorpio), Katai (old china), Turkey (+Sagittarius), countries south from the mediterranean sea

GEMINI: Middle age France, Great Britain, Germany, USA, Denmark, Belgium, countries north from the mediterranean sea

CANCER: Africa, Algeria, China (+Libra), Mexic-aztecs, maya etc. (+scorpio), hebrew communities (+scorpio), matriarchal civilizations like amazons, India (+Virgo), Mu or Lemuria (+Capricorn), Mongolia, old civilization of the Gobi desert, Pacific islands - Especially the easter island (+capricorn), Gaul, Mongolia, Israel, Canada, Philippines, USA

LEO: Regal france, Italy, Guyana, constructors of the pyramids, old mayans (+Scorpio), Romania before 1859, South America, USA

VIRGO: Brazil, Switzerland, Antique Rome, North africa, Greece, Sweden, Palestine in the axis with pisces we have incarnations in the era of pisces from Christ until our ages, existence in which the person defended the catholic church, or incarnations in which the person lived for a particular religion or he attended any crusade for a religious ideal

LIBRA: Republican france, Poland, Antique Greece, Belgium, Antique greece, South america, ITALY .. some italian - artistic cities like Venice or Florence, Austria, South USA before the secession war, Australia (+Capricorn)

SCORPIO: Egypt (+Pisces), Lapland (+Capricorn), Tibet, Arab countries (+Sag), oriental incarnations.

SAGITTARIUS: Saudi Arabia, Argentina, Spain (+Taurus), Malta, Morocco, arab countries, incarnations filled with travelling, adventures

CAPRICORN: England, India, incarnations in countries with a lot of mountains - Himalaya or the Andes

AQUARIUS: ATLANTIS (+Leo forming the axis of incarnations in this place), Scandinavia, Russia (+Scorpio), incarnations in the slavic breed (+scorpio), incarnations meanwhile revolutions - France or USA revolutions (+Leo in the axis), Romania, 1848 USA

PISCES: Portugal, Haiti, Senegal, incarnations at the beginning of the christian era in the middle ages, incarnations on islands. USA (+cancer)

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Valentine
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posted August 03, 2016 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sounds fascinating, I'd like to see it.

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MermaidDreamz
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posted August 03, 2016 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MermaidDreamz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too would like to see it.

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posted August 03, 2016 02:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, me too! Sounds awesome.

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ilunatique
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posted August 03, 2016 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If anyone is curious about their placements in detail or wants me to calculate the years, just ask me. If you are curious what a retrograde planet is, the houses role in all this or the north/south node, etc. Anything. I could write a lot here but i wanted to make it short.

I have a special program that will take in account the minutes and seconds of the planet and it will make the incarnation more accurate by a couple of years. The chart is only based on degrees alone.

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Valentine, MermaidDreamz, Elysia

There you go

Green is BC, Blue is AC


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ilunatique
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posted August 03, 2016 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forgot to add..

Lilith is our dark side. Feelings that maybe we dont want anyone to know about, inner drives that makes us wonder from where the heck did they come from.

She isnt the only one responsible of this , we have other clues in our chart (Mars, venus, moon, neptune - bad aspects between them and/or if they are bound to SCORPIO).
Every man needs to tame the inner "animals".

Bad aspects of Lilith somewhere in the chart means that the person is probably facing difficulties because of these not so elevated desires. He/she succumbed to its passions in past lives.

Good aspects means that he/she had to fight with these drives in other lives and won.

Unaspected Lilith is very elevated. She killed her demons a long time ago. Eventually she didnt experience it yet.

Again, if you are interested in what any planet means in a particular sign (including Lilith) and how it works, ask me! x

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GeminiKarat
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posted August 03, 2016 03:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do I use a tropicial/geo/placidus chart for this approach?

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ilunatique
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posted August 03, 2016 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
GeminiKarat

Natal, actually.

I dont know how the others work. Besides, the people that make a living out of writing past life natal charts just use the natal one.

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GeminiKarat
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posted August 03, 2016 03:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. My oldest incarnation is Taurus Moon @8. Is this a leading woman in Babylon?

As I have a Libra stellium: Could that mean that I seldom leave my country?

I have Pisces JupiterRx @9. Mmmh I do not know. A prophet in the Senegal?

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posted August 03, 2016 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
are we doing this only for the Sun signs? or all of the planets?

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ilunatique
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posted August 03, 2016 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Interesting. My oldest incarnation is Taurus Moon @8. Is this a leading woman in Babylon?

As I have a Libra stellium: Could that mean that I seldom leave my country?

I have Pisces JupiterRx @9. Mmmh I do not know. A prophet in the Senegal?



Yes, a leading woman, a matriarch.. but Moon being Moon.. you could have experienced its energy by building a stable Taurean family and you were extremely fond of it. You can find out the story better by looking at the aspects.

Libra stellium means that you had a very powerful and important life in that age. What happened back then, what you experienced, will be VERY present in this life.


Jupiter in pisces.. its very positive. You have actually been several times a healer/naturist/priest with a special gift. You have healing/sensing gifts that you could access.

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posted August 03, 2016 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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hey aqua look at my second post. all the planets from your chart are an archetype of you that was once present in the past.

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posted August 03, 2016 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ilunatique:
hey aqua look at my second post. all the planets from your chart are an archetype of you that was once present in the past.

So all 10 planets represents 10 possible past lives in different locations?

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posted August 03, 2016 04:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ilunatique:

Yes, a leading woman, a matriarch.. but Moon being Moon.. you could have experienced its energy by building a stable Taurean family and you were extremely fond of it. You can find out the story better by looking at the aspects.

Libra stellium means that you had a very powerful and important life in that age. What happened back then, what you experienced, will be VERY present in this life.


Jupiter in pisces.. its very positive. You have actually been several times a healer/naturist/priest with a special gift. You have healing/sensing gifts that you could access.


The moon is the focal point of my Boomerang. He makes a sextile to Jupiter. This is the common ground to the focal point of my other yod, which is nestled within the stellium.

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ilunatique
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posted August 03, 2016 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So all 10 planets represents 10 possible past lives in different locations?

yes. but those past lives are the ones that play a huge role in our current one - being our behaviour archetypes.

we all have way more than those past lives- including on other planets. they just aren't relevant to your current experience. no effect on it whatsoever

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posted August 03, 2016 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ilunatique:
hey aqua look at my second post. all the planets from your chart are an archetype of you that was once present in the past.

Hi Ilunatique,

thanks for sharing this info. just to make sure I follow. since each planet may be in different signs and degreees, does it mean that we can think of key incarnations (different from each other) for each planet? how do you go around different signs in the chart, as different incarnations? My guess is that we bring to our natal charts the incarnations that has been meaningful to be where we are. The aspects may mean how each incarnation unfold into the other. I was wondering if we can start by looking at the earliest planet in the chart (in my case mercury) and from them seen how different incarnations relate to that first one and so on so forth...

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posted August 03, 2016 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and this table you provided is for one planet, right? or we can apply this timeline to any planet?

if there is one table for each planet, can you post for the key planets you listed?

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posted August 03, 2016 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ilunatique:
yes. but those past lives are the ones that play a huge role in our current one - being our behaviour archetypes.

we all have way more than those past lives- including on other planets. they just aren't relevant to your current experience. no effect on it whatsoever


just noticed you answered one of my questions...

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posted August 03, 2016 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have both mercury and Neptune retrograde. you mentioned about calculating for them? i just realized my two retrogrades planets are in exact Quincunx. is the table provided applicable to retrograde planets? if not, below my two retro planets. what i also find fascinating is that both planets are the end and final of all my planets. like my earliest meaninful reincarnation is gemini and my last one is skorpio.. i am just impressed about the aspects between this extremes planets linked by and exact quincunx and retrogrades.. what the... I am thrilled!!!


my mercury at 24, 10', 40''gemini
my neptune at 24, 10', 42'' scorpio

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posted August 03, 2016 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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sorry i cant respond to everything in detail. its late right now and im going to sleep. i will be back tomorrow though

my guess is that we bring to our natal charts the incarnations that has been meaningful to be where we are. YES

The aspects may mean how each incarnation unfold into the other. They are separate. We aren't the same person each life. We need to attend all the classes, you know? Class of love, of strength, etc. The aspects shape up what kind of incarnation/experience you had. For example, I have SUN conjunct PLUTO. I was a leader of some masses and I used my power to control others. TRINE LEO MOON. It fueled MY EGO so much and I loved feeling in control and having "slaves". It is very relevant to my current life because i sadly did this in some past relationships and I had the tendency to boss people around regarding spiritual matters - but i am over that.
my mom has a bad aspect between Moon and pluto. Square. She has a very manipulative and destructive mother. That's karma hitting back at her because she can recall from a past life regression that she did the same thing in a past life. etc..

and this table you provided is for one planet, right? or we can apply this timeline to any planet? this table is for any planet. those are the years according to the degrees of signs.


my mercury at 24, 10', 40''gemini
my neptune at 24, 10', 42'' scorpio

MERCURY in gemini was in 7943 BC
NEPTUNE in scorpio was in 1440 AC

mercury retro means that you need to cultivate and use discipline in your thinking, organizing ideas, clarifying the methods of logic, giving up on confusing ideas..on contradicting mental attitudes. being sincere in communication. retro mercury... you didnt use the energies of the planet accordingly. trickster like.

neptune in scorpio is very esoteric. you had lives preoccupied with esoteric . you played important roles in occultism. you have the power to regenerate but need to put in practice your esoteric preoccupations, so yay because you are . you need to clarify your spiritual aims and do it for GOOD. mystic.

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My 'oldest' planet is Mars, it's in Aries.

So in 50,000 BC, I probably was a tribal warrior of some kind.

This thread is awesomeness!!! Keep it alive, baby!!!

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I got a past life regression once, and this chart is pretty correct, I would say.

I was probably a Chinese mother, around the 1300's to 1500's, in my past life regression, it was around that era, I was a Chinese mother.

I was showing more of my shadow side that era than my good side. Guess what? My Pluto is 13 degrees. I was a shadow figure in that lifetime. Probably my consciousness experiencing its more shadowy/darker aspects.

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And the chart verifies the lifetime I had in the late 1700's as a white male. I was in Europe, or England. And it was the late 1700's. This chart is freakishly in sync with my past life regressions. I could have lived in France, too. Or at least traveled to France.

And I wasn't rich, but well respected that lifetime. And guess what? I have Saturn at 1 degree, for that lifetime! Saturn is position, and respect. I was in a good position that lifetime. This is freakishly accurate.

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posted August 03, 2016 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marandana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm really interested in past lives and regressions, but I'm having a hard time calculating mine, hey ilunatique can you explain me a little? The chart you posted is about degrees in planets, isn't it?
Also, do the chart apply for the asc too? I'm sure the asc has so much to do with our past lives. Once I read the sign you have in the 12th house is the sign you had in the last past life, I don't know if that's correct, tho.

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