posted August 06, 2016 02:46 PM            

My career is nowhere, my love life is nowhere, money is nowhere and i can't seem to figure out what productive thing i have done since its ingress into Cap?

How have u guys been enjoying Pluto in Cap? Maybe gotten married? Reached financial stability? Had kids?

posted August 06, 2016 03:19 PM            

But then when it started to come nearer opposing my Saturn, everything got really horrible. I got rejected and abandoned in the most humiliating ways possible. My mother died. A friend of mine said, "You're still beautiful, brilliant, funny [Lucia23], you'll see"----and that's what I think got crushed and destroyed: the beautiful, brilliant, funny parts of me. Also my spirit, ability to love, and sense of happiness and hope. I've had very bad mental/emotional health problems, too--should I blame Pluto, though?? I have an 8h stellium and Pluto square my AC/DC natally, and I used to think I really liked Pluto energy. It's possible my life hitting the skids is more about tUranus opposing my Uranus and conjunct my Chiron.

I think Pluto transits might be the culprit with this horrible relationship that is infuriating and humiliating me (my ex lied to me and betrayed me, then HE left ME when our child was one)---it feels like he embodies the Capricorn Pluto in this last year or so, all about 1st house stuff and practicality, and I embody my 7h Cancer Moon-Saturn getting "opposed" and crushed and destroyed--my ability to be a good mother (Cancer moon), my sense of integrity and dignity (Cancer Saturn), my emotional health and loving heart and sense of self as a woman.

I am filled with bitterness and hate, and he wins every power struggle between us. He's a Cap Rising too, but his first and 7th houses are empty....so that tPluto opposite my Saturn was squaring his 4h Aries Sun. It's like it twisted and perverted the energy of my Cancer and his Aries planets? But maybe Pluto is not the culprit.

posted August 06, 2016 03:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Lucia23:
It was nice when it crossed over my Cap Ascendent and moved toward being opposite my moon--I did some transformational writing and travel and I had a baby.

But then when it started to come nearer opposing my Saturn, everything got really horrible. I got rejected and abandoned in the most humiliating ways possible. My mother died. A friend of mine said, "You're still beautiful, brilliant, funny [Lucia23], you'll see"----and that's what I think got crushed and destroyed: the beautiful, brilliant, funny parts of me. Also my spirit, ability to love, and sense of happiness and hope. I've had very bad mental/emotional health problems, too--should I blame Pluto, though?? I have an 8h stellium and Pluto square my AC/DC natally, and I used to think I really liked Pluto energy. It's possible my life hitting the skids is more about tUranus opposing my Uranus and conjunct my Chiron.

I think Pluto transits might be the culprit with this horrible relationship that is infuriating and humiliating me (my ex lied to me and betrayed me, then HE left ME when our child was one)---it feels like he embodies the Capricorn Pluto in this last year or so, all about 1st house stuff and practicality, and I embody my 7h Cancer Moon-Saturn getting "opposed" and crushed and destroyed--my ability to be a good mother (Cancer moon), my sense of integrity and dignity (Cancer Saturn), my emotional health and loving heart and sense of self as a woman.

I am filled with bitterness and hate, and he wins every power struggle between us. He's a Cap Rising too, but his first and 7th houses are empty....so that tPluto opposite my Saturn was squaring his 4h Aries Sun. It's like it twisted and perverted the energy of my Cancer and his Aries planets? But maybe Pluto is not the culprit.

My Venus is at 29 Cancer, so tPluto will oppose that too in a few years.

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Wow. So much has happened, is happening in your life.

Sorry to hear that there is so much drama though. That all sounds emotionally taxing for a Cancer Moon(coming from another Cancer Moon here)

Losing a parent is something i cant imagine.Inevitable as it is,its not something one can "prepare" for.

posted August 06, 2016 07:32 PM            

It's weird that almost all of us have to live through losing our parents to death--except for the ones who die before their parents, or have lost their parents before that some other way (abandonment, incarceration, madness)---I just feel lucky that I was a full-on adult before it happened, I have a lot of friends whose parents died when they were kids or teens, that seems extra cruel and unfair.

posted August 06, 2016 07:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Absolutely AWFUL for me. Pluto in Cap transit Saturn in Cap.

At least Pluto will start its second half of Pluto in Capricorn, on October 13, when it reaches 15 degrees. The halfway point. It won't reach there until 248 years later.

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posted August 06, 2016 08:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Lucia23:
Sorry to hear that, SulkyArcher. What happened for you?

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Horrible relationship with my parents. Career falling apart. It's in my 10th house.

posted August 06, 2016 10:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Lucia23:
It was nice when it crossed over my Cap Ascendent and moved toward being opposite my moon--I did some transformational writing and travel and I had a baby.

But then when it started to come nearer opposing my Saturn, everything got really horrible. I got rejected and abandoned in the most humiliating ways possible. My mother died. A friend of mine said, "You're still beautiful, brilliant, funny [Lucia23], you'll see"----and that's what I think got crushed and destroyed: the beautiful, brilliant, funny parts of me. Also my spirit, ability to love, and sense of happiness and hope. I've had very bad mental/emotional health problems, too--should I blame Pluto, though?? I have an 8h stellium and Pluto square my AC/DC natally, and I used to think I really liked Pluto energy. It's possible my life hitting the skids is more about tUranus opposing my Uranus and conjunct my Chiron.

I think Pluto transits might be the culprit with this horrible relationship that is infuriating and humiliating me (my ex lied to me and betrayed me, then HE left ME when our child was one)---it feels like he embodies the Capricorn Pluto in this last year or so, all about 1st house stuff and practicality, and I embody my 7h Cancer Moon-Saturn getting "opposed" and crushed and destroyed--my ability to be a good mother (Cancer moon), my sense of integrity and dignity (Cancer Saturn), my emotional health and loving heart and sense of self as a woman.

I am filled with bitterness and hate, and he wins every power struggle between us. He's a Cap Rising too, but his first and 7th houses are empty....so that tPluto opposite my Saturn was squaring his 4h Aries Sun. It's like it twisted and perverted the energy of my Cancer and his Aries planets? But maybe Pluto is not the culprit.

My Venus is at 29 Cancer, so tPluto will oppose that too in a few years.

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Very similar here, except for the baby. I haven't had one.

I've just lost my mother, as Pluto was back to squaring her Moon, Jupiter, Neptune, and Chiron. Pluto has been in my 3rd house for years, and along with Uranus and Saturn, hit all of my cardinal (badly). I've lost a cousin, aunts and uncles, and another aunt might be losing the battle this weekend. She's been off and on all week, sick for years, and stopped eating and drinking completely today.
I've lost a lot of pets, too.

Uranus square mum's Saturn in Cancer: Mum went into the hospital, and we lost her a month later. It's conjunct my Ceres, Chiron, Sun, and Pluto is heading for that in a while. I'm afraid of what else (or who) will be taken away from me.

I've had bad mental health issues, and physical health issues. I've been mostly numb for the past two weeks, but I'm afraid it's lurking there, waiting to come out.

I also feel like most of what's good about me, has disappeared - been taken away by Pluto. I had my mostly sweet little life, and now big chunks of it are gone, stolen over the past six/seven years. But especially the last few.

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my ability to be a good mother (Cancer moon), my sense of integrity and dignity (Cancer Saturn), my emotional health and loving heart and sense of self as a woman.

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posted August 06, 2016 11:04 PM            

The journey so far:

Love, marriage. Deaths of parent and friends. Solved issues with parents. Issues with the crazy in-laws during my s.o's saturn return in scorp. We got past that - our bond tested and proven to be quite strong lol. Moved a few times. Moved overseas and back. Miscarriages, kids. Reached financial stability, all that hard work finally paid off. I'm still in the process of making it even more secure though. Changed jobs and career paths. More artistic pursuits. Some health issues, but it's ok now.

posted August 06, 2016 11:05 PM            

His sun @ 14° Capricorn conjunct mine @ 15°.

posted August 06, 2016 11:10 PM            

((hug)) <-- if you don't mind

ETA:

posted August 07, 2016 02:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Lucia23:
Hugs back, I'm kind of glad yours has been uneventful! I think tPluto opposite my Moon was actually okay, and it was tPluto opposite my Saturn that was AWFUL.

It's weird that almost all of us have to live through losing our parents to death--except for the ones who die before their parents, or have lost their parents before that some other way (abandonment, incarceration, madness)---I just feel lucky that I was a full-on adult before it happened, I have a lot of friends whose parents died when they were kids/teens,that seems extra cruel and unfair.

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Yes, i know what you mean yeah.

It may be silly to others to think like this but i have waited for my life to stabilize before having kids. And now, it seems like it hasn't at all and so i am wondering if it's worth it to have any?

I guess there is no "ideal" time for such things but really on my side, i always felt like that yearning and feeling has to be strong. It's not there. I thought Pluto conjunct my Mercury (5th house ruler) would do it, but nope........

posted August 07, 2016 02:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Horrible relationship with my parents. Career falling apart. It's in my 10th house.

Once October 13 comes, it'll get out of my 10th house, for good!

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Oh, so u don't prescribe to the whole sign system. I see.

Weird how we believe Pluto is to "cleanse" things in our lives. It seems that for many it just breaks them.

Maybe i should count myself lucky that catastrophes haven't happened? But my willingness to put effort and work hard is met with so little reward during this transit.

posted August 07, 2016 03:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Kiimberly:
I've got so much going on in Capricorn. Pluto is just hovering around my Sun/Uranus/Neptune/Saturn in my fourth house and my life has been nothing but stagnant instability. Financial issues, relationship issues, mental health, career, everything except physical illness. I would really like for this energy to feel helpful and transformative, but it's been nothing but hard work with seemingly no payoff for so long. Exhausting.

Edit: things have only really been super stressful since pluto went retrograde. Hopefully pluto stationing direct in september straightens me out because pluto is going to be in Capricorn and my fourth house for years ;_;

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I think that Uranus/Neptune in your 4th is a contributing conductor. So much action in your 4th house natally can mean even more action by planetary transits.

I had a lot happen when Pluto was transiting my Sag stellium-moved to varsity, 1st time drinking, met new people, broke hearts and got my heart broken etc. And when it bowed out of Sag in 2008, i graduated and came out to my Mom. So that was both at times stressful, but so much was gained.

posted August 07, 2016 03:12 AM            

All that within a period of 7 years? I am really stunned

posted August 07, 2016 03:19 AM            

Not at all the "transformative" or awe-inspiring stuff that Pluto is famed for.

For me, Pluto is right between my natal T square. Now according to what is read, it is supposed to be a very "eventful" period. But there is so little to be said so far on it.

posted August 07, 2016 09:13 AM            

@muddy

posted August 07, 2016 10:19 AM            

He had a minor heart attack again last year. His doctors advised him earlier this year that he's in heart failure.

T Pluto is getting ready to back over my Mom's Sun/DSC and square her Moon again. Chiron Rx recently became conjunct her MC. Saturn Rx just entered her 6th house.

Pluto is 1 degree away from being exactly square my dad's Aries Sun. Chiron is in his 12th house, conjunct his ASC and will soon enter his 1st. T Sun is conjunct his NN exactly and T Mercury/NN conjunction is conjunct his Pluto in 6th.

Pluto is currently conjunct my natal Saturn in my 12th house. T Uranus is square my Chiron exactly. T Sun is conjunct my DSC exactly. T Mars is conjunct my MC exactly and Saturn is transiting my 10th. Oh, and T NN is conjunct my Mercury exactly.

I'm apprehensive and weary, at best. In addition to my dad's health issues, my mom has new health conditions that she has to manage every day. I have 5-6 health conditions of my own that have successfully put me out of work for the past year and half and developed soon after I graduated from college. I mourned the career I couldn't have and am still trying to build one that I can realistically have without doing my health in completely. Depression has kicked my butt more than a few times. We moved from a horrible place to a not so great place. My sibling has basically estranged himself from the family. My grandparents, aunts and cousins on both sides have estranged themselves from my parents. It's been tough and unfortunately Pluto has a long way to go before it moves out of Capricorn. I just hope that we all come out of okay.

The benefits...I got better at dealing with life when the SHTF. It puts the little stuff I worry about every day into perspective. I'm also closer to my parents now since we've all been going through it at the same time. My mom recently became more spiritual which seems to make her happy.

posted August 07, 2016 02:36 PM            

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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
Oh, so u don't prescribe to the whole sign system. I see.

Weird how we believe Pluto is to "cleanse" things in our lives. It seems that for many it just breaks them.

Maybe i should count myself lucky that catastrophes haven't happened? But my willingness to put effort and work hard is met with so little reward during this transit.

I just feel like i am nothing and nowhere

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posted August 07, 2016 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
15 degrees Pisces rising. If whole signs, then Pluto in Sagittarius would be my 10th. Using equal houses, it's the second half of Pluto in Sagittarius and the first half of Pluto in Capricorn.

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If you are Pisces rising, the 10th house cusp would be Sagittarius. And the 11th house cusp is Capricorn.

So the Pluto in Cap transit would be in your 11th house and likely affecting your friendship circle. Or at-least that is what the cookbook astrology says.

I think that Pluto in the 11th house would emphasize friendships that much more and you would feel like wanting to "belong". The social life would likely increase or you would dedicate some effort trying to liven it.

During this time you would probably end certain associations too.As Pluto is also about cutting lose "dead wood".