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Topic: Not fitting into your culture
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aquaguy91
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From: Wankety Wankerson
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted August 08, 2016 05:36 PM
  
What are some astrological things that might point to this?IP: Logged |
BeholdAstarte
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From: astral plane
Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 08, 2016 06:24 PM
angular/dominant: Pluto : doesn't fit into conventions/society, scoffs at simplistic trends and the superficial. pluto never really feels comfortable with any kind of "group" it cannot be categorized, its all and nothing Uranus: disruptive and independent. also has a hard time conforming and is naturally drawn to the "opposite" of what is being done at the moment or whatever is "popular". likes to be different but also feels like an alien. so of course, hard aspects, conjunctions.. will be more prominent. and angular is most strongly felt IMO or when conj personal planets IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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From: Fort Collins, CO
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posted August 08, 2016 06:36 PM
Saturn in the 12th indicates a native that must move far away from home into a foreign country to truly find themselves.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 12026
From: Wankety Wankerson
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted August 08, 2016 07:38 PM
Interesting. I have Pluto in the 9th and Saturn in the 12th house. Also, Uranus is my chart ruler, and it is in the 11th house and conjuncts Mercury and Neptune.IP: Logged |
Gemini30
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From: Los Angeles
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 08, 2016 07:41 PM
Saturn in the 4thIP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo
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From: Welcome to Mercury
Registered: Jul 2015
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posted August 09, 2016 01:11 AM
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
Saturn in the 12th indicates a native that must move far away from home into a foreign country to truly find themselves.
That's interesting. I have Saturn in 12th. I'm pretty content with the country I live in, which is the same one I was born in. I can't see that changing anytime soon. I don't know if this relates to anything that the OP is asking, but I have Uranus and Neptune in my 11th house. Whenever I'm sitting in a room with a bunch of people from my generation, I feel completely out of place. I usually gravitate towards people who are at least 5-6 years older than me, although many of my dearest friends have been 20-30 years older. They're also generally from a different place or culture. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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From: South Africa
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted August 09, 2016 04:07 AM
Jupiter in 9th tend to outgrow their fathers teachings and the father in chaldean astrology, is the ruler of the 4th.So since the father is the 4th, Jupiter in 9th suggests outgrowing the home,the father,the culture,the upbringing etc. Jupiter in 12th can altogether abandon the teachings of the father and adopt those from abroad either through geographical relocation or progressive studies. I would look to 9th and 12th as Pluto/Uranus in 4th could suggests that one rebels against the father, but is intent on creating their own home with their own rules i.sort of like repeating what the father has done and thinking that its "better" because its next door. The irony with Pluto/Uranus in 4th is that the natives children may repeat the pattern i.e rebel against the chart holder and seek their own homes etc. Uranus/Pluto has too much charge and momentum that its sort of like hating something but still means that you are invested in that something because of the connection to the charge of the eeling you have for it. But if you gravitate away from it through expansion or learning of other ways of being(Jupiter) or dissolving it(Neptune),it no longer has power or dominion. As you have replaced it with something else that is as a result of evolutionary progression than vengefulness (Pluto)or insistence of doing things your way(Uranus) etc. IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 18792
From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 09, 2016 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Jupiter in 9th tend to outgrow their fathers teachings and the father in chaldean astrology, is the ruler of the 4th.So since the father is the 4th, Jupiter in 9th suggests outgrowing the home,the father,the culture,the upbringing etc.
That's me. Well said.  I've outgrown everything I built for myself to replace my original upbringing, too. And life is still too tight. 9H Jupiter just keeps swelling.... IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted August 09, 2016 10:09 AM
I have Jupiter 9H. Ruler of 4H is Jupiter. Uranus rules my overall chart. Stellium 11H. Aqua Vertex.I ain't going to conform! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 09, 2016 10:25 AM
Saturn in the 12th is classic for the feeling of not fitting in, in general.------------------
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NeptunianAries
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posted August 09, 2016 04:42 PM
I have 9th house stellium including jupiter and jupiter conjuncts sun, asc ruler.4th house Pluto. I have always felt an outsider. Always wanted to go far far away. And then came back sadder and tried to recover. IP: Logged |
BeholdAstarte
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From: astral plane
Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 09, 2016 05:41 PM
my Uranus/Neptune/and Saturn are all conjunct in the 9th house, though Uranus is on the 8th house cusp. opposite my Jupiter in the 3rd, making a square to sun/mars/merc conjunction 6th house. I have tons of tension in my chart my pluto is on the DC which ive read to be a very "lone wolf" placement and its conjunct my venus in scorpio.. so def affects my interactions with others Mars also id add.. is known for its loner tendencies too so it naturally will kind of gravitate away from groups and tend to find itself alone since it needs to learn cooperation. ive never felt like I fit in, I had a very chaotic and disruptive upbringing and moved frequently. so a lot of people came and went from my life, and I always had a hard time socializing in school. I would make one friend and they usually stayed my friend until there was some sort of break then I was alone again. to this day, I don't feel like I fit into any sort of conformity or categorization, I don't really understand it.. but I just don't care for groups. I go on my own and do what I want, if people want to come along they can. I have friends from all over, but ultimately I am my own way, everything and nothing! IP: Logged |
Selenite
Knowflake Posts: 1184
From: Lyra
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 09, 2016 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
angular/dominant: Pluto : doesn't fit into conventions/society, scoffs at simplistic trends and the superficial. pluto never really feels comfortable with any kind of "group" it cannot be categorized, its all and nothing Uranus: disruptive and independent. also has a hard time conforming and is naturally drawn to the "opposite" of what is being done at the moment or whatever is "popular". likes to be different but also feels like an alien. so of course, hard aspects, conjunctions.. will be more prominent. and angular is most strongly felt IMO or when conj personal planets
I agree, especially Uranus-influenced people. I don't really fit in and I have Moon square Uranus. Another thing I think is ASC /DSC square Nodes, which I have. It's like what people expect of you, or want from you, just doesn't fit with where you're going. Online the only description I've seen about this placement is 'iconoclastic.' IP: Logged |
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