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charlie
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posted August 13, 2016 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 13, 2016 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry about the bigness..

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posted August 13, 2016 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would reply but I only believe in Primary Directions (where no planets change position except they rotate around the earth certain amount of degrees)

If you want I can generate and calculate that for you and interpret anything.

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posted August 13, 2016 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by soren:
I would reply but I only believe in Primary Directions (where no planets change position except they rotate around the earth certain amount of degrees)

If you want I can generate and calculate that for you and interpret anything.


Sure! What you need?

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posted August 13, 2016 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i need your birth location/date it will be fun to interpret

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posted August 13, 2016 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by soren:
i need your birth location/date it will be fun to interpret

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posted August 13, 2016 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're on the cusp of a major shift. With Cancer involved this shift will concern the home/mother/women and possibly a major house move.

Right now the focus is primarily on your immediate environment: education, thinking, connecting with neighbors, siblings, and the like.

In five to seven months this new season in your life will commence.

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posted August 13, 2016 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok thanks

Hm.. Hard to find out your exact ascendent, I don't know if an ascendent slowly decreases or increases it's speed of progression as you age. And by how much.

Do you personally feel more of the Scorp/Taurus axis or Sag/Gem (for your prog ascendent) ? I found for myself I have people of those signs have a strong significance and even dominate my friend group on that axis (including 12th house = pisces for pisces ascendent, attracting 12th house suns)

A progressed ascendent will for some reason attract more (for me anyway) than the natal. Even though the natal is much more important, for some reason it's like that at least for me.

So if you are attracting Sag's and Gem's especially and having those people play a dominant role in your life (I'm talking about new friends you like) then your prog. ascendent is likely there.

Wait. Well my intuition just pulled my eyes to where I thought your ASC would be (in Sag) but then I realized that would move it 90 degrees from the natal and that is too much I think. But let me know if what I said above resonated because maybe it did. But I vision that around this age for an average person the ascendant would move around 76 degrees. I might be off but I see some things that I think will resonate.


I posted your natal just for understanding how I made this progression.

(same charts just different time of the day)

So I'm only commenting on the second chart.

I see that your Sun moved into the 8th house several years ago. (I trust the placidus system, has proved accurate for me). But let me know if it was only just a FEW years ago where you began to have much more intuitive happenstances such as psychic stuff happening to you. When it happened just for my MERE moon, I started having more psychic things. Your moon also moved into Taurus a few to several years ago (since not 100% on your ASC).

So when that happened it would have been a time where you became more grounded and perhaps focused on material comfort more so than before. It will be like this for 15 more years. (Estimate)

It's important to mainly focus on the sun and moon because you feel them much stronger. The sun/moon in a progressed chart are still major themes in your life. But the planets are a minor theme which aren't quite as significant.

You have jupiter approaching the DESC so in years to come you are going to resonate more and more strongly with jupiter's energy. Philosophy. Jokes. Wisdom. They will be your escence. And Uranus is leaving your Asc (although you do seem quite uranian to me, which indicates I may have progressed your chart 5-10 degrees too far, as in uranus may still be very close to your ascendent).

Either way, you will be or would have been very contradictory and wild/electric as they say, for it would have probably been or has been like that for 10-13 years. But someday soon the energy of this planet uranus will lessen more-so and you won't be nearly as contradictory and stick out nearly as much (wish I had more descriptors for uranus, but you'll just slowly become less uranian)


This is kinda fun isn't it? I'm having fun because I trust in this technique.

Although you don't have as much first house placements as I, so I'm more interested in how it effects me, how it will make me feel, (self), but since you have natal sun in 11th, your probably more interested in Aquarian things, society, and people, thinking. So I don't exactly know what you'd be interested in finding out for your progressed chart. Maybe let me know. I'll try to be more broad and not focus on your *self* as much.

But I think my descriptions still apply pretty well. I'll keep going

You're lucky because you have some planetary house progressions to look forward to. Some people unfortunately in their progressed chart, they have to wait 10+ years to get a planet to change houses. But you have a couple on the verge such as uranus (if i entered the correct time) moving into the 11th. Eratic friends? Intelligent friends? Similar to uranus in aquarius. Or the exact same. Maybe. Hard to know 100%

Oh to find out where your actual progressed ascendent is- think about the time when you were MOST uranian. This will have been when it was conjunct your ascendent exact.

So pull up the chart (12 degrees before the prog. chart I've shown), link it to that year of life, to find out how far it progressed correlating to that year.

Another planet on the verge to changing themes is Saturn from the 9th (philosophy, wisdom, restrciction of adevnture? Idk. But responsibility in adventure and things Idk, responsible wisdom?) Will be changed to psychic things, I imagine such a orderly and wise- creating (creating in the self) as saturn in the 8th would lead to some really in depth understanding of the metaphysical and its workings. It sucks cause your sun is already there along with merc/probably venus and sorry to say but it's just going to get more psychic intuitive. Luckily your uranus will leave the 12th before saturn enters.


Edit: Your uranus may have entered the 11th 3 to several years ago. Think about the time when you had a huge shift in character. A huge change in yourself. This will be easier for you than others to find because you had a huge change when your sun AND moon changed houses at the exact same time. Since they are both equi-distant from a house change. You should be able to look back, and find a time when you had a huge change. This will be the time your sun/moon just crossed the 3rd/9th house cusp into the next houses, changing their flavour.

I'm only mapping half the changes. There is likely another house system involving the celestial to the horizon. So you may have already experienced a change of your sun/moon, or will experience another one.

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posted August 13, 2016 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soren, I need to melt this because it was a lot of info and 95% of it is correct. And....I've had a lot of weirdness in my life since 2012. LOTS of psychic stuff that has really scared me. I mean, some REALLY (!!!) weird a** shi*!

At some point, after much studying, I think I may or may not have had some Kundalini awakening that didn't exactly go the right way. I wasn't ready and ended up in ER :-/

I will leave this for now and ponder. THANK YOU!!! Really!

Oh, I currently consider myself wildly Uranian with a Plutonic twist..

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posted August 13, 2016 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i know primary directions are the real way to progress


so thats why its working for you.


i hope i didnt scare you by telling you about all your water placements.

you arent the most watery person so there are people who can relate to what your going through, its not terribly uncommon (think about radium- he's a pisces in the 4th house)

LOL

seriously.

only think about this as much as it makes you happy. if it makes you unhappy then discard/dont think about it any longer. Oh you consider yourself plutonic too? i havnt looked into pluto at all. Im still figuring out how significant it is. but i know that it is indeed. i'll add some pluto interpretations if i can.

I believe your kundalini awakening was when your sun/moon both changed houses at the same time.

i'll add i was concious of 2012 dec 21st when it happened, and i never felt any significant change. Not saying you believe that's what caused you to feel different (though i do believe in a gradual shift- not an instant one)- but just verifying that if that's when your psychic experiences started happening much stronger and more experiences, thats likely when your sun moved to the 8th. I may be wrong, but now i will use that info to re-calculate your chart.

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posted August 13, 2016 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alright. So if it is so that your sun/moon really changed houses in 2012. then that puts your average ascendent per year rate at 1.8 degrees (nothing to compare this to since its not solidly known how fast it moves, but people guestimate 1.5 on average)

So since it's been 4 years since 2012, the sun/moon changed houses when your ascendent was at 11 degrees scorp, 4 x 1.8 degrees per year = 7 = new ascendent at 18 deg scorp.

I see another major change like the one you had in 1-2 years. This is because of the other house system I mentioned (celestial-horizon). The luminaries will change houses in this system to the 2nd and 8th as well. There is nothing that you can't handle. There is nothing inherently "bad" about this either. Someone who had their sun and moon in complete fire signs and houses (both house systems) will do some of the most extraordinary things of mankind. Jumping off cliffs. They may not think as deeply. Or be in an emotional realm.

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posted August 13, 2016 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Your progressed chart if your sun/moon progressed in 2012.

Uranus's influence should be lessening on you and Jupiter's increasing.

No need to reply

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posted August 13, 2016 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not scared. I've just been wondering what the heck's been going on with me! My life was *somewhat* normal (as normal Uranus can make it...) until '12 and then floodgates opened and my life as I knew it was over. Weird situations, weird people, weird feelings and weirder thoughts out of nowhere.

Jupiter and wisdom have always been near and dear and ever since I can remember I have only wanted one thing= to become older and wiser.

I am extremely wild/contradictory/electric/eccentric and I have a way of making people really unsettled. Not fun! Deep down I just want to sit on a field and smell the flowers around me but it's not exactly materializing that way. I keep getting pin-balled from one absurd situation to the next. For some time I have strongly felt the year of 2017 being a big shift for me.

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posted August 13, 2016 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. 2017 is likely what I said both sun and moon changing the OTHER house system.

I've never in my life had a huge change happen in my feelings. It's got to be from your whole inner world

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posted August 13, 2016 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sometimes feel really messed up as I lie in bed, I almost feel like I've existed forever. I almost feel like it was just a second ago that I was born. It feels messed up. I told my friend, "isn't it weird how we are just born, and then we die?"


I do think we are shifting of the ages to get even more intuitive awareness and understanding of ethers more than before. But obviously water placements are even more keen on it happening.

I think it's a special time. And because messed up stuff has happened to you, well its happened to me, and we are two humans in concious awareness. We are unmasking the sacred secrets. This reality is much more than even aliens can understand. That's what I feel. Life is amazing and I love all my crazy psychic things

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posted August 13, 2016 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
charlie,

Most of what you've been going through and are even now relates to Pluto in transit conjunct your Moon and Uranus square it 2013-16. Pluto is now right on top of your natal Moon while retrograde, which means it will come back for another pass in Oct/Nov in direct motion. Uranus has since been opposite natal Venus, and at the end of the year Uranus just comes back within 5° or so of square to your Moon. Hopefully, its not tight enough to be felt. However, that is clearly a time of instability at home and in love relationships, but of course, not insurmountable an obstacle to happiness.

Those transit figures are of drastic changes that can be outer, but will almost certainly involve some reversals or re-adjustments. They are also very much inner changes by way of outer revelations in life circumstances and personal behaviors, habit changes, reactions, etc.

When seen alongside current progressions (which I will not detail here) they point to a kind of ongoing crisis that affects you emotionally in a major way. They may also affect virtually every life structure (or attempt at restructuring) around you.

I strongly recommend that you get help from a suitable professional or very skilled person who can counsel you privately from an objective place. I know personally how difficult these transits are, as I have made some similar drastic changes as well these last few years (my Moon is 3 degrees earlier in Cap than yours). It does take some outside input, no matter how strong-willed you are or how optimistic you are. These are some of the most trying astrological influences of anyone's lifetime.

Good luck.

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posted August 13, 2016 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Each day that goes by, transits never make me feel very different. Especially when the sun is on the cusp and is changing signs its very subtly felt. Almost unoticeable. Each time the moon passes her sun or moon, does she get a life changing occurence for that night? It's progressions that make anyone feel majorly different. Transits are much weaker. The natal is, using P.D., your babies hardwirings to the ethers. Once they are set they can't be undone they are for life information locked in your brain

A sensitive complex blank canvas which upon first rubbing and fidgeting with will become unchangeable (mostly)

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posted August 14, 2016 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
charlie,

Most of what you've been going through and are even now relates to [b]Pluto in transit conjunct your Moon and Uranus square it 2013-16. Pluto is now right on top of your natal Moon while retrograde, which means it will come back for another pass in Oct/Nov in direct motion. Uranus has since been opposite natal Venus, and at the end of the year Uranus just comes back within 5° or so of square to your Moon. Hopefully, its not tight enough to be felt. However, that is clearly a time of instability at home and in love relationships, but of course, not insurmountable an obstacle to happiness.

Those transit figures are of drastic changes that can be outer, but will almost certainly involve some reversals or re-adjustments. They are also very much inner changes by way of outer revelations in life circumstances and personal behaviors, habit changes, reactions, etc.

When seen alongside current progressions (which I will not detail here) they point to a kind of ongoing crisis that affects you emotionally in a major way. They may also affect virtually every life structure (or attempt at restructuring) around you.

I strongly recommend that you get help from a suitable professional or very skilled person who can counsel you privately from an objective place. I know personally how difficult these transits are, as I have made some similar drastic changes as well these last few years (my Moon is 3 degrees earlier in Cap than yours). It does take some outside input, no matter how strong-willed you are or how optimistic you are. These are some of the most trying astrological influences of anyone's lifetime.

Good luck.

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Kannon, I don't really have a problem with the Pluto squares and oppositions because I like to "transform". I like to hit bottom and slowly find a new path. This has just been/is different.

Do you mean astrological professional help or psychological??

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posted August 14, 2016 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
charlie, yes I see that in your natal chart with the contra-parallel between Uranus and Pluto, as well as other factors.

I recommend a skilled counselor or intuitive who can cut through the circumstance to what is of core importance. I recently got such benefits from a reading by Voix_de_la_mer, but I don't know what is appropriate to your situation. I recommend something like that rather than astrological input, even professional, because you have transits and progressions adverse to use of astrology at this time.

To answer you original question more directly, what I see in your progressed chart are continued changes and some hard processing and decisions to be made. I think it is good to be proactive in this.

I took this seriously knowing some of what you've been through the last few years, and I'll just say this period of change and instability is still on, not over yet. It would be better to have input from out of what is your norm of familiar terms -- not astrology. There is an opportunity for sharpened awareness, even if some of it is not enjoyable, it will be empowering.

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