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posted August 13, 2016 09:04 AM            

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Am I missing something here? I have Natal Retro Saturn at 25°Aqua 54'.

On June 3rd, 2022, Saturn will station Retro at 25°Aqua15'. After that, it'll pass onto Pisces, and it won't touch my Natal Saturn with the same degree until my SECOND Saturn Return in 2052? Am I missing something?

Has anyone noticed this before? Am I forever stuck in a Pre-Saturn return phase until my second one?

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posted August 13, 2016 10:19 AM            

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Don't worry! You have a true saturn return. Saturn will go through 25 degrees in aqua sure enough on June 2022 and again on the end of January 2023. It won't continue to Pisces without going through Aquarius 25 first. You'll have a solar return like everybody else's have. Hope it will be speciall in a good way for you.

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posted August 13, 2016 10:34 AM            

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It will go through 25 degree in 2022, but not exact w/ my natal, doesn't a true "return" of planet have to be exact degrees?

In 2023, it will stop it's retro motion at around 1° Pisces, doesn't look like it'll head back int Aqua!

I'm sure it'll be unique in it's own, though

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posted August 13, 2016 10:52 AM            

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At a certain moment Saturn will go through the exact degree where it was when you were born. There's no escape from it. Perhaps the exact degree is not mentioned in the ephemeris, but Saturn will move through it nontheless...

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posted August 13, 2016 12:13 PM            

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It will pass by when stationed direct. But the energy is so much different. It won't touch my exact natal degree until 2052. Saturn seems to miss the last 5 degrees of Aqua that year while retro.

Maybe it's not recorded in the ephemeris like you said.

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posted August 13, 2016 01:16 PM            

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It`s just not listed in the ephemeris. Every planet has to touch every single degree and minute of the zodiac at a certain time, sometimes more than once, due to retrogradation, but it seems once it has touched yours, it will not retrograde back to that exact degree again.

But it will pass the exact degree and minute of your natal Saturn at least once in 2022

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posted August 13, 2016 01:21 PM            

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Your Saturn Return will take place on 1st february 2023.

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posted August 13, 2016 02:43 PM            

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posted August 13, 2016 02:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
but it seems once it has touched yours, it will not retrograde back to that exact degree again.

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Exactly. On Feb. 1 2023 it does touch the exact degree, but not in retrograde motion until my second return in 2052.

So I understand it will still feel like a "Saturn Return", but I bet it won't be in full force until it finally returns completely in 2052.

Interesting, huh? I know someone right now about to go through a retro Saturn return, and it's going to retro back over their Natal position exactly. But mine won't!

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posted August 13, 2016 04:07 PM            

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Saturn return doesnt mean that Saturn needs to be in a retrograde motion. Saturn return means that saturn returns in its natal position, direct or retro or stationary - that doesnt matter. In fact, consider yourself lucky that saturn will pass thru your natal position just once while in a direct motion, otherwise if it passes and turns back in a retro motion, you would have had 3 saturn returns.

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posted August 13, 2016 05:45 PM            

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Well, I didn't think of it that way. 3 Saturn Returns sounds rather uncomfortable. I just assumed it would have to be retro to be considered a return, I guess that doesn't matter.

Thanks everyone!

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