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ChildofVenus
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posted August 15, 2016 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've read that having this aspect in a natal chart could cause the person to be manipulative.

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posted August 15, 2016 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this. I don't think I am manipulative. I have very intense emotions though. Sometimes I can't control them.

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posted August 15, 2016 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieMG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have this aspect, Moon in Capri (8th) square Pluto in Scorpio (5th), I don't see myself as a manipulative person. On the contrary, I think I'm very permeable to others.

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posted August 15, 2016 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for strawberryaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm.. I have Moon square Pluto and I can definitely be manipulative, but I also have Mercury and Mars conjunction in 8th house opposite pluto.

Also I think my Moon square Pluto makes me obsessive sometimes.

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posted August 15, 2016 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon Pluto will do that because of the intensity of their emotions. They feel they don't have any choice, when backed into a corner will pull out the big guns to defend their incredible sensitivity... remember... always remember how sensitive Pluto is, and Scorpio... this is a little bit like having a Scorpio Moon... incredibly sensitive, very very thin skin, though they seem strong they're in emotional turmoil. Absolutely Moon Pluto people can be prone to control and manipulation, but the point is to understand why.

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posted August 15, 2016 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well obviously everyone can and so can we,maybe difference is in how supremly we do it compared to others,thing is that we dont do it out of fun,or just because we are borede ,ourr manipulations are our emotional reaction to things we feel we cant awoid in the very moment.

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posted August 15, 2016 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yun

Exactly ! If you analyse and deeply understand where your feelings or aspects of your personality come from, you can have a more specific idea of what does what in your chart.

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posted August 15, 2016 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Moon Pluto will do that because of the intensity of their emotions. They feel they don't have any choice, when backed into a corner will pull out the big guns to defend their incredible sensitivity... remember... always remember how sensitive Pluto is, and Scorpio... this is a little bit like having a Scorpio Moon... incredibly sensitive, very very thin skin, though they seem strong they're in emotional turmoil. Absolutely Moon Pluto people can be prone to control and manipulation, but the point is to understand why.

Exactly.

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posted August 16, 2016 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Girls with this aspect are usually sexy af I'll tell you that much..bring ur mean ass over here

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posted August 16, 2016 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really? Lol I've never read anything about this being a sexy aspect.
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Originally posted by Radium:
Girls with this aspect are usually sexy af I'll tell you that much..bring ur mean ass over here

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posted August 16, 2016 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
me neither,i need to know more xD

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posted August 16, 2016 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Peluches:
Yun

Exactly ! If you analyse and deeply understand where your feelings or aspects of your personality come from, you can have a more specific idea of what does what in your chart.


yes. It's so interesting to try to sort it out, to feel deeply and see what's going on...

And it's so fun to practise chart synthesis in real time too... lately I've been noticing this... sometimes I'm like "oh, that's his Uranus acting up because of transiting Saturn over it..." (just an example). But the layers of his actions are informed by multiple chart factors at once, all interwoven and creating the pattern and expression I see before me... it isn't just his Uranus, although due to its isolation in the chart it could be acting out, but really the coherent pattern includes everything at once.. t's fascinating

Taking into account the Moon's aspects and nodes of the Moon always yields very important insights. Best not to forget to include this one, if we want to.understand one another's lived experience and emotional reality! Or our own.

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posted August 16, 2016 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Moon Pluto will do that because of the intensity of their emotions. They feel they don't have any choice, when backed into a corner will pull out the big guns to defend their incredible sensitivity... remember... always remember how sensitive Pluto is, and Scorpio... this is a little bit like having a Scorpio Moon... incredibly sensitive, very very thin skin, though they seem strong they're in emotional turmoil. Absolutely Moon Pluto people can be prone to control and manipulation, but the point is to understand why.

This is so true. I come off strong and intimidating. I have been told this by others. But inside, if they could only see. It feels like a tornado sometimes.

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posted August 16, 2016 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Absolutely not.


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posted August 16, 2016 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Absolutely not.


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posted August 18, 2016 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone comment on the sexy part about having this aspect?

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posted August 18, 2016 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Moon opposite Pluto exact with my Moon in the 8th. I can resort to manipulation if need be but often I don't need to and/or often don't worry about such.

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