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hypatia238
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posted August 19, 2016 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. I met my husband during a solar return were the ruler of the DC was pluto and was falling in the 8th conjuncting my natal sun/moon midpoint and Neptune plus trining my natal venus and mars.

2. I met my ex during a solar return were Venus was ruling the DC and forming a grand trine with Moon and Uranus: Venus conjuncted my natal pluto and Uranus conjuncted my IC while the moon conjuncted my North node. Also saturn and Jupiter were on the 7th house and Saturn conjuncted my natal Chiron.

A month later we got together officially around my birthday and that solar return had ruler of the 7th as the sun falling in the 8th with Venus conjunct vertex on the 7th on star regulus conjuncting our composite Atropos.

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posted August 19, 2016 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The year we got married was towards the last quarter of my 2010 solar return. My ex soulmate reached out to me that year and I met a new soulmate as well:

Venus was the chart ruler and it was on the 7th conjuncting Mars the DC ruler and asteroid union. DC ruler Mars was conjuncting exact union and the DC.This exact stellium was activated by my natal saturn. Pluto was in the 9th sextiling exact my natal Saturn!

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posted August 19, 2016 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The year we first moved to Colorado my husband had ruler of his IC as the moon at 0 degrees in Pisces sextile exact pluto in the 9th at 0 degrees in Capricorn.

In my case the ruler of my IC was Mars in Cancer falling in the 7th trining Uranus in the 3rd and inconjunct Jupiter; SR Jupiter right on my natal IC. SR Mars is disposited by SR moon which was conjunct SR MC and my natal Pluto which is my chart ruler. Further solar return southnode was conjunct exact my natal Atropos!

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Fascinating the second time I moved to Colorado ruler of my SR IC was Venus in the 2nd which also formed a grand trine with Uranus in the 10th and moon in the 6th with Venus conjuncting my natal MC, Valentine and Priapus and SR Uranus conjuncted my natal Pholus! SR moon squared my sun, ruler of my MC..also Venus 4HR inconjuncted Chiron in the 9th and sextiled mercury in the 4th house.

The year I had to move back to Miami due to losing so much ruler of the IC was Mars falling in the 8th and it trined SR moon conjunct IC and Uranus activated by my natal Pholus and SR Mars ruling the IC conjuncted natal MC. SR south node was in the 4th.

It seems that the MC can be heavily activated as well when there are big moves accross the country indicating an important change in direction. This second move coincided with me finding a better job that has more benefits and pays better illustrated by ruler of 4th Venus falling in the 2nd trining Uranus in the 10th and conjuncting natal MC and finishing a grand trine with SR moon on the 6th..

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posted August 20, 2016 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
During the year I moved to the USA the ruler of the IC for that solar return was Jupiter and Neptune. SR Neptune was conjuncting SR Uranus in the 2nd and Neptune 4HR inconjuncted Chiron in the 9th with my natal North node activating that by completing a yod.

Further SR Jupiter also 4HR was conjuncting SR Sun and mercury which got activated by my natal sun opposite moon.

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posted August 20, 2016 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you use unprecessed solar returns, right?

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posted August 20, 2016 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first time I moved and moved out from home was during my Saturn Return.

Solar Return had

IC on 21 Cap on my n Avx and Sun/Moon-mp
Saturn was retro on 25 Gemini in 9th house and oppopsing my natal Sun and Mercury, and obviously Sun was falling into the SR 3rd house.

- I hated it! -


SR ASC on 16 Libra fell into my natal 10th house and squared my natal Saturn in 8th houe exactly.
I moved out because of job-reasons, as I had to complete my education in this city, and had my "teacher in training" 2 years there, and I was just completely overwhelmed with all the responsibility.

There was also however

SR Moon and SR NN in 8th house conjunct my natal DESC;
Plus
SR Venus on 11 Scorpio conjunct SR Mars on 10 Scorpio at the end of the 1st house and in natal 11th house.
SR Juno on 6 Scorpio was on SR AVx on 7 Scorpio.


Well I guess that one guy from the group of co-teacher in trainings might have liked me more than I really could believe back then. I guess the fact he was constantly driving me around, bumping coincidentally into me in the city so we would have lunch together, and bringing me flowers and a ring to my birthday that year (though the ring was really not just a present of him, but him and another - female- aquaintances had both given it to me as present), or walking me home from the club (yes during thta year I was actually sometimes going out!!! ) because it was dark, well Ig uess this should have given me some hints about that. But well, he was only a friend. He probably really was. But now that I think of it, he certainly was trying to be a really good friend. -

the SR Venus-Mars was squared by SR Neptune in 4th house however.


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The year I moved after that

IC on 14 Cancer conjunct BML
Moon on 11 Pisces in 12th house, exact conjunct my natal Jupiter in 3rd house

square SR Mercury in 8th house (on my natal Node)

SR Saturn on 25 Cancer in 4th house opposing SR Chiron 24 Capricorn in 10th house


While I started that new home with enthusiasm, it was not good for me in the end. I was isolating myself a lot, and being increasingly unhappy there, feeling like my life was sort of gliding out of my hands, which it was, very detrimental development.

So Imoved back to my hometown, where I simply have more contacts I can be dealing with freely.

Curiously it had SR IC on 2 Libra conjunct SR Saturn on 4 Libra, right on my natal MC on 4 Libra, but it was a good decision, as I gave my life a definite up-turn. WEll not instantly but gradually.
And yet you wuold think this was going to be a desaster.

Sr Saturn also squared SR Pluto on 2 Cancer making a T-square with my natal Venus on 6 Cap.


SR Moon was square natal Pluto exact, and placed in SR 6th house.


Hmm seems I tend to move when Saturn is in my 4th house in Solar return. Of all planets!

WEll so I guess 2019 there might be a move again.


SR Saturn on 9 Cap in SR 4th house, and conjunct my n Venus (and square my n Pluto, ouch).


I guess it will be because I am going to get married.


SR Desc will fall exact on my natal Juno.
the rulers of SR ASC and SR DESC will be conjunct in Sagittarius at the end of 3rd house and with SR Jupiter (ruler of DESC) conjunct the IC, plus they will be conjunct my natal Mars-ASC.

SR Venus will be on 10 Scorpio sextile SR Saturn in 4th (as ruler of 5th house) - the years with SR Venus in Scorpio tend to be ----- special.


SR Moon conjunct SR Uranus in aries in 8th house trine Sun in 5th house - it will be a surprise to me?


SR Juno in 9th exact trine SR Pluto on the cusp of 5th house.

Well what is looking weird is the Mars-Neptune-conjunction in Pisces on the DESC

Neptune 13 Pisces
DESC 16 Pisces
Mars 20 Pisces

but then again it brings out my natal Mars-Neptune-ASC into manifestation I guess.
and it doesn`t have any nasty aspects, except that Mars might be considered square to Sun on 26 Sag.

Possibly, whatever takes place in THAT year 2019, might begin this year as I find it just so very obvious, that this year`s Solar Return has

IC on 16°02 Pisces

And in 2019

DESC on 16°20 Pisces

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posted August 20, 2016 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fascinating Ceri, 2019 does seem like an important year and I love how you connect it back to this year. I did not know SR Venus in Scorpio tends to be significant in SR charts. Your "friend" certainly seems to like you yes, I agree.

I do find it very interesting that saturn is so active in the SR charts of the years you move but it sounds like moving for you was often linked to career or work or higher learning for the purpose of career or work and that you didn't end up loving moving but it served as an important purpose so I guess in that context it makes sense..

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posted August 20, 2016 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess, the next years might be important one way or the other.

Well I do not have contact to that friend anymore, it was really only during these 2 years.

And yes whenever I moved it had to do with work, except for the last time I moved, but even that was a move because of a certain responsibility, so I can be around for my brother (who has Down synderome) when my parents are going on a trip, and they can look after my appartment as well.

But though it sounds very dutybound it was also a move back to address some things from the past and well maybe not heal them but move on from them in a sense. I can`t change the past, but I create my present.

oh and SR Venus in Scorpio - it might be just me. lol
I just noticed that in those more romantic years SR Venus seems to be in Scorpio (curiously it is there now. lol trine my n Saturn and n Juno, making a Grand Trine, and trine Solar Return Moon in Pisces on my n Juno and Solar Return IC, though Solar Return Chiron is there at the bottom as well - and yes I did address a lot of issues this year again, I sometimes can be my own biggesst obstacle. lol)


However SR Venus in Cap or Sag might not be half as bad either, so maybe it is just coincidence about the Scorpio-Venus-thing.

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posted August 21, 2016 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My solar return coming up is interesting. Amor will be on my North node.

The chart ruler will be Venus in the 1st and it will be conjuncting my natal pluto and opposing SR Uranus in the 7th with SR Uranus ruling SR 5H, then SR Mars which is ruling the 7th will be trining and sextiling SR Venus opposite SR Uranus.

SR Uranus will be trining exact my natal Venus. SR Mars will be conjuncting natal sun/moon midpoint and my Neptune and it will be trining my natal Venus conjunct mars. Actually SR Uranus trine SR Mars is forming a grand trine with my Venus conjunct Mars...

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posted August 21, 2016 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
My solar return coming up is interesting. Amor will be on my North node.

The chart ruler will be Venus in the 1st and it will be conjuncting my natal pluto and opposing SR Uranus in the 7th with SR Uranus ruling SR 5H, then SR Mars which is ruling the 7th will be trining and sextiling SR Venus opposite SR Uranus.

SR Uranus will be trining exact my natal Venus. SR Mars will be conjuncting natal sun/moon midpoint and my Neptune and it will be trining my natal Venus conjunct mars. Actually SR Uranus trine SR Mars is forming a grand trine with my Venus conjunct Mars...


Very curious to see how this plays out...

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posted August 22, 2016 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri the year that I moved to the USA a month bf I turned 10 saturn was transiting my 4th house actually...that move was bittersweet and such transit made it hard to let go of the past and truly embrace the move. While moves involving Uranus feel more exciting and something I want.

Like I lost a lot but I did long for this move, it just came with a sacrifice and my first Saturn lesson of learning to let go of that which I am deeply attached to. Even though I wanted the move to happen I didn't know what I was craving and how deeply hard and painful it will be to let go of my country of origin, extended family, grandparents and childhood friends yet I never felt I truly belonged there either at least not long term.

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