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Topic: The signs, fighting, and making up
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 8661 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 20, 2016 12:37 PM
I was just thinking about this, due to a personal relationship that is suddenly good again, but I'm supposed to actually be leaving the house, so I need to go.For myself: Aries will almost flatten you with their happiness, at an inkling that frost is melting. I've edited part of this out, and might post it again later. I'm tired, and in a rush, and am not sure if it's wise to talk about it right now.
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Empty Spaces Knowflake Posts: 1017 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 20, 2016 12:45 PM
Capricorn: I make some joke or sometimes I just pretend nothing happened and they seems to do the same thing IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2900 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted August 20, 2016 01:14 PM
For myself, Cap.It depends, if the fight is because of me then I'd apologize, explain things and bring food as a peace offering...etc... and see how they response. If it's because of the other party, then well I just roll with whatever they're comfortable with. Of course, if it's bad enough or if then there will be no making up. If both of us have our share of blame, usually I'd wave the peace flag first. I'm only talking about people who are close to me and/or whom I have some certain respect and affection for. If it's some random person, I'd simply dismiss thoughts about them. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 3821 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted August 20, 2016 03:41 PM
I'm a Cancer Sun/Cap Moon/Virgo ASC, MarsI fight clean UNLESS you start twisting words around or become seriously illogical at which point I'll just: 1: walk away 2: spew fire from hell on you 3: present the entire encyclopedia (hello VIRGO!!) for you until you bang your head, or mine, against the wall. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 3200 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted August 20, 2016 03:54 PM
Sag Sun-I tend to avoid any type of drama. But if there should be a disagreement,i withdraw, become distant and avoid you until i feel better about "us".IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91 Knowflake Posts: 341 From: Registered: Mar 2016
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posted August 20, 2016 04:32 PM
If its my fault i have no problem saying sorry and explaining myself. But if the person acts butthurt and immature esp even after i have apologized i will not continue to try to make up, i will just let them go. If its bc of the other person an apology is enough for me. Libra sun. IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo Knowflake Posts: 1456 From: Welcome to Mercury Registered: Jul 2015
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posted August 20, 2016 05:01 PM
My first instinct is to dismantle your argument piece by piece by injecting facts into would-be irrational and illogical statements. With references if possible, which drives people batty. I also point out hypocrisy, contradictions and double standards. Basically any flaw in an argument. I don't apologize first, even if I feel my drive/passion to argue fade. Call it stubbornness...I see no reason to apologize if I don't feel that I'm wrong. Unless I've hurt their feelings or they're visibly upset, in which case I'll give in and do my best to make up for it. I easily feel bad when I think I've upset someone or hurt their feelings. I tend to go overboard trying to make up for it. If my feelings have been hurt, I retreat and isolate. I brood like the crabby 4th house Gemini Moon/Mars that I am. Virgo stellium, Aquarius ASC, 4th House Moon/Mars No quoting please. IP: Logged |
Electro DGX Knowflake Posts: 1160 From: Plutanus/Uruno Registered: Jul 2015
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posted August 20, 2016 05:26 PM
Placements in signature. Should also add that my Scorpio Mars is conjunct the Ascendant in the first exact. I have a tendency to become very angry very quickly, so often I will easily explode and start yelling when pushed because of my frustration, which is easy to fabricate. Of course, I can handle a certain amount of bull-crap, but at some point it becomes so bad that I just won't deal with it anymore. I think that the type of arguments here would also be something to consider. I used to try to consider all the logical points of an argument in the attempt to completely annihilate them with what could be called "absolute facts". I would be so concerned with trying to prove them wrong that it's all that I would think about. However, after a while of approaching things like this, I realized that no matter how logical or accurate my arguments are, they will not put an end to the fight at hand. I could try to come up with all the 100% valid reasons as to why they're wrong, but it still won't change the fact that they are upset at me for a reason they believe is right, and because of that the argument typically won't end. In the heat of the moment I am completely consumed with anger and rage (Mars in Scorpio parallel Pluto with Moon-Pluto opposition) and have a tendency to be overwhelmed with my anger. It's not so bad as to having a lack of control though; I'm completely aware of everything that is going on when I'm angry, so often if I do something it is on purpose instead of just being consumed by rage, an issue a lot of people have to deal with. When the argument itself has stopped, I tend to ignore the person and want to get away from them before I resort to getting physical. However, with time, I do manage to carefully consider the situation at hand and can acknowledge if I'm wrong or not. I don't like being wrong, yes, but I have the guts to admit I'm wrong and apologize for something I did that I felt was wrong. Usually those that can accept my apology are friends, but those that don't and continue to push my buttons are tossed away and I consider them no more. I shut them out of my life and they are no longer existent. I don't like losing friends, and those that want to stay friends with me as much as I want to with them tend to stay as my friends. I used to be a people-pleaser, and often wouldn't get mad at people in consideration of how they felt (4th-house Aqua S.N.), but now I just don't care anymore. I'm just done with trying to make people happy anymore, and if I don't like them I will make it clear that I don't like them. Sometimes I feel like my Neptune wants to be empathetic and mend all the ties but I have to understand that some ties are severed for a reason, and I should just accept that reason instead of dwelling on it. ------------------ Scorpio Ascendant Aquarius Sun in 4th Gemini Moon in 8th Check out my blog ya'll: www.electrodgxtalks.wordpress.com IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91 Knowflake Posts: 341 From: Registered: Mar 2016
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posted August 20, 2016 05:35 PM
"I do manage to carefully consider the situation at hand and can acknowledge if I'm wrong or not. I don't like being wrong, yes, but I have the guts to admit I'm wrong and apologize for something I did that I felt was wrong. Usually those that can accept my apology are friends, but those that don't and continue to push my buttons are tossed away and I consider them no more. I shut them out of my life and they are no longer existent. I don't like losing friends, and those that want to stay friends with me as much as I want to with them tend to stay as my friends. Some ties are severed for a reason" ^ This is exactly how i am too. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2734 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 21, 2016 11:59 AM
I'm not sure what in my chart causes this. I don't have any specific criteria for when I apologize or when I want an apology. Quite often I find them to be awkward moments. I'll often sense it in their behavior and consider it apology enough. I don't need the words. Real life example: Twice a guy at work has pi**ed me off. I got mad and said some things about his "snarky f**king attitude" and got in his face. Time went by. One day he was forced to work overtime at the end of our shift but had a dentist appointment. No one could work for him. I walked up to him, told him, "Don't cancel your appointment. I'll work for you." To me, that's apology enough and since then he's done similar things for me. Apology accepted. I've written apologies to people, here in fact, but in those cases it was where I may have done some serious damage to them or caused them a lot of emotional pain at some point. It's the kind of situation where I don't expect the acceptance of my apology, but to offer it lifts a weight off. If they do accept it, they can do so silently in their hearts and that's fine too. Sometimes apologies to me are for mending hearts, not relationships. There's so much to this topic for me. It's not simple. Sometimes I don't feel bad about hurting people's feelings. It's really such a complex thing. I'll say "Sorry" if I miss holding the door open for someone. That's perhaps a little different than the topic was aiming for. Other times, I'll offer an apology as anyone as would. Particularly regarding misunderstandings. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 11479 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 21, 2016 12:12 PM
"I don't have any specific criteria for when I apologize or when I want an apology. Quite often I find them to be awkward moments. I'll often sense it in their behavior and consider it apology enough. I don't need the words." - YES. But it's ironic because I feel really bad when I seriously offend other people so I go overboard trying to explain my behavior and that's probably more awkward for them than I realized (thinking of a few situations in the past, nothing current). With friends I will usually bring up the offense in a joking way and little by little at first because, well, you can't just come back and think I'm going to let you off the hook completely. It's a small penance to pay I suppose, and I feel justified in it because I wouldn't deny any petty behavior lest they brought it up, so I expect the same. Sun sextile ASC Sun square Saturn Sun square Neptune Sun sextile Mars Sun conjunct Mercury Sun conjunct Venus Moon opp. Pluto Mercury & Venus sextile Mars Mars conjunct ASC Mars inconjunct Pluto Lots of Aries and Gemini, then a Taurus moon. IP: Logged |
colorful butterfly Knowflake Posts: 458 From: Durham north carolina usa Registered: May 2015
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posted August 21, 2016 04:34 PM
Libra moon, I always apologize or make a joke to clear the air if I'm at fault. If the other is then I wait for them to say something but doesn't take me long to get over things depnds on the situation. IP: Logged |
BeholdAstarte Knowflake Posts: 631 From: astral plane Registered: Dec 2009
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posted August 23, 2016 03:59 PM
Haha I can relate to the virgo influenced folk I have my sun/Mars/merc conj in the 6th house with a Virgo moon. Taurus ASC and my Venus conjunct Pluto on DC. Pluto is closely parallel my Mars by 6 seconds and my sun/Mercury. Typically when I'm annoyed it comes out in a flurry of words. I'm very direct and blunt, which comes across a lot more critical and harsh then I intend to most of the time and I will let someone know EXACTLY what they did to annoy me lol. Ha.. Oooh Virgo influence, makes me so damn logical and cold, I'm glad libra makes me forgiving and accepting, I usually just give in and let go most of the time, maybes it's also my Mars conjunction but I blow up suddenly, have a hot temper but I'm over it just as fast.. Unless someone REALLY did something to hurt me. But I try to talk things out with people, I try to word myself in a nice way as to not to offend people, i will apologize when needed or I know when I said something wrong, I'm pretty forgiving most of the time..probably too sweet most of the time. I honestly don't like confrontation (libra!) but my Mars conjunction doesn't really give me a choice now does it?! Neiither does my angular Pluto.. Now I don't usually go to extremes in my emotions outwardly.. My Scorpio Venus conjunct Pluto and my Taurus rising DOES NOT want to lose control Infront of others.. And neither does libra. So I usually hold things in and try to talk them out and if the person never tries to talk to me about it, or there just continues to be fighting and such, I will definitely end up exploding. And when I explode (which isn't often) my rage I've been told is pretty scary, especially my eyes. I in a sense snap, will psychologically tear people apart and I'm relentless, verbally and hopefully not physically.. i almost feel like it's my "other" personality haha. I'm so patient and sweet 90% of the time, then when I crossover.. I'm so intense!! IF someone pushes me to this point where I snap and feel like a raging psycho inside.. Lol, once I get everything I want to say out, I will cut them out of my life immediately and never even look back or give them a second chance. Every time the other person tries to apologize and make mends but I'm over it at that point, I have zero interest in wanting to put my energy into the person. This happens with my ex's who hurt me, friends, bosses, people in general. I'll take a lot from people but once I get past a point, I won't even take a glance back, the person is nothing to me anymore. I don't usually apolojized at that point because I'm not sorry for what I said, or if I hurt the persons feelings, they need to be able to handle their actions and the truth.. I seem to have a hard time sympathizing with that. When I get to this point I really do have a hard time forgiving and forgetting.. I use to have issues with that ha, if someone did something rude or anything to me that wasn't positive I would remember for days, years!! And still not trust the person from day 1 to 3 years rolling ha.. So most of the time a fight will just be a verbal argument that can be smoothed over with understanding feelings, the less common times.. When fights are turning abusive or unfair in anyways and my kindness is being taken advantage of, or something really gets under my skin, I'll tear the person apart then drop them. So it's rather extreme but that's the pattern ha. IP: Logged |
Soltze Knowflake Posts: 1174 From: Registered: Mar 2015
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posted August 23, 2016 04:15 PM
As a Gemini Sun, Mercury and Jupiter. I will talk things out and analyse it all with the person but get read for some dark honesty when making up. Scorpio Moon heheIP: Logged |
DualGemV2 Newflake Posts: 1 From: Registered: Aug 2016
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posted August 24, 2016 02:18 AM
As a Gemini Sun male with heavy Mercury aspectsI look at all sides of the argument and make a fair conclusion based on the facts. If you can point out something specific that I missed I will compromise. But.. I'm very independent and I have my own ways of doing things if someone disagrees with my plans without providing any valid logic or reason I get p*ssed. For example last weekend my Aquarius friend told me she knew someone that needed help moving and I said to her sure, I wouldn't mind. He's a veteran from Afghanistan suffering from PTSD. So I figured it would be worth it to help him. We just moved three couches and I was about to move a piano with two other guys. My Aquarius friend comes in and starts telling us on how to move it. I said" What are you the Project Manager?..f*ck off, theres a difference between the person who is doing the labor and someone telling them how to do it?" ==================================== Gemini Sun, Capricorn Rising Aries Moon Gemini Mercury Venus Taurus Mars Cancer IP: Logged |
FruityLlama Knowflake Posts: 1050 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted August 24, 2016 07:28 AM
I am really bad at fighting. Usually the words get stuck in my throat unless I've thought about what I will say before. Taurus sun/moon/merc Can ASC My boyfriend fights with everyone at the moment and can be nasty. Leo sun/Gem moon/Virgo Merc Libra ASC IP: Logged | |