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PixieMG
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posted August 22, 2016 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieMG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, the Saturn/Mars/Antares conjunction is near and I've read that is not something good. The conjunction is in my 6th house (Sagi), square my natal Venus Virgo in the 3rd. Should I be worried? I also have TR Pluto conjunct natal Mars in the 7th, TR Neptune opposite natal Venus, TR Sun (3rd) square natal Saturn (6th).
On the bright side, TR Jupiter(3rd) trine natal Moon (8th) and sextile natal Sun (2nd) and TR Moon (12th) trine natal Moon and sextile natal Sun.

Thanks in advance, feel free to add your own aspects.

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posted August 22, 2016 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where will the September 1 eclipse (9'21' Virgo) hit your chart?

Next Weds is part of the span of time when we'll already feel the eclipse and see eclipse events happening.

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posted August 22, 2016 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's going to affect everybody on planet earth, but worrying isn't going to help. We need to be strong and carry forth only the energies we know are going.to.really help.us in the future.

Its all unfolding according to our highest good... I say that as a person, not an astrologer... I really do believe that it is going to be ok..

This conjunction is likely to bring things to a head and there will be no turning back... Whatever is happening at that time will likely have serious implications, weight and portent. We are carving out a serious future right now.

Antares isn't necessarily a bad thing... but there is the risk of violence, there is the risk of anger, pain, subterfuge. All of these are very real, and they all seem to me to stem from the illusion that we are separate from one another. The evolutionary astrologers say that there are two directions... towards source and away from source. I think that's nearly right, but I like Buddha's way of saying it better.

The illusion of separation is an ILLUSION... not a reality.

If we can center in the fact that we are all one, truly in it together... our compassion and understanding will overflow... peace will reign.

Even in abominable circumstances, if we remain free from the curse of hatred and blaming others, we can remain at peace. Even if our bodies are annihilated..

Whatever lessons are inherent in your birth chart, focus whole heartedly on those. When you heal yourself, you heal the world.

Working with the Pluto Polarity Point by sign and house, as well as the north Node, has been very useful for me, despite how dualistic it is.

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posted August 22, 2016 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yungang, thank you for the wonderful advice. I'm going to use it as this 9/1 eclipse comes up....(on my Mars (2) and my daughter's Sun (0)---I will be feeling it).

How do we work with the Pluto polarity point? That's new to me. Mine would be in my 4th house at 5 Aries, square my AC/DC, trine Neptune.

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posted August 23, 2016 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieMG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lucia!

The 9/1 eclipse is on my 3rd house Virgo. Both, transiting Sun and Moon will conj. natal Venus. TR Saturn will square my Venus too.

Just like you, I'm dealing with family issues, specifically with my sister (I shared part of the story here several times) I believe my Venus represents her and anything that aspects my Venus negatively freaks me out.

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posted August 23, 2016 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pixie, here's what i'm thinking/hoping---that it will actually be good. That we'll have important and necessary breakthroughs in the areas getting hit.

I suspect you're right that it will be about your sister....maybe things will transform in a surprising way.

Although, this morning I just had a breakdown. Sent my child off with my ex for the day and after they left I was crying like someone had died. And I realized I had no one to call.

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posted August 23, 2016 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, been thinking about that, too.

It conjuncts my Neptune-Node exact
also conjuncts my Mars (4 degrees) and ASC (2 degrees), sextiles my Pluto exact and squares my Jupiter (2 degrees).

And as if that wasn`t prominent enough
in my current Lunar Return, thta just started some days ago, on 17th august, I have


Mars 6°30 Sag
MC 8°05 Sag
Saturn 9°47 Sag

*sighs* of course it had to be falling onto an angle, right? and being most visible and elevated right there.

no clue what that means for me, but I guess I will know at the end of the return. though I am not particularly enthusiastic about this


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posted August 23, 2016 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:

Working with the Pluto Polarity Point by sign and house, as well as the north Node, has been very useful for me, despite how dualistic it is.

Actually now that you mention this

my PPP is on 9 Aries in 4th house
my NN is on 10 Sag in 1st house

not only THEY are trine each other, but of course that Pluto polarity point is trine the transiting Mars-Saturn-as well. Not sure that means anything though. lol

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posted August 23, 2016 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Actually now that you mention this

my PPP is on 9 Aries in 4th house
my NN is on 10 Sag in 1st house

not only THEY are trine each other, but of course that Pluto polarity point is trine the transiting Mars-Saturn-as well. Not sure that means anything though. lol


I think it might very well mean something.

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posted August 23, 2016 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lucia23:
Pixie, here's what i'hinking/hoping---that it will actually be good. That we'll have important and necessary breakthroughs in the areas getting hit.

I suspect you're right that it will be about your sister....maybe things will transform in a surprising way.

Although, this morning I just had a breakdown. Sent my child off with my ex for the day and after they left I was crying like someone had died. And I realized I had no one to call.


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posted August 23, 2016 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I think it might very well mean something.

not sure what, though.

BTW that transiting Mars-Saturn is conjunct P`s Mercury exact, square his Mars-Jupiter-Amor on 9-11 Virgo and his pVenus on 10 Pisces and Eros on 8 Pisces.

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posted August 24, 2016 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieMG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope you feel better Lucia, I'm sure these awful situations will be over soon and we will be able to move on with our lives. You have a child that needs you so focus on her and rest assure that things will improve

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posted August 24, 2016 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much!

This fun configuration is conjunct my Neptune, squaring my Mars.

Tightly squaring my daughter's Sun.

Conjunct my ex's Uranus-Jupiter.

I think it's an important time for us.

So everything that happens with the eclipse (hitting my daughter's Sun exact, my Mars at 2 degrees) will be squaring this Mars-Saturn-Antares. so yikes. I wonder what will happen.

I'm feeling stronger today.

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posted August 24, 2016 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quesyion:

Is Antares the same as Anteros?

Sorry, just figured out that it's not ha

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posted August 24, 2016 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Koniucha:
Quesyion:

Is Antares the same as Anteros?

Sorry, just figured out that it's not ha


I thought that too! All these dark celestial objects I'd never heard of.

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posted August 24, 2016 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Antares is the fixed star and Anteros is the asteroid.

I just looked at my natal for this transit. It's going to be in 12 house, conjunct Destinn by a degree. This Mars-Saturn loosely (4-5 deg) trines my Mars/Venus in Aries.
I don't know what it means but if something about future is going to manifest, I hope it is about my career. I'm so desperate to find a better job now... Venus rules my MC so fingers crossed.

My SO's sun is getting this conjunction full on though! It's opposed by Chiron in his natal chart so I have a feeling it's going to be something rather serious and painful... I'm not too excited about this transit for him :/

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posted August 24, 2016 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's going well so far. I love this conjunction! everything we do today is going to have long term effects.make the most of it! Start new patterns! This is gold...

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posted August 24, 2016 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
It's going to affect everybody on planet earth, but worrying isn't going to help. We need to be strong and carry forth only the energies we know are going.to.really help.us in the future.

Its all unfolding according to our highest good... I say that as a person, not an astrologer... I really do believe that it is going to be ok..

This conjunction is likely to bring things to a head and there will be no turning back... Whatever is happening at that time will likely have serious implications, weight and portent. We are carving out a serious future right now.

Antares isn't necessarily a bad thing... but there is the risk of violence, there is the risk of anger, pain, subterfuge. All of these are very real, and they all seem to me to stem from the illusion that we are separate from one another. The evolutionary astrologers say that there are two directions... towards source and away from source. I think that's nearly right, but I like Buddha's way of saying it better.

The illusion of separation is an ILLUSION... not a reality.

If we can center in the fact that we are all one, truly in it together... our compassion and understanding will overflow... peace will reign.

Even in abominable circumstances, if we remain free from the curse of hatred and blaming others, we can remain at peace. Even if our bodies are annihilated..

Whatever lessons are inherent in your birth chart, focus whole heartedly on those. When you heal yourself, you heal the world.

Working with the Pluto Polarity Point by sign and house, as well as the north Node, has been very useful for me, despite how dualistic it is.


Hi yungang,

I have a question about the pluto polarity point. What does it exactly tell me on my natal chart? My pluto is conjunct vesta in 11th house, and it's opposing transit Moon which is in the 5th house at the moment...

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posted August 24, 2016 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll make a thread about it soon. In the meantime, here is a link:
http://realitysandwich.com/160509/evolutionary_astrology/

To be honest though, I am not an evolutionary astrologer. I'm a holistic astrologer, and I am still exploring this method, to see what it can offer. So far it's been useful and fruitful but I'm still learning about it. So just to say... I can't entirely endorse it.

Or if I do then I'll say that we shouldn't abandon or discredit our natal Pluto position, as we did incarnate to experience those desires. But they make some very cool, interesting points.

Still I think the evolutionary astrologers are a bit hard on Scorpio and Pluto. I prefer holistic astrology, which doesn't work so much with either/or and duality, but seeks harmony and integration and acceptance of that which is. I have a nonlinear perspective on life, and astrology... although time looks like it's going forward I don't really think it does that, per se. And so I find the concept of linear evolution a little problematic.

Still, holism accepts that linearity exists! We learn, we grow, we evolve. These are realities... But not ultimate realities.

I'm rambling <

"For now here's a link" indeed.. haha...

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posted August 24, 2016 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When something activates the PPP by transit, I imagine you have an opportunity for growth and liberation, according to the transiting body or point. In the 5th, that growth is coming through immediate personal celebratory creative things with which you identify... the Moon... maybe a woman or an intuition or a felt bodily sense of well being, of excitement, of creativity. Does that resonate for you right now?

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posted August 25, 2016 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
When something activates the PPP by transit, I imagine you have an opportunity for growth and liberation, according to the transiting body or point. In the 5th, that growth is coming through immediate personal celebratory creative things with which you identify... the Moon... maybe a woman or an intuition or a felt bodily sense of well being, of excitement, of creativity. Does that resonate for you right now?

Hey yungang!

I've never heard of PPP so this is an interesting concept. Being at an opposing point, I wonder why it does not mean the opposite of evolving..?

Opportunity for growth and liberation - it sounds so nice but I'm having such a down time in my life right now.. Major depression and loads of family and financial issue.... I think the Saturn is effecting me more. The transit Saturn/Mars is in 12th house and it's actually only 5-6 deg away from my Asc too so it's been harsh for me.. I'm so depressed that I can't think of anything positive... I'm starting to wonder why I even try so hard to fight back. I wanna quit everything...

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posted August 25, 2016 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Give yourself a moment of surrender. Carve out a space in the day to completely give up. It's actually good for you. Then return with renewed vigour and clarity regarding that which truly requires your energy, how much, and applied in which way..

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posted August 25, 2016 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Give yourself a moment of surrender. Carve out a space in the day to completely give up. It's actually good for you. Then return with renewed vigour and clarity regarding that which truly requires your energy, how much, and applied in which way..

Thank you so much for your encouraging words, yungang! It's been exhausting and feeling like the bad is never ending. I will take your advice and gonna start it today!

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