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next to neptune
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posted August 26, 2016 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It can be placements, houses, aspects, signs, or combination of the above, or something else really bad. What's your opinion on this lol?

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posted August 26, 2016 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpiogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
It can be placements, houses, aspects, signs, or combination of the above, or something else really bad. What's your opinion on this lol?

When I see a lot of 12th house in a chart I can't help but wonder how they're dealing with it.

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mereiposa
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posted August 26, 2016 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not super experienced at reading charts, but the worst I have seen so far is a Mars Pluto Uranus conjunction opposite Saturn in a man's chart. He was awesome at the beginning- every woman's dream! Then, he couldn't hold it together anymore.

He showed himself to be the most controlling, verbally abusive narcissistic person I've met thus far. I dated him for six months. Yay me. When he showed his true colors, I exited gracefully and quickly.

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posted August 26, 2016 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeholdAstarte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think when Pluto is conjunct personal planets and or angular that themes of struggle, trauma, loneliness, intense experiences and such can make difficult experiences but also, because of its transformative qualities it submerges you in the darkness so the brighter your light can shine, as to say Scorpio/Pluto is the pheonix as its best.

Saturn also !! I've noticed Saturn conjunctions, particularly to the moon/Venus with people that I know who were abandoned, fostered, or had very cold/harsh parents, there's just some sort of lack, whether it's materially or emotionally, the entire expression is retrained and rigid.

2 ladies that I know have Saturn conjunct their moons and both have an element of struggle in it, especially financially and their homes/family. One has Pluto conjunct Saturn plus moon and she had very abusive upbringing / experiences, her mom would physically abuse her a lot and she was sexually abused, when she was younger but also when she was older too, she's so sexual and aggressive herself, she was a Gemini sun conjunct Mars and just seemed to get herself in the craziest situations/drama. Another girl I'm close to has her moon conjunct Saturn and Uranus and she lives a more reckless life, she use to prositute, strip, lives in a trailer and is a midwife that delivers babies and does abortions.

I know several people with personalized plutos/Mars and have had close family deaths and abuse. One had her Mars/Pluto in the 1st with a wide opposition to her moon and her mom died at a pretty young age. It's crazy cause that was the only tension in her entire chart other than her Mars/Pluto conjunction and Venus/Neptune conjunction.

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posted August 27, 2016 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by scorpiogirl:
When I see a lot of 12th house in a chart I can't help but wonder how they're dealing with it.

It's pretty awesome. Thank you lol.

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About the topic, it depends. I don't know if there's any real answer to that. I remember some of iQ's threads that he wrote about how certain combination + transits that could bring about some serious violence. I'll try to see if I could find them. I thought they were quite interesting.

I personally haven't seen anything that I'd call "bad" (I'm not experienced with western astrology, but quite experienced with chinese astrology - I more or less subscribe to the idea that nothing is that "good" or that "bad", it depends on how a person plays the cards they're dealt). "Harsh" aspects/combination...etc... may very well be a person's greatest asset.

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posted August 27, 2016 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, losing your mom at childhood must be really awful, but then at least you got the rest of your life to recover, and it's not your fault if something happens to your mom... and also in general people with violent relationships is something they can grow from and learn how to deal with.

But what about people who seem to be born extremely UNlucky and keep running into problems? Like people who has to struggle EVERY day with others, or just feels miserable all the time? (this is practically my life lol)

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posted August 27, 2016 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpiogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 12muddy:
[B] It's pretty awesome. Thank you lol.

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Thank you?

Lol. Ok.

I have a lot of 12th house myself so I'm not a stranger to the topic of it. No need for the "thank you lol" part.

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posted August 27, 2016 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Why? It's a serious thank you. A little warmth from one 12th house to another?

I couldn't help it, I giggled a little, coz most of the 12th house interpretations are pretty bad. When I first read it I was like "Oh rofl this is pretty bad".

If you take offense, well *shrug*. I can see how that "thank you lol" can be seen as something negative, but heh I assure you it wasn't meant to be.

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posted August 27, 2016 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:

But what about people who seem to be born extremely UNlucky and keep running into problems? Like people who has to struggle EVERY day with others, or just feels miserable all the time? (this is practically my life lol) [/B]


I have two t-squares. 10th house opposite 4th, square 7th. I am very unlucky. Absolutely nothing is easy for me, I have to try a hundred times before I get it right. I cannot say that my life is frustrating


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posted August 27, 2016 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Isa:
I have two t-squares. 10th house opposite 4th, square 7th. I am very unlucky. Absolutely nothing is easy for me, I have to try a hundred times before I get it right. I cannot say that my life is frustrating


You can NOT say your life is frustrating? :O

Haha I got almost the same... several T-squares involving 10th house, 4th house but also 6th house. I think the 6th house is more problematic than the 7th, cause the 6th is about everyday life and your health.

And on top of that - scorpio venus here. I've never had a nice relationship that was just well-functioning.

The only things that keeps me going is actually my friends, and when I'm out somewhere, that has nothing to do with jobs, home, problems, responsibilities and stuff like that.

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Ayelet
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posted August 27, 2016 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen a chart with no harmonious aspects whatsoever..!

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Isa
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posted August 27, 2016 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Next to Neptune,
Sorry! I meant I CAN SAY my life is frustrating! Definetly.
We have similar charts I have moon and Mercury (retrograde) in the 6th house. Late degrees, conjunct the DSC. I also have Venus in scorpio but its in the 8th house conjunct pluto and it receives a trine from jupiter and Mercury, so its not that bad. But the rest... Sadness heheh

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posted August 27, 2016 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know someone who has a chart full of ease. A lot of trines and a stellium of Sun, Moon, Mercury in Cancer. He has all of these astrological gifts!

And yet, he is a mess. He is so intelligent, has three degrees, extremely intuitive and wonderful with people, charisma... he does not work. He suffers from depression and cannot control his weight. He is blessed with inheritances that continue to come throughout his life, and he blows every single one of them. Big inheritances, too. They are gone within months.

So charts are potential. I completely understand how the people with all the tension and challenges in their charts overcome it all and make something beautiful with it.

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posted August 27, 2016 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Isa:
Next to Neptune,
Sorry! I meant I CAN SAY my life is frustrating! Definetly.
We have similar charts I have moon and Mercury (retrograde) in the 6th house. Late degrees, conjunct the DSC. I also have Venus in scorpio but its in the 8th house conjunct pluto and it receives a trine from jupiter and Mercury, so its not that bad. But the rest... Sadness heheh

I also got a retrograde mercury (in the 4th) Sun, moon, jupiter and venus are the more beneficial planets though, it's saturn, neptune, uranus and pluto (the outer planets) that can bring challenges.

I don't know about mercury actually:P

Our scorpio venus is very similar then! Mine also only receives good aspects, which helps a little (trine jupiter, sextile saturn, uranus and neptune)

But what is your aspects from the outer planets saturn, neptune and uranus?

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posted August 27, 2016 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunarRose     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mereiposa:
I'm not super experienced at reading charts, but the worst I have seen so far is a Mars Pluto Uranus conjunction opposite Saturn in a man's chart. He was awesome at the beginning- every woman's dream! Then, he couldn't hold it together anymore.

He showed himself to be the most controlling, verbally abusive narcissistic person I've met thus far. I dated him for six months. Yay me. When he showed his true colors, I exited gracefully and quickly.



Do you remember what his Sun, Moon, and Asc were?

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posted August 27, 2016 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Next to Neptune,
Saturn, Uranus and Neptune conjunct in the first degrees of my 10th house. My career and education are a mess.

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Astro keen
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posted August 27, 2016 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I have the maximum no of possible squares.

VENUS in Scorpio (which is nice) conjunct SATURN !

URANUS (in 12th) square SUN/NEPTUNE

VENUS/SATURN square MOON

These defeat anything that seems to have potential.

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posted August 27, 2016 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Isa:
Next to Neptune,
Saturn, Uranus and Neptune conjunct in the first degrees of my 10th house. My career and education are a mess.

Saturn is home in the 10th house, so that is a very good house placement, the best for saturn to be in actually!

My moon is in the 10th house, the opposite house than the 4th, which would be the best for moon, as it is ruled by Cancer. And my Neptune got the same problem, it's in the 6th, which is really uncomfortable for neptune.... I feel uncomfortable like 99% of my time lol

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posted August 27, 2016 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
I think I have some of the worst placements!

VENUS in Scorpio (which is nice) conjunct SATURN !

URANUS (in 12th) square SUN/NEPTUNE

SATURN square MOON

These defeat anything that seems to have potential.


haha how can scorpio venus be nice?

But I agree that those are some difficult aspects, what's the ruler of your 12th house? and what house do you got your saturn, uranus and neptune in?

The ruler of my 6th house, which is kinda the worst house in my chart, is Sagittarius. So at least I take it with a sarcastic smile (sometimes) lol

and drink a lot of wine when I got the chance (and spend all my money on that as well)

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posted August 27, 2016 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vradec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars Opposite Pluto for sure. I have noticed it in a lot of killers' charts, but in general it's very powerful.

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posted August 27, 2016 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't Venus in Scorpio a smouldering hot Venus? That sounds pretty good to me. I have SUN in scorpio too, which I guess makes me doubly hot .

12th house cusp (very close to URANUS) is in Cancer - ruler Moon, which squares my SUN.

Also URANUS is opp CHIRON - so I have SUN square CHIRON

NEPTUNE in Libra on the cusp of 4th house while SUN in Scorpio, 4th house.

VENUS/SATURN also in 4th. So, it's the 4th house Scorpio getting clobbered.

Eek! I didn't quite realise till now how bad my chart was.

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posted August 27, 2016 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus,Mars and Pluto interacting brings some pretty interesting results.

I wouldnt say that it is the "worst", but my father has this and has once descrined his sexual impulses to my mother as overwhelming and consuming. Something he feels compelled to act on etc.

I dont know how true that is. Or whether he was just "weak". But Mars-Pluto people I have met are intense . Honestly though, yall should just ease it up a bit

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posted August 27, 2016 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A man's Mars square his Venus/Pluto/Sun conjunction. And it was squaring my Venus/ASC/Pluto conjunction.

This was my ex boyfriend. He seemed so awesome at first but then his true self showed. He was violent, a sociopathic narcissist, abusive, pathological liar, jealous, insecure, and manipulative.

I saw right thru the manipulation and pushed his buttons on purpose. I stuck around for the mindblowing sex. Bad idea. We got physical and I decided enough is enough before he kills me or..I kill him. Haven't seen him since.

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posted August 27, 2016 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Isn't Venus in Scorpio a smouldering hot Venus? That sounds pretty good to me. I have SUN in scorpio too, which I guess makes me doubly hot .

12th house cusp (very close to URANUS) is in Cancer - ruler Moon, which squares my SUN.

Also URANUS is opp CHIRON - so I have SUN square CHIRON

NEPTUNE in Libra on the cusp of 4th house while SUN in Scorpio, 4th house.

VENUS/SATURN also in 4th. So, it's the 4th house Scorpio getting clobbered.

Eek! I didn't quite realise till now how bad my chart was.


At least your not in the dangerzone of getting health issues from stress and mental illnesses - this is what I'm dealing with on a daily basis... not that I'm sick, but I get stressed out really easily, and I'm very sensitive towards all sorts of things.

What is your mars doing btw?

I can see that saturn in 4th house square moon could be though... so what about the ruler of your 4th house?

At least you got both sun and venus there as well, those are beneficial planets, so you should have a rich family life. I got MARS in the 4th house - its the WORST placement for mars there!

At least saturn is always improving itself throughout your life, so if you got a difficult family life or no family life at all, this will get better the older you get

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posted August 27, 2016 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars and Mercury in the 3rd in Libra. A rather reticent Mars.

Ruler of 4th is Mars! Now how would that play out?

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